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New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:24 am

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Pakistani entrepreneur launches airline in UAE
Flights to start from Ras Al Khaimah airport in May

Awan plans to launch flights from Ras Al Khaimah International Airport to Karachi and Lahore initially and then add destinations in India and other countries when it secures traffic rights.


"We have already acquired two Airbus A320s to start flights. Two Boeing 777-300s are expected to join the fleet when we plan to add more destinations, such as Mumbai after traffic rights are granted," Awan said.


Source: http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...r-launches-airline-in-uae-1.998630


And no, the 777-300 is NOT a TYPO. Where will they get the 777-300 from? If true, they might get it from SQ or EK?!


Any thoughts?

[Edited 2012-07-02 02:26:53]
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:29 am

I doubt the UAE government would allow it, given the markets they're craving to expand through their own airlines. Ie. EY and EK.
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:40 am

this release was dated in march and says to be running by MAY 2012? so where is it?

the website

http://www.mmaairline.com/
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:58 am

Website: "Welcome to MMA Airline - we make your journey safe, luxurious & affordable"

The fact that they mention "safe" there.. That should be a given!
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:09 am

A lot of things about this website screams that its fake.

-First of all theres a reservation tool where you can select Origin and Destination, its HUB Ras Al Khaimah isn't even in this list.

-It has a seating chart from an A320 with interior pictures from what looks like VX.

Im being a bit skeptical here but I just think this is someone with a bit of money that made their dream in a website.

I really can't see this materializing!
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:48 am

Quoting cipango (Reply 4):
Im being a bit skeptical here but I just think this is someone with a bit of money that made their dream in a website.

I really can't see this materializing!

From the website: Quote:

Announcement: First phase of aircraft testing complete, within a week flight schedule will be delivered End Quote

I guess this announcement is a few months old!
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:07 pm

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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:03 pm

Looks like it visits more destinations in Pakistan than PIA does!

Awesome.

Then there is this quote which probably is designed and written to instill fear in all major airlines in the area:
"Welcome aboard MMA Airlines, where you are prefab to reason similar an worthy impermanent and not just a passenger"

Oh Oh.. and this:
"Despite difficult times for the worldwide aviation industry, MMA Airline is steadily improving its product and services. Our strides in growth, development and transformation have placed their stamp on the past couple of months. The decision to enhance frequencies reinforces the airlines commitment to avail convenient and adequate services to our valued guests. Guests traveling on MMA Airline route network now will have more choices and flexibilities as a result of additional frequencies"

[Edited 2012-07-02 06:05:28]
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:20 pm

Isn't it a FSX virtual airline?
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:41 pm

The seating chart is from an A320 off of the old Northwest Airlines website.
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:59 pm

I can see a codeshare with "Family" Airlines in their future.  
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:41 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 8):
Isn't it a FSX virtual airline?

It's part of the MMA Group, who evidently do foreign exchange and heavy equipment rentals.
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:47 pm

They seem to have trouble deciding whether to call them selves MMA Airline or MMA Airlines... All those Airbus stock images aren't really impressing me..

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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:47 pm

If they already have two A320s, where are the photos of them? All of the photos they have were simply pulled off of the Airbus website (including a rendering of an A320neo -- ha!)

And look at their "reservations" page -- did anyone tell them they need slots to get into Heathrow???

Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 9):
The seating chart is from an A320 off of the old Northwest Airlines website.

With World Business Class nonetheless!

Quoting mayor (Reply 10):
I can see a codeshare with "Family" Airlines in their future.

  
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:58 pm

is it just me or the interior in the pic looks like B6 in the front of cabin right side?????????
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:03 pm

There's indeed more MMA stuff on the web.

http://www.mmabank.net/aboutus/management

Glad to have a graduate of the "University of Liver Pool" at the helm of this new airline  
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:04 pm

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 1):
I doubt the UAE government would allow it, given the markets they're craving to expand through their own airlines. Ie. EY and EK.

The UAE's official airline is EY, but that does not mean that other emirates cannot start their own airline. Each emirate operates independent except for the common areas under which they form the UAE.

Consider it like this: would the US federal government shut down an airline based in, say, Boston, just because there's another bigger airline operating in New York?
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:12 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 10):
I can see a codeshare with "Family" Airlines in their future.

