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Semaex
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Interesting Day At FRA

Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:15 pm

G'day folks,

I had the opportunity to visit the observer's deck at FRA today, around 1400L, which happens less often than I would like to.
To my surprise though, I seemed to have cought an interesting day, because of the following things I witnessed:

- 2x VN 772, which departed about 15 minutes after one another. So far I thought that only one VN 777 served FRA daily.
- 2x QF 744, one in the remote parking space of the future T3, as it always is, but also one which departed around 1430L, and I have no idea what it was doing in FRA! Charter? MX replace?
- both CX and CA with 744. A couple of months ago they were both 777. Is that a change for the summer schedule or permanent?

I'm sure there are quite logic explanations to all of my trivial sensations. Anyone willing to fill me in on the matters? I'd be glad to learn something new today!



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RE: Interesting Day At FRA

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:54 pm

Don't know about VN but QF is a left-over from last night, victim of FRA's rigid curfew guillotine at 23h00.

VN might as well be.
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RE: Interesting Day At FRA

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:58 pm

Quoting Semaex (Thread starter):
2x VN 772, which departed about 15 minutes after one another. So far I thought that only one VN 777 served FRA daily.

During summer, VN serves Hanoi and Ho-Chi-Minh City from FRA.

Flight 126 to HAN was scheduled to depart at 13:55, delayed until 14:15.
Flight 120 to SGN left on time at 14:30

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RE: Interesting Day At FRA

Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:15 pm

CX is always 744 (288/289). The 777 you have seen a couple of months ago must have been a substitute for the 744. CA 744 is unusual these days. Normaly it's a 77W from Beijng and a 343/332 from Shanghai.

PanHAM is right about the QF. They where by far too late the night before with start up at around 22:48 lcl beeing the last in the line... they never made it near the runway...
 
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RE: Interesting Day At FRA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:31 am

Quoting Hirnie (Reply 3):
PanHAM is right about the QF. They where by far too late the night before with start up at around 22:48 lcl beeing the last in the line... they never made it near the runway...

Doesn't that happen more often now with the strict 2300L limit? Wouldn't QF consider getting the plane out a couple of minutes earlier? Or are slots the main factor for pushing the departure as far back as possible?

Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 2):
During summer, VN serves Hanoi and Ho-Chi-Minh City from FRA.

Flight 126 to HAN was scheduled to depart at 13:55, delayed until 14:15.
Flight 120 to SGN left on time at 14:30

I know it's wishful thinking, but that schedule would be great for a single A380 one-stop operation!
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RE: Interesting Day At FRA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:23 am

Slots between 22 and 2300 are limited as well and the earlier that flight gets into SIN the longer the transit pax have to wait for their Oz connections. Not really an attractive product anymore, considering that the old departure time (block) was 23h30 and I usually heard the 744 here in my Taunus village a bit after midnight.

Looks the reason for the delay was technical, may be they move the aircraft, which is here all day, half an hour earlier to the stand, but then things can go wrong as well and QF knows what they are doing.

The pity is, if that happens a couple of more times and the state QF is in right now, FRA will lose this flight. Either they give up completely or they will move it to Paris or Amsterdam
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