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US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:45 am

Has there been any talk of new international routes to come for USAirways in the not so distant future? From what I know (and I'll admit it's not concrete by any means) they're supposed to be taking delivery of more 333's starting next year. However, I know the 762's are supposed to be retired in the next 5-7 years, which coincides with them taking delivery of A350's. And secondly, will a merger with AA radically change any plans for international expansion US might have in the place? Just curious what you guys think and also wondering if anyone has heard of some "new" news on this front?

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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:47 am

IF a merger of AA and US dooes happen this can only be good for CLT and PHL. International flights would only increase especially to Brazil. European flights could also be expanded with some AA 777 to LHR and allowing for A330 to other destinations. The real gains for this merger is the Charlotte hub.
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:55 pm

The one thing I'm hoping for is for a widebody to take over the PHL-AMS route.
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:11 pm

I don't see a combination with AA doing much for international destinations at CLT, other than moving from LGW to LHR. AA hubs are not going to feed into US' ones, but the other way around. Maybe some OW alliance partners would consider service to CLT, but only to a small degree. It is a good hub for US, but just not a big enough O&D market.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:23 pm

Any of AA's current International routes is the best guess I could come up with  
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:39 pm

There has been strong talk of PHL-IST once more A330's are delivered .
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:44 pm

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 2):

The plan is to replace all current 767 flights to A330 and all 757 flying to 767 once more A330's are delivered beginning 2013 . 757'swill no longer be flying to Europe . It will be all wide body service across the pond.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:46 pm

Currently, what is US' transatlantic fleet? Im referring to# of aircraft
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:50 pm

There is so much talk about them starting a PHX-NRT route. Someone told me that once they get more A330s that will happen.
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:56 pm

Quoting etops1 (Reply 6):
The plan is to replace all current 767 flights to A330 and all 757 flying to 767 once more A330's are delivered beginning 2013 . 757'swill no longer be flying to Europe . It will be all wide body service across the pond.

What about updating the interiors of the 762s?
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:28 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):

I think that is a strong possibility, but I feel like if they would launch Asia they would do it via PHL with the A332. (especially since PHX doesn't have any A330 service, so it would be reactively difficult if there is a tech problem with the plane)
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:04 pm

If US and TK were to strengthen ties, then PHL-IST could make a lot of sense. From Charlotte, I wonder if US would consider some shorter South American routes like Caracas, Cali, and Bogata. Maybe also CLT-LIM.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:05 pm

If there is an US/AA merger..

CLT -MAD would go daily
CLT-LHR 2(1 flight by BA)
CLT-Berlin( either on AB or US/AA)
Hopefully the mergered airline will bring some 777 down
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:39 pm

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 12):
CLT-Berlin( either on AB or US/AA)

It'd have to be AA, and even then I doubt that very very much. All of the financial traffic is to Frankfurt. Berlin is still largely a VFR destination.
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:48 pm

I wonder if US will launch PHL to MEX nonstop. I remember reading on their inflight magazine back in summer of 2003 that US was going to launch that route, but it never happened.
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:50 pm

From PHL, I have heard..

PHL-IST
PHL-CAI
2nd daily PHL-TLV

There isn't really much to expand out of CLT, the largest European gaps are AMS, ZRH, and MAN, AMS is highly unlikely, even though I've heard AMS is courting CLT service. ZRH is also unlikely. MAN has the greatest chance.

I have heard several rumors (seriously) about CLT-TLV. (let the talk of ATL-TLV was a failure so CLT will be too begin).

CLT-LIM will probably happen eventually.
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:04 pm

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 2):
The one thing I'm hoping for is for a widebody to take over the PHL-AMS route

B767-200ER is planned for Summer 2013 flights already as PHL-AMS-PHL . Most of 757 ETOPS are gone by this time .
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:40 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 15):

LH is was considering dusseldorf but that would never happen
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:25 pm

Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 10):
I think that is a strong possibility, but I feel like if they would launch Asia they would do it via PHL with the A332. (especially since PHX doesn't have any A330 service, so it would be reactively difficult if there is a tech problem with the plane)

I think an A330 PHX-Asia would take a lot of restrictions.

A PHX-PDX-NRT and PHX-PDX-PEK would be well within range.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:38 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):
There is so much talk about them starting a PHX-NRT route.

$22M is the going rate.......

 
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:41 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 15):

You don't no it would be a failure until u try it
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:44 pm

Quoting vlad1971 (Reply 16):
Most of 757 ETOPS are gone by this time .

What is happening to the 757? Is US just getting rid of them or re-deploying them? I know they're old.

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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:20 pm

Quoting etops1 (Reply 6):
It will be all wide body service across the pond.

As it rightfully should be. I would hate sitting in a 757 for 7 hours

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 18):
I think an A330 PHX-Asia would take a lot of restrictions.