I forgot about the "new" PanAm, too.........we've got the makings of a phantom alliance............
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:24 pm

Quoting Ferminios (Reply 15):
Glad to have a graduate of the "University of Liver Pool" at the helm of this new airline

I wonder if he did any post-graduate work at the University of Man Chester?  
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:00 pm

Their adress on the Google map is a deserted property without a building.   


These clowns are either fraudsters or 12 year old kids.
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:41 pm

"A 26-year-old Pakistani businessman from Abbottabad, Malek Naureed Awan, is set to launch an airline in the UAE."

Abbottabad....isn't that the town where Osama bin Laden's compound was located?

BTW this may not see the light of day, so lets just move on and check out the next post...
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:03 pm

Quoting Ferminios (Reply 15):

There's indeed more MMA stuff on the web.

http://www.mmabank.net/aboutus/management

Glad to have a graduate of the "University of Liver Pool" at the helm of this new airline  
Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 19):
These clowns are either fraudsters or 12 year old kids.


This smells bad.

The address given for "MMABank GT" here:

http://www.mmabank.net/aboutus/regulatorystatement

is in Switzerland. The Swiss Financial Markets Supervisory Authority FINMA publishes a list of authorised banks and securities dealers here:

http://www.finma.ch/institute/pdf_e/ebeh.pdf

Surprise surprise, "MMABank GT" isn't on it...but their website is offering to open accounts here:

http://www.mmabank.net/accounts/managedaccount



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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:11 pm

Wow, they really have a huge list of destinations. Rather difficult to just accomplish with just two A320's..
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:25 pm

Quoting faro (Reply 21):
The address given for "MMABank GT" here:

http://www.mmabank.net/aboutus/regulatorystatement

is in Switzerland. The Swiss Financial Markets Supervisory Authority FINMA publishes a list of authorised banks and securities dealers here:

It's being run from a senior's home!    http://www.alterszentrum-hottingen.ch/  

Edit: They also have a Facebook Page, which has 11000 likes, also gives a different address. At least we're seeing real people there!

: http://www.facebook.com/pages/MMA-Online-Forex-Trading/117055125026183

[Edited 2012-07-02 11:31:20]
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:26 pm

We are all laughing, but looking at the pictures published at facebook, I see that Mr. Malik Naureed Awan has enough money to invite a big part of the pakistani community of Dubai to celebrate his opening event at the Jumeira Beach, or the launching of his Forex Platform at the Burj al Arab. Mr. Awan is awarded as Pakistani Youngest Successful Businessman in 2010 in UAE, meaning that he is not only spending heritage money, but also generating something.

Having a look at his airline ambitions, I would not underestimate him. His customers do not care if it is an old or new A or B frame, they will be happy to have one more choice to fly cheap home. His service will not interfere with EK or EY, it will be more some sort of LCC for expat workers.

Even with his fake or real bank, located at the Zurich Electricity Plant (according to the map), he might impress some investors to give him funds for his airline.

Here you can see him in the cockpit of a plane, not sure if it is his one:

http://www.facebook.com/MmaGroup/photos
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:47 pm

Quoting faro (Reply 21):
This smells bad.

The address given for "MMABank GT" here:

http://www.mmabank.net/aboutus/regulatorystatement

is in Switzerland. The Swiss Financial Markets Supervisory Authority FINMA publishes a list of authorised banks and securities dealers here:

http://www.finma.ch/institute/pdf_e/ebeh.pdf

Surprise surprise, "MMABank GT" isn't on it...but their website is offering to open accounts here:

http://www.mmabank.net/accounts/managedaccount



Faro

They aren't registered as a company on the Zefix (Swiss register of companies) either. A big scam.
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:49 pm

Quoting FN1001 (Reply 24):
Even with his fake or real bank, located at the Zurich Electricity Plant (according to the map), he might impress some investors to give him funds for his airline.

