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SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:18 pm

Over the past few months, bits and pieces of an inevidable purchase have been leaking out via the aviation news media. First was that they were looking at several aircraft. Then there was the announcement of a multi-billion dollar loan guarantee. Today, those subtle hints finally come to fruition.


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...rlines-commits-to-100-mrjs-374254/

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http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...42-billion-agreement-100-mrjs-0711

[Edited 2012-07-11 07:28:25]
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:23 pm

Big blow to Bombardier and Embraer.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:25 pm

Interesting. Why MRJ's instead of E190s?
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:34 pm

At the time of posting, I did not realize that this announcement was in any way related to Farnborough. Mods, do as you please.
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:35 pm

How many seats does an MRJ 90 have in a two class layout? I was thinking they might be preparing for the new DL contract that will allow additional 76-seat flying by regional carriers.
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 2):
Interesting. Why MRJ's instead of E190s?

I'd say the reason is scope related. The E190 has been controversial with pilots because it can hold over 100 seats. The CRJ-900 cannot and has been more popular, particularly in a two class config. It appears to me that this A/C is more akin to a CRJ-900. The MTOW is also akin to the CRJ-900 and about 15% less than the E190.
 
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:57 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
How many seats does an MRJ 90 have in a two class layout? I was thinking they might be preparing for the new DL contract that will allow additional 76-seat flying by regional carriers.

It appears it could have around 84 to 86 seats in a two class. The site says 86-96 with 92 being typical.

I'm assuming this is a 2x2 config interior and a 1x2 premium class.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:07 pm

Mitsubishi appears to have designed their cabin configurations around an ultra-slimline seat that allows 29" pitch to feel like 31" pitch. If an airline chose to go with a more conventional pitch and 3 cabin (F, Y+, Y) arrangement, it looks like the MRJ90 could be made to fit 76 passengers. That said, it is 14 ft. longer than an E175 so there would be a fair amount of wasted space.

I'm wondering if the regional carriers are planning to launch more branded operations, since it's doubtful any mainline contracts will allow these aircraft to be used to their full potential. This is moreso the case with Republic and their C-Series order, which was going to be used for Frontier but now isn't.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:14 pm

The fact that Skywest went with a relatively newcomer in the market tells you they got a niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice price on the order that Bombardier and Embraer couldn't touch.This RJ market in one fell swoop just jumped from two to three.

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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:46 pm

The MRJ is smaller and lighter than the 190 series and is also likely to burn much less fuel. So if you don't need the additional capabilities of the Embraer. Then The MRJ can look very attractive.
 
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting timf (Reply 7):
That said, it is 14 ft. longer than an E175 so there would be a fair amount of wasted space.



The EMB175 has under floor cargo bins. The MRJ does not. It has a bin at the rear, like a CRJ or ERJ, so length of aircraft is not an indicator of available cabin space.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:48 pm

Who are they gonna fly them for? Is DL and UA down with this?
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:52 pm

Congrats to OO and Mitsubishi!  

(as a Japan fanboy this is huge for me   )
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:53 pm

Quoting GEG2RAP (Reply 11):
Who are they gonna fly them for? Is DL and UA down with this?

If SkyWest can configure them to 76 seats, then they could fly for DL Connection. UA's scope clause, however, requires mainline pilots to fly 76 seaters, so UA Express is unlikely.
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:02 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):
UA's scope clause, however, requires mainline pilots to fly 76 seaters, so UA Express is unlikely.

Not neccesarily. The MRJ-70 can have 8 coach seats removed, have first class inserted, and stretch some rows with E+, and have it near-identical to the E-170.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:07 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14):
Not neccesarily. The MRJ-70 can have 8 coach seats removed, have first class inserted, and stretch some rows with E+, and have it near-identical to the E-170.

Then it'd fit in with the existing CR7 fleet as well with F and Ex-plus.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:08 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14):

Not neccesarily. The MRJ-70 can have 8 coach seats removed, have first class inserted, and stretch some rows with E+, and have it near-identical to the E-170.

The order is for the MRJ 90, not the MRJ 70. Of course, this order doesn't rule out an MRJ 70 order for UA Express in the future.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:12 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14):
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):UA's scope clause, however, requires mainline pilots to fly 76 seaters, so UA Express is unlikely.
Not neccesarily. The MRJ-70 can have 8 coach seats removed, have first class inserted, and stretch some rows with E+, and have it near-identical to the E-170.

IIRC, Trans States Airlines has the MRJ on firm order as well. So potentially UA and DL have a couple of options to bid on their business. Who knows, maybe a few will make it into AlaskaSkyWest service?