How so? It's been done previously albeit with a stop in HNL (point being there could be a good market here. Lots of Asians in Phoenix, believe it or not.)

Quoting point2point (Reply 19):
$22M is the going rate.......

Are you joking, or for what?
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 7):
Currently, what is US' transatlantic fleet? Im referring to# of aircraft

15 Intl. 757s
10 767s
16 A330s (9 A333 and 7 A332) with 8 more A332s to be delivered.
Add the 22 A350s on order.

A total of 41 aircraft are active at this time with the 8 other A330s to enter service just before the A350s do.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 18):
A PHX-PDX-NRT and PHX-PDX-PEK would be well within range.

I hope US does start Asia service soon...well, Far East (TLV is in Asia)...I know they wanted to take some A340s but dropped plans after the oil spike in 2008. Couldn't they take a couple uaed but fairly new A340s for PHL-PEK/NRT/PVG?
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:14 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 22):
Are you joking, or for what?

It's suppose to be a joke (my bad, huh?) ..... DEN recently gave UA a bunch of breaks, rebates (whatever it is they are called) to the tune of UA saving about $22M from the airport. The next day ...... UA announces it will fly its 787s DEN-NRT nonstop beginning about 4/13 - or somewhere thereabouts. Curious thing is though, from what I understand, the DEN airport and business community had about $4-$5M already in the pot as incentives (most aimed at NH) to start the DEN-NRT nonstop, but UA didn't touch any of that money for this. Makes one wonder, eh?

That's what I was referring to ...... and btw ...... I also wonder if this $22M is the highest amount paid as incentive (I think that we could call the $22M that) for a nonstop route?

I remember a thread here on that as well.

So now......



Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):

There is so much talk about them starting a PHX-NRT
Quoting point2point (Reply 19):
$22M is the going rate.......

 

[Edited 2012-07-07 13:16:18]
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:38 pm

There were rumours of PHL -GLA going from summer only to year round. Often that route carries more than the more established CO to EWR.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:53 pm

I think CLT-MAN will happen quite soon. There's been a lot of rumors and also it was planned for 2011 but then shelved.

When more A330's arrive I think it will begin.
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:21 am

Quoting cipango (Reply 26):

I think ur right I've been following that rumor mill and I live in CLT so it epwould be awesome.
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:30 am

Quoting by738 (Reply 25):
There were rumours of PHL -GLA going from summer only to year round. Often that route carries more than the more established CO to EWR.

That would be cool, I flew US to GLA in June and highly enjoyed the flight. I wasn't sure how a B757 would be on a trans Atlantic flight, but I found it to be just fine. It's good to see US having success with their Scotland service.
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:46 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 24):

Thanks for clearing it up! thanks much!

I have a feeling that PHX could probably offer similar incentives.
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:50 am

Agreed with all comments referring to the 757 on Trans-Atlantic..that would just suck for the passengers and i think airlines are looking pathetic when those birds land at Global airports..i understand its a financial thing so dont get on me for that comment please =) (side note: the 757 is a beautiful bird and my favorite domestically, nothing except maybe a 777 puts you in your seat on takeoff like they do). Im sure ill get burned for this one, but i think USAIRWAYS should remain the surviving carrier if this 'hypothetical' merger everyone is so excited about actually gets done. No disrespect to any AA staff but its a tired old name and lately (last 10 years) commands little of the same respect it once did. On the other hand the little major in the US industry USAIRWAYS isnt so little anymore and has really spread its wings. Ive always had a very professional experience with them, no bullshit from A-B and in between. call me crazy but while everyone assumes US would be a goner im not so sure...
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:15 am

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 12):
CLT-LHR 2(1 flight by BA)

If the ATI carries over then US/AA & BA act as one so it is porbably not worth BA to operate 1x daily when US can easily handle both

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 12):
CLT-Berlin( either on AB or US/AA)

Doubtful, Berlin is a small market that few US cities can sustain service.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 22):
As it rightfully should be. I would hate sitting in a 757 for 7 hours

Everyone has their opinions but I really don't understand why some people make it sound like flying a 757 US-Europe is like flying a Dash-8 or something. But I am getting off topic.


It would be nice to see a 2nd daily PHL-TLV.
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:22 am

Now would be the time to pick up used A340-500s for services to Asia.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:23 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 23):
10 767s
16 A330s (9 A333 and 7 A332) with 8 more A332s to be delivered.

That's an amazingly puny widebody fleet when compared to the other legacies, and that's even before the recent DAL/NWA, UAL/CAL mergers. Why is that?
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:32 am

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 32):
Now would be the time to pick up used A340-500s for services to Asia.

Most current A345 don't want the plane, US is not going to take them either. They just burn too much fuel. You know its bad when an airline (TAM) decides to park the plane and wait out its lease rather than trying to find a route to put it on.