According to article 46, paragraph 1, letter a of the Swiss Banking Law, unlicensed persons who accept public deposits or savings are liable for a maximum of 3 years imprisonment or a monetary fine:

http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/9/952.0.fr.pdf (french only)


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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting faro (Reply 26):
According to article 46, paragraph 1, letter a of the Swiss Banking Law, unlicensed persons who accept public deposits or savings are liable for a maximum of 3 years imprisonment or a monetary fine:

You are right Sir, but what you say applies to residents of Switzerland (legal entities or humans). I guess he only uses the image of Switzerland to simulate reliability for his investment plans.

His approach to the business might look strange for europeans, for that part of the world it might be normal. I remember not may years ago ads from eastern european airlines showing the Skyline of NY or the shape of a 747, well knowing that they fly only regional with accordant airplanes. The details must not match the reality, the idea is important  


Here a picture with one MMA Aircraft:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...5.77648.117055125026183&type=3
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:22 pm

Quoting FN1001 (Reply 27):
Here a picture with one MMA Aircraft:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...5.77648.117055125026183&type=3

If I am not mistaken, that airplane in the background sports the old PMUA livery. I doubt that UA would have given this new airline (if we can call it that) permission to use the "tulip" logo. Or did UA loose the trademark of that tulip by adopting the present "globe" logo?

Anyways, awfully strange.

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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:27 pm

Quoting FN1001 (Reply 27):
Quoting faro (Reply 26):
According to article 46, paragraph 1, letter a of the Swiss Banking Law, unlicensed persons who accept public deposits or savings are liable for a maximum of 3 years imprisonment or a monetary fine:

You are right Sir, but what you say applies to residents of Switzerland (legal entities or humans). I guess he only uses the image of Switzerland to simulate reliability for his investment plans.

That article applies to unlawful banking activities carried out on Swiss territory.

But that however matters little. Most other countries have similar legal provisions against unauthorised banking activities. If 'MMABank GT' deploys its activities outside of Switzerland, similar prohibitions in the host country apply, the difficulty for the bank being that it has to justify to banking regulators in that country why it wrongly proclaims itself a Swiss bank.


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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:00 pm

Don't want to offend anyone but, would you trust this crew? Specially the pilot...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...55125026183&type=3&theater

To me it sounds like a big scam, the site itself isn't working... And oh wait, this isn't a B737 or an A320 either...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...23328238059&type=3&theater
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:25 am

Here's a blast from the past.......




What Ever Happened To Family Airlines? (by Cedarjet Jul 6 1999 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=31472&searchid=31472&s=family+airlines#ID31472
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:58 am

Quoting 4tet (Reply 30):
Don't want to offend anyone but, would you trust this crew? Specially the pilot...

Don't under estimate him. He has a lot of hours. Only Tommy fared better than him in his class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=919IA_Lj0Ko
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:48 am

The Airline's facebook page (which has a massive 41 likes) has a profile picture of a LOT 787. And the A320 which is the cover photo has clearly had the livery photo-shopped on.

https://www.facebook.com/MMAAirline

Quoting 4tet (Reply 30):
Don't want to offend anyone but, would you trust this crew? Specially the pilot...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...eater

 
Quoting golfradio (Reply 32):
Don't under estimate him. He has a lot of hours. Only Tommy fared better than him in his class.

  
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:23 am

The other cabin pic seems to be from Wikipedia. The picture seemed familiar, and it was from this article indeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrowbody_aircraft

I am quite sure the entire airline is fake. The website doesn't work properly; many of the buttons lead to a 404 not found page.
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:33 am

These are tactics to fleece illiterate and gullible rural folks to join a fraudulant chit fund. They claim to be a big group with banking, airline in their portfoliio..... show their website (fake) to a senior village idiot who then "approves" the organization and urges fellow villagers to part with their hard earned money to invest in a chit fund...... and then boom.... suddenly there is no sign of MMA.

This is typical to the subcontinent.
 
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:30 am

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 35):
This is typical to the subcontinent.

I'm inclined to believe the same. This doesn't pass the sniff test.
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:38 am

This reminds me of the TVI Express scam. Except their airline (RY) actually started up...
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RE: New UAE Airline, Started By 26 Year Old!

Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:17 am

Is there seriously speculation that this might be real?

Guys, come on. The website is a carbon copy of the Avatar Airlines website.. and the Family one.. and the Las Vegas one.. I mean, really?!
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