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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:17 pm

Wow, did not see that coming! Nice looking airplane, and nice to see OO looking ahead. Maybe OO is looking at 2017, and that the clauses in the seat contracts might change by then?
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:20 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 16):
The order is for the MRJ 90, not the MRJ 70

I've not seen anything that definitively points to one sub-type or the other. They've all just said 'MRJ.' However, I did see one that says, "Could purchase either MRJ70 or MRJ90 aircraft."

Of course, since nothing is truly set in stone yet, it could still swing either way.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:30 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 19):

I've not seen anything that definitively points to one sub-type or the other. They've all just said 'MRJ.' However, I did see one that says, "Could purchase either MRJ70 or MRJ90 aircraft."

Of course, since nothing is truly set in stone yet, it could still swing either way.

The FlightGlobal article says the order is for MRJ 90s. I don't know how accurate is that article, though.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:44 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):
If SkyWest can configure them to 76 seats, then they could fly for DL Connection. UA's scope clause, however, requires mainline pilots to fly 76 seaters, so UA Express is unlikely.


That is true about United, however 2017 is still a long ways out and a lot can happen in regards to contract negotiations, So I wouldn't count out UA quite yet!
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:58 pm

Quoting cbphoto (Reply 22):
That is true about United, however 2017 is still a long ways out and a lot can happen in regards to contract negotiations, So I wouldn't count out UA quite yet!

This order is likely to increase the resolve to hold the line on Scope by UA pilots. They haven't forgotten that 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs when they permitted 70 seats RJs (at UA). Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:02 pm

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 2):
Interesting. Why MRJ's instead of E190s?

My guess is SCOPE. Currently no regional can operate E190s for any legacy. The MRJ probably has less gross weight and fewer seats.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:07 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 24):
My guess is SCOPE. Currently no regional can operate E190s for any legacy. The MRJ probably has less gross weight and fewer seats.

The E-190 seats 98-114 passengers in a one-class layout, while seating up to 94 in a two-class layout. The MRJ 90 seats 92 in a one-class layout, and that is with 29" pitch. I think it is indeed quite possible for the MRJ 90 to meet at least DL's 76-seat scope clause limit if configured in a two-class layout (three if counting Economy Comfort).

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Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:12 pm

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 23):
This order is likely to increase the resolve to hold the line on Scope by UA pilots. They haven't forgotten that 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs when they permitted 70 seats RJs (at UA).

I don't see why. This is fleet replacement, not fleet addition. And it's not like they had a choice with the 70 seat RJs. The court forced them to.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:50 pm

Some of these frames will be placed with EV. Unsure with how many.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:56 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Thread starter):
First was that they were looking at several aircraft.

I'm pleasantly shocked they picked the MRJ.    I thought Mitsubishi/Pratt was being talked to for discounts on E-175s or CRJ-900s.

Quoting dcaviation (Reply 1):
Big blow to Bombardier and Embraer.

Huge blow. The MRJ needs to see multiples more to be a true competitor, but this just changed the playing field a la B6 and the E190.

This is a bigger flow to the CF34.   Seriously. SkyWest just put GE on notice for fuel burn and engine maintenance costs. I'm certain Pratt had to promise quite a bit... But with a lower OPR engine than the C-series GTF, Pratt should be able to deliver an engine with incredibly long overhaul intervals. Recall the gearbox is not a life limited part...

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 2):
Why MRJ's instead of E190s?

Fuel burn, engine maintenance, weight, and as others noted potential scope clause conflicts.

Quoting william (Reply 8):
This RJ market in one fell swoop just jumped from two to three.

As Scooby would say............."Woah, woah".

  

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Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:09 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 3):
At the time of posting, I did not realize that this announcement was in any way related to Farnborough. Mods, do as you please.

This order is significant enough to warrant discussion with its' own thread.

This is a huge coup for Mitsubishi, as they have flown under the radar with their MRJ program and this one order more than doubles their numbers of ordered a/c.

100 a/c won't entire replace the CRJ-700 fleet of EV and OO, but who knows what the future holds for both airlines in regards to their current contracts with Delta, United and Alaska. This order is presumably to replace those a/c in the fleet, as some of those a/c are already been in service for a decade and more and by the time of the first MRJ deliveries, will be over 15 years old.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:16 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 24):
The MRJ 90 seats 92 in a one-class layout, and that is with 29" pitch. I think it is indeed quite possible for the MRJ 90 to meet at least DL's 76-seat scope clause limit if configured in a two-class layout (three if counting Economy Comfort).
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:25 pm

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 22):
This order is likely to increase the resolve to hold the line on Scope by UA pilots. They haven't forgotten that 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs when they permitted 70 seats RJs (at UA). Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

I would imagine that many of them will be coming back to work in the near future, with the upcoming pilot shortage they'll be coming back in a big way. Forced retirements will probably see these guys shoot up the food chain fairly quickly. Lets also not forget many of these guys are currently flying the 70's that put them on the furlough list in the first place! Hopefully we can get 'em back up to mainline soon.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:27 pm

As per wikipedia, E175 has 88 seats at 30" pitch. So 90 seats at 29" pitch for E175 is possible, against 92 seats for MRJ-90.

