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Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:43 am

I came across this website which has some great shots of the TWA Flight Center at JFK in 2012. Considering it's been inactive for quite a while, the terminal looks to be in immaculate condition. The article also talks about the current preservation efforts in addition to future development plans (potentially a hotel).

Hope you enjoy the photos!

http://newyork.untappedcities.com/20...-twa-flight-center-at-jfk-airport/
 
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:07 am

None of those areas he claims were off limits at the open house actually were  

Still, cool photos without a million other people in them, as all the photos from the open house have. I like both with and without people; the photos from the open house (including all the ones I took) give a sense of a vibrant and functional building, whereas photos like these can really give a better sense of the architecture itself.
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:17 pm

Last weekend I had an extended layover, courtesy of Delta, so I wondered over. It was locked up tight. It does look amazing though! Now to save the WorldPort.
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:35 pm

They should have found a way to keep the view of the ramp from the ginormous window in the Flight Center, to still give it that glorious aviation feel, but beggars can't be choosers. It is an immaculate structure and I wish I was around in its hay-day to experience it.
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:49 pm

Beautiful photos. They bring back memories of when I had REAL behind the scenes access to the building. My Dad was a TWA dispatcher for 36 years. In those pre-security days, every time we flew non-rev out of JFK (or 'New York International -Idlewild' as it was known when the terminal was new) we enterd the building from the staff parking lot behind the ticketing lobby, next to the ramp at 'Flight Wing 2'. I remember all of the 'back of the house' operations areas. While Dad chatted with the pilots, I watched the flight crew and cabin attendants (TWA 'Hostesses') go through their pre-flight check-in. Several times, we boarded our flight using the crew stairs from the ramp, before the passengers (.....although I usually prefered walking through the long carpeted tubes to the departure gates.)

The Flight Center looks strange without any peope. But I am old enough to rember having a private tour before the building officially opened in spring of 1962. There were no people around then either. It was very quiet and our footsteps echoed. I still recall the smell of fresh concrete, new carpets and paint.
 
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:23 pm

One of my favorites, too. Had an opportunity to utilize the whole terminal along with its functioning piers just before TWA shut down. The long tubes were like smething of science fiction.

Quoting TL925 (Thread starter):
(potentially a hotel).

I can't see how a hotel can be built into this structure without totally compromising the architectural open space. Unless it comes as a new structure, multistory, outside of the building.

Quoting FI642 (Reply 2):
Now to save the WorldPort.

I'm with you!

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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:31 pm

Great pictures - thanks for posting the link.
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:14 pm

Quoting rampart (Reply 5):
I can't see how a hotel can be built into this structure without totally compromising the architectural open space. Unless it comes as a new structure, multistory, outside of the building.

I understand one plan that has been discussed is to put a hotel structure between the Flight Center and the new jetBlue terminal. It would have to be low so as not to overpower the TWA building. It would also eliminate the view from the big windows that used to look out on the ramp. It is bad enought that the scenery has already been limited to jetBlue's arrival and departure roadways.
 
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:45 pm

I thought the place was now used by B6 or am I missing something?
 
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:37 pm

Quoting BA174 (Reply 8):

The new T5 is behind the old TWA terminal. The original flight wings were demolished but the concrete tubes remain connecting the two structures. Originally the plan was to use the old building as a secondary check-in area for jetBlue flights but the idea proved to be impractical. I believe B6 may still have rights to use the TWA terminal for something but for now nothing is in the works.
 
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting nomadic (Reply 9):
I believe B6 may still have rights to use the TWA terminal for something but for now nothing is in the works.

There was still fresh construction going on during the open house (not on that day, but it looked like there was still equipment etc. in active use), so it seems they're doing something, or planning to. Many areas of the terminal seemed to have active work going on.
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:20 pm

Having saved the TW terminal, certainly the PA terminal can be saved. I have been told that it is still structurally sound (albeit the roof leaks), and could be restored and used as a great centrepiece for DL. It would require a lot of work, but it could and CAN be done.
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RE: Behind The Scenes At The TWA Flight Center At JFK

Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Quoting nomadic (Reply 9):
Originally the plan was to use the old building as a secondary check-in area for jetBlue flights but the idea proved to be impractical.

Talking to some folks during the Open House last October, part of the problem was B6 would have to leave the place pretty much as it is - which meant no signage, or B6-themed colors for carpeting, walls, etc. They didn't want passengers to enter a terminal with TWA colors and logos, rather than B6.

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 1):
None of those areas he claims were off limits at the open house actually were

The only place shown that was supposed to be off limits was the Duty Free shop - a bunch of us went in through an open doorway, saw that and went down to the baggage claim area. After I had taken a bunch of photos, someone from Port came running in, chased us out, and locked the door.
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