RyanAirB737
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Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:54 pm

Random question. In TWA's old Terminal 5, where was FIS located? After arriving from MXP in 1999, I remember walking down a glass hallway and then down an escalator into FIS and the international baggage claim. Then upon leaving FIS, there was a sign that said "Thank you for flying our airline" as I got on the escalator to re-emerge in the terminal. But I cannot remember if this took me back into the boarding area, or if it took me back to the main terminal.

Was FIS self-contained underneath the "newer" satellite (this area seemed too small for all of that)? Was it under the tubes connecting the head house to the satellite? Or was it under the head house entirely?

On a side note, where was check-in located? I never saw it because I never needed to check in there.

[At the time, I was scared of flying and I remember being freaked out over how space age the terminal looked. I didn't know it had such history. Now I miss it!]
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:02 pm

Flight Wing One...which was built in the 70s (newer side)

I think it was ground leverl or below ground and the walkway back was not the tubes that everyone loves.

I always assumed it was an underground walkway...I know the escalator emerged in the baggage claim.

Never went through there...can someone enlighten us?????
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:22 pm

Flight Wing One had the FIS facilities below ground. Escalators bypassed the departure lounge at each gate and two levels down, a corridor lead to the inspection area. After passport control, in a large hall were located the luggage carousels. The exit to the main terminal was also an underground corridor with a moving sidewalk. An unusual feature was a parallel moving belt for luggage. After passing customs, you would place your luggage on the belt and it would be picked up on a carousel in the domestic arrival area.
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:41 pm

Quoting nomadic (Reply 2):

I remember for my flight to LAX I put my bag on the belt, so it must have been sorted out for the flight to LA.

Thanks, so after passing customs and the baggage "re-check-in" and going up the escalator, did the passenger emerge in Flight Wing One and have to walk through the tube back to the head house, or would the passenger emerge in the head house/main lobby?
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:32 pm

Quoting RyanAirB737 (Reply 3):
Thanks, so after passing customs and the baggage "re-check-in" and going up the escalator, did the passenger emerge in Flight Wing One and have to walk through the tube back to the head house, or would the passenger emerge in the head house/main lobby?

You would have gone through the underground passage and come out in the main terminal in the domestic baggage claim lobby. For connecting flights you would enter the 'rotunda' and return to either of the two flight wings via the tubes.
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:46 pm

Very cool setup TWA had there.

Don't forget that for most of the 80s and 90s, most domestic flights left out of T6 and you had to walk outside via covered walkway to get there
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:43 pm

[quote=jfklganyc,reply=5]Don't forget that for most of the 80s and 90s, most domestic flights left out of T6 and you had to walk outside via covered walkway to get there[/quote

The 'covered walkway' was nothing more than a plywood shelter along-side the main road in front of the terminals. Half way along you had to cross the street that accessed the arrivals area at T6. This part was not covered and certainly not very pleasant on a rainy or snowy day. I know from experience, having made connections several times between T5 & T6. Shortly after TWA moved in to T6 they published a rendering of an elevated glass-enclosed walkway, similar to the one Pan Am built between T2 and T3. Unfortunately they retreated back to T5 before it could be constructed.
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:48 pm

Quoting nomadic (Reply 6):
Shortly after TWA moved in to T6 they published a rendering of an elevated glass-enclosed walkway, similar to the one Pan Am built between T2 and T3. Unfortunately they retreated back to T5 before it could be constructed.

My aunt worked for TWA when they expanded to T6. I can remember going to the open house at T6 and seeing a model of the above ground connector between the two buildings.
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:45 pm

They didn't build it because they were perpetually broke and ran a half-baked operation.

They certainly had T6 long enough to build it! 20 years give or take
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:27 am

Quoting nomadic (Reply 4):
You would have gone through the underground passage and come out in the main terminal in the domestic baggage claim lobby. For connecting flights you would enter the 'rotunda' and return to either of the two flight wings via the tubes.

Thanks for reminding me! I think I am getting my memories mixed up. I believe the escalator back to the headhouse emptied slightly off to the right of the tube connecting to the older boarding area. I remember seeing the clock that hung from the roof. Since I was connecting back to LAX, I took the escalator instead of the tunnel back to the baggage claim. I remember once I was in the main terminal I could not even walk over to the baggage claim without a ticket.

I remember the FIS and international baggage claim area was very dimly lit and dingy. Very reminiscent of a prior era!  
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:28 am

Speaking of TWA T5, here are some interesting pics I came across:


T5 entrance and ramp to makeshift ticket counter:
T5 entrance from inside
source: TWAhistory.com

Makeshift ticket counter:
ticket counter in T5 center area

T5 int'l bag claim (I think - never been there):
T5 int'l bag claim
 
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RE: Where Was FIS In TWA's Old T5 At JFK?

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting RyanAirB737 (Reply 9):
I remember the FIS and international baggage claim area was very dimly lit and dingy. Very reminiscent of a prior era!

It is funny what we remember. I recall the TWA T5 FIS being rather bright and airy. I guess I was comparinig it to the British Airways facility at T7. I found that, and the terminal in general, to be dark and dingy.

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