MRJ-90 has about 5% more MTOW than E175, and a likely15% lower trip fuel burn makes it an unbeatable competitor to the current E175.

Embraer is considering using a common wing for E175 and E190/195 for its NEO program, which should help E175 in closing the gap with MRJ-90 on fuel burn.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:48 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 28):
This is a huge coup for Mitsubishi, as they have flown under the radar with their MRJ program and this one order more than doubles their numbers of ordered a/c.

Not to pull it off topic, but besides Republic and a few domestic orders, how many other airlines have ordered the MRJ?

Not many, I'm assuming, so this is huge news for their program.
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:31 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 32):
Not to pull it off topic, but besides Republic and a few domestic orders, how many other airlines have ordered the MRJ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Regional_Jet#Orders

Republic is not on the list.

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Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:12 pm

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 30):
I would imagine that many of them will be coming back to work in the near future, with the upcoming pilot shortage they'll be coming back in a big way.

Right. But if sCo goes with a 70 seat scope they can bring in a bunch of CRJ7s and lay off 1000 sCO pilots in addition to the sUA pilots on furlough.

How many pilots will UA need in the next 18 to 36 months?
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:49 pm

The new SLC airport will have the gates for skywest to operate these replacing alot of the CR2s and that is still skywests largest station by departures. For Delta they could retire alot of the CR2 flying and replace them with these larger and more fuel efficient planes more seats less frequencies and less fuel. Sure there are quite a few smaller cities they will need another plane type for sure but this could replace alot of the unfuel efficient flying going on think cali, idaho, montana, colorado flying etc. larger planes, less frequencies, and shorter waits between connections. SLC is building perfectly for this order and i know delta wants to reduce the high cr2 flying there they just cant because of gates. I could see this order being thinking about delta and not united.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting planemaker (Reply 29):
Bombardier skunked by Skywest

If Bombardier were simply offering more CR9s, I can see why Skywest might decide to try something newer.
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:24 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 25):
Quoting flyhossd (Reply 23):
This order is likely to increase the resolve to hold the line on Scope by UA pilots. They haven't forgotten that 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs when they permitted 70 seats RJs (at UA).

I don't see why. This is fleet replacement, not fleet addition. And it's not like they had a choice with the 70 seat RJs. The court forced them to.

My reference was from an assumption that the MRJs would be equipped with greater than 70 seats. IF that is the case, then these aircraft would pose a threat to furlough even more UA pilots. Short of Chapter 11 for UA, I don't expect the UA pilots to give up any Scope (JMHO).

As I recall, it wasn't a court that forced 70 seat RJs at UA, rather it was the threat of it (please correct me if I'm wrong). That is, the UA pilots gave up Scope to 70 seat RJs in exchange for protecting their pension. Not much later, UA terminated the pension anyway. So 1400+ UA pilots lost their jobs and the pensions was lost, too.

Gee, I can't imagine why the UA pilot group would see SkyWest's order as an additional threat to their careers.
  
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:47 pm

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 37):

If they didn't approve it, the court was going to do it anyway. As for UA taking their pensions, they can't blame the regionals for taking away the pensions. Their frustration lay with management, but hey, they have found the regionals an easier target since they unions see they can abuse the angle of "Der Tekkin' R Jerbs!!" despite the fact that they themselves approved of it in the first place (whether under duress, or not!) The fact that company screwed them over anyway just made things worse.

That said, ALPA has no bite here. These aircraft, whether MRJ-70, or MRJ-90, when properly sorted out, will be fully within the scope clauses of not only UA, but DL, AS, and eventually, US. And who knows, even AA possibly. They provide a more positive flying experience, too. That's what airlines want: a better flying experience for their customers.

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Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:05 pm

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 22):
This order is likely to increase the resolve to hold the line on Scope by UA pilots. They haven't forgotten that 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs when they permitted 70 seats RJs (at UA).
Quoting flyhossd (Reply 37):
That is, the UA pilots gave up Scope to 70 seat RJs in exchange for protecting their pension.

So the senior guys threw the junior ones under the bus, and then blame the company for layoffs? And they say denial is just a river in Egypt. Maybe the union needs to find a way to do something nobody else has done. Maybe they need to find a way to profitably fly the airplane at mainline. Profitably for both sides that is. Might mean starting pay isn't exactly where you want it, but it could mean 1400 recalls, and future job growth. It's a theory....
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:17 pm

Quoting toltommy (Reply 39):
Maybe the union needs to find a way to do something nobody else has done. Maybe they need to find a way to profitably fly the airplane at mainline. Profitably for both sides that is. Might mean starting pay isn't exactly where you want it, but it could mean 1400 recalls, and future job growth. It's a theory....