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 33):
That's an amazingly puny widebody fleet when compared to the other legacies, and that's even before the recent DAL/NWA, UAL/CAL mergers. Why is that?

US has always been the smallest legacy carrier. It grew from a regional carrier that acquired mostly other regional carriers that had little to no intercontinental service.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:43 am

Quoting poLOT (Reply 34):

US has always been the smallest legacy carrier. It grew from a regional carrier that acquired mostly other regional carriers that had little to no intercontinental service.

US didn't even get their first widebody until they merged with Piedmont and inherited their B767-200ERs. It was 2000 before the A330-300s started showing up.

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 33):
That's an amazingly puny widebody fleet when compared to the other legacies, and that's even before the recent DAL/NWA, UAL/CAL mergers. Why is that?
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:57 am

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 30):
Agreed with all comments referring to the 757 on Trans-Atlantic..that would just suck for the passengers

No disrespect to any AA staff but its a tired old name and lately (last 10 years) commands little of the same respect it once did....

Flying a 757 TATL isn't, in my experience, any better or worse than flying a widebody. The seats are the same size, so what's the big deal? At least there's no middle section to get stuck in, and quite a bit less of a line up boarding and deplaning. Really don't understand the obsessive dislike of 757 TATL service on here... it's not like any of you are running laps on a 777.

US up until VERY recently had pretty much the worst reputation (and ratings) of any USA carrier. Although I've been impressed with their customer service recently (and they've actually been better to me than post-merger UA, where I was a PMCO elite), their birds are really unimpressive -- the ones that aren't old and crumbling apart (heaven forbid you're stuck on a DH2 express flight) have no IFE in coach and pretty bare-bones service. They've only recently started to up their game in J class. On top of that, having been pieced together merger by merger out of regionals, they face two problems: they lack the spread and scope of, say, AA, and they have a lot of enmity in communities that lost their service when US came to town buying up the local carrier.

It's very easy for someone young and relatively new to the game to think of AA as washed-up and US as a hot up-and-comer, but even in its decline, AA has held on to arguably the most prestigious and generous FF/elite program, which has given them a massive reserve of goodwill from high-value customers and corporations. AA is iconic, and I don't think there would be much question as to which name to take in a merger.
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:18 am

Quoting nycdave (Reply 36):
It's very easy for someone young and relatively new to the game to think of AA as washed-up and US as a hot up-and-comer,

I may not have 40 years but i have been with six airlines and have 16 years industry experience...but im not defending myself...we all have our experience and opinions and there are many more with experience exceeding mine. I am however not new to the game. I caught my first whiff of jetfuel as a 6 year old on the AirFlorida ramp at BTV and have passionately followed the industry ever since...  
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:19 am

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 31):
Everyone has their opinions but I really don't understand why some people make it sound like flying a 757 US-Europe is like flying a Dash-8 or something. But I am getting off topic.

I like flying them cross-country or from LAX-MSP or PHX-MSP etc but longer than 5 hours seems a little too much.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 31):
US seems to have maxed out it's utlilzation of TA aircraft (summer period) with the CLT additions.

What are the international facilities like at CLT? Are they anything like DTW or ATL?

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 32):
Now would be the time to pick up used A340-500s for services to Asia.

From where? Who is selling these?

(anybody got a mockup of a A340 in US livery? That'd be beautiful to see!)
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:21 am

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 30):
Agreed with all comments referring to the 757 on Trans-Atlantic..that would just suck for the passengers and i think airlines are looking pathetic when those birds land at Global airports

People seem to forget that in the glory days of airline service in the 60's passengers were being flown across the Atlantic on narrow-body 707's and DC-8's, so narrow-body TATL service isn't exactly a new concept, nor does it mean sub-par service. I do concede that wide-bodies are more comfortable and offer more space for premium amenities, and question the logic of using them on TATL flights to major airports such as LHR where there is premium demand, but it's not like 757's are the most awful flying experience one can have on a TATL flight, they're great at opening up secondary European airports for TATL service.

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 30):
if this 'hypothetical' merger everyone is so excited about actually gets done

I think the cheerleaders for the merger are going to be very disappointed if it goes through unless they actually do realize there will be an overall net reduction in flying between the two carriers, lay-offs, and "right-sizing" of all hubs except ORD, JFK, and MIA.

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 30):
call me crazy but while everyone assumes US would be a goner im not so sure...

Parker has already said that if the two carriers merged, the surviving name would be American and headquarters would be in DFW.

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 35):
It was 2000 before the A330-300s started showing up.

I know I'm nit-picking, but the A333's started arriving in 1999, PHL-CDG was it's first flight.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:56 am

Could we see the A350's on PHL (possibly CLT if they have the range) to Asia once they come online?

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Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:59 am

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 40):
Could we see the A350's on PHL (possibly CLT if they have the range) to Asia once they come online?