I agree, but the fact that this seems so elusive tells me that it's easier said than done. In my perfect world, everyone from the B1900 to the A380 would be on one list, with a pay curve/benefits package that reflected their tenure as well as the aircraft gross weight (or something akin). I'm not in the biz so I don't know how that would look, but clearly what we have now isn't working. An airline should be able to decide that a route needs a 70 seater, a 120 seater, and a 180 seater throughout the day/week without having to worry about who owns what, scope, etc. But it needs to work for everyone, including the deserving employees.

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Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 38):
Quoting toltommy (Reply 39):

It seems that you both missed the point I was trying to make. It's not what the airline management wants or thinks or what the customers what - it's what the UA pilots will approve. As I wrote, earlier, short of a Chapter 11 filing by UA, I suspect that the UA pilot group will remember what happened when 70 seat RJs appeared on the UA property - 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs. In the minds of the UA pilots that remain, it's very likely that they'll equate more Scope concessions with more pilot furloughs.

Time will tell of course, eventually we'll know how it all sorts out. Maybe these MRJs aren't intended for United Express flying. There are large numbers of pilots about to hit mandatory retirement at age 65, so I wonder if the "regionals" will be able to staff the airplanes anyway.
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:59 am

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 41):
As I wrote, earlier, short of a Chapter 11 filing by UA, I suspect that the UA pilot group will remember what happened when 70 seat RJs appeared on the UA property - 1437 UA pilots lost their jobs.

As much talk as there is of "union solidarity", there isn't any. The senior half of the group agreed to a contract that threw 1437 union brothers on the street, in order to save their pensions. Didn't work out, and those who remain blame scope for the job losses. Technically true, but the reality is that the senior pilots let those jobs be replaced by regional flying.

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 41):
In the minds of the UA pilots that remain, it's very likely that they'll equate more Scope concessions with more pilot furloughs.

True. But they allowed scope to begin with, and every city UA serves can't be served by a 737 or larger mainline aircraft. How does the union work with the company to bring regional flying back in house? The bigger problem is that the sUA culture seems to be the surviving culture. And thats the culture that plucked the golden goose bare in ESOP days. The sCO culture seemed to be a little more understanding between both sides. It's very much "us vs. them" between the sUA pilots and management. It's going to keep the new UA from going forward.
 
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Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 33):
Republic is not on the list.

my bad, got that mixed up with the C series

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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:34 am

Quoting toltommy (Reply 42):

As much talk as there is of "union solidarity", there isn't any. The senior half of the group agreed to a contract that threw 1437 union brothers on the street, in order to save their pensions. Didn't work out, and those who remain blame scope for the job losses. Technically true, but the reality is that the senior pilots let those jobs be replaced by regional flying.

If we're being brutally honest, might as well say that the senior pilots also allowed United to go after lower labor costs than Southwest... strange new world.
 
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:53 am

Is this order for OO to operate themselves or EV as well?
 
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:21 am

Quoting Infiniti329 (Reply 46):
Is this order for OO to operate themselves or EV as well?



From what I understand, it's to be 50-50. However, that could change depending on the results/repercussions of the next the EV pilot contract.
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:27 am

I received a copy of a SkyWest memo dated July 11, 2012 which reads -

"These 100 aircraft would be replacement aircraft for current ExpressJet and SkyWest Airlines fleets and are fully intended to fly under contract with major partners. They are not growth aircraft. The aircraft identified in the agreement in principle include the MRJ70 or MRJ90, which range from 70 to 90 seats. The configuration of seats would be determined by scope limitations and airline requirements at time of delivery. The intended delivery time frame would be from 2017 to 2020. While specific allocations are yet to be determined, we anticipate that aircraft would be delivered to both of SkyWest, Inc's operating entities."
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RE: SkyWest Enters Agreement To Purchase 100 MRJs

Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:22 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 48):
These 100 aircraft would be replacement aircraft for current ExpressJet and SkyWest Airlines fleets and are fully intended to fly under contract with major partners.

That implies lease expiration on current aircraft. Is that true for SkyWest?

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 41):
There are large numbers of pilots about to hit mandatory retirement at age 65, so I wonder if the "regionals" will be able to staff the airplanes anyway.

There are plenty of military pilots about to find out what 'budget cuts' mean to their jobs. There will be enough pilots.

The famed pilot shortage isn't going to happen anytime soon. I doubt it will ever happen.

Quoting toltommy (Reply 42):
How does the union work with the company to bring regional flying back in house?

That is the big question. How could *all* of the UA (and other legacy) unions work together to bring regional flying profitably in house?

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