I think we can see them at all 3 (CLT PHL and PHX) going international with the 350s given the whole east-west-issue is gone by then.
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:13 am

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 33):

Well US didn't really get wide-bodies until a few years ago because they just weren't that important as they are now. Until 9/11 domestic service was were all the money was at. US carriers focused much more on domestic service, and US was the crown jewel for domestic service (routemap at least) Once more countries started to sign open skies agreements; the viability of opening long haul routes improved.
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Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:02 am

Quoting poLOT (Reply 34):
Most current A345 don't want the plane, US is not going to take them either. They just burn too much fuel. You know its bad when an airline (TAM) decides to park the plane and wait out its lease rather than trying to find a route to put it on.
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 38):
From where? Who is selling these?

Thai Airways has apparenbtly also parked it's 345's ... Personally I think it's very sad, such a beauty
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:31 am

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 30):
Agreed with all comments referring to the 757 on Trans-Atlantic..that would just suck for the passengers and i think airlines are looking pathetic when those birds land at Global airports..i understand its a financial thing so dont get on me for that comment please =)

A couple thoughts on the 757 across the Atlantic:

1) The length of an Atlantic crossing isn't a lot longer than an East to West Coast flight with a good headwind - I've done PHL-DUB and PHL-SFO with only a few minutes' difference in air time with headwinds going west and tailwinds going east, especially in the winter. With only a few exceptions, most TATL 757s are going to the Iberian peninsula, France, the Low Countries, Ireland and the UK - e.g., within an hour's flight of the Atlantic. It's not like they're going deep into Europe to places like FCO or ATH on 10 hour flights.

2) The people who notice/care about the narrowbody vs. widebody issue seem to be a vocal minority. The widebodies do give more room to do a bigger business/first class product and have larger galleys and potentially more restrooms per passenger, but in general the coach cabins are pretty similar and the 757 doesn't let an airline do, say, a 2-5-2 Y configuration which buries people deep in a row and doesn't let some of them get out easily. I've crossed the Atlantic at least 30 times in the 757, and I've never booked away from it to avoid the on board configuration - the advantage in the nonstop has been the selling factor.

3) The 757 has opened more markets to nonstop service from the eastern US, and likely has preserved service in others. In the case of US (the airline), a market such as PHL-LIS might not exist without it, AF/DL might have dropped PHL-CDG rather than try to compete with the US A332, PIT-CDG (DL) might not exist, and there might be less frequency on BOS-LHR/CDG (AA) without the ability to use an aircraft more in line with demand. And let's not forget the service that CO built out of EWR to smaller European markets either.

US wasn't the first to fly the 757 across the pond, and they are hardly the only ones who do. The benefits outweigh the costs, or else the market would have killed off the concept.

I don't understand comments such as "i think airlines are looking pathetic when those birds land at Global airports" - very few people are judging the external appearance of aircraft, and certainly not enough people to affect the profitability of routes. Is BA embarrassed to fly the A318 on LCY-JFK? It sure is small besides a 747 or A380, but they do it because it fills a market need, presumably profitably.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:29 am

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 32):

I have a friend who works at Athens airport and he told me that the flights from PHL-ATH-PHL were close to 90% fullness and in some cases 100%, but I read US airways will drop the route next September. In another article I read that US airways will use the A332 when they get more planes. If you go to US airways homepage you can booke a flight from PHL-ATH for may 2013 but that was the case with United last year but where is United this year? United said they drop the route temporarily until there will be stability in Greece and they will be back with the 787. The results with the route of Delta airlines ATL-ATH-ATL were quite good and Delta drop it, I have not read anything about it.
 
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:13 am

Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 10):

FWIW with the DCA/LGA slot swap I believe DL is giving US a NRT slot.
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:15 pm

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 46):
FWIW with the DCA/LGA slot swap I believe DL is giving US a NRT slot.

That was part of the first deal, but in the one that was ultimately approved US only got traffic rights to GRU starting in 2015.

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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:13 pm

Quoting phlwok (Reply 44):

1) The length of an Atlantic crossing isn't a lot longer than an East to West Coast flight with a good headwind -

Which is why if I'm flying cost-to-coast I choose a widebody.

Quoting phlwok (Reply 44):
Is BA embarrassed to fly the A318 on LCY-JFK?

That service doesn't use normal 318 seats, remember. They're lie-flat seats.

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 43):
Thai Airways has apparenbtly also parked it's 345's ... Personally I think it's very sad, such a beauty

That is sad   Maybe US can get some of AF's 343s
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RE: US' Future Intl Routes?

Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:44 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 15):

I would be surprised to see CAI anytime soon. Business and tourism traffic into CAI has taken a hit over the past year with all the political uncertainty. Furthermore, there is now a wait and see approach with the newly elected president.

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