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Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:40 pm

Well this is somewhat scary, (whoever did it is a sick bastard):

Quote:
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) is working with investigators in the U.S. and the Netherlands after objects that appeared to be sewing needles were found in sandwiches on four flights from Amsterdam to the U.S. yesterday.

One person was injured and declined medical treatment after a flight landed in Minneapolis, Kristin Baur, a Delta spokeswoman, said in an interview today. The incident is being investigated by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation and officials in the Netherlands as well as Gate Gourmet, Delta’s caterer, she said.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...rce-of-needles-in-food#r=bloomberg

I didn't see it posted so my apologies if I missed it.

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Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:49 pm

Are tiny sewing packs in the amenity kits up front?
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:58 pm

Looks Like TSA is going to start screening meals before they board the planes........
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:30 am

I'm glad now our passengers now know why they were served Pizza in BE today  

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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:58 am

Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as I find it strange that these sandwiches only made it on US bound flights (Seattle, Minneapolis, ATL X2).
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:55 am

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as I find it strange that these sandwiches only made it on US bound flights (Seattle, Minneapolis, ATL X2).

I would assume a terror group would do more than throw a few needles in some sandwiches, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:48 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 5):
I would assume a terror group would do more than throw a few needles in some sandwiches, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

Could be a test. Trying to see what works, what doesn't and how far they can go before possibly being detected, all in preparation for something bigger. Or, it could just be some sick weirdo decided to put some needles in a couple of sandwiches...
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:42 am

And I thought the food was bad on my last DL flight.
  
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:13 am

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as I find it strange that these sandwiches only made it on US bound flights (Seattle, Minneapolis, ATL X2).

Oh no a terror group messing with food , the food made it onto these flights because Delta ordered them, i stand corrected but i was under the impression that each airline had a menu that was followed for all flights over a roster period, and Gate Gourmet was contracted to supply.
Sounds more like a pissed of employee of GG to me

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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:15 pm

Delta seems to operate mostly to the US from AMS, so before paranoia conquers please think first.....

I know DL operates AMS-DEL too but the catering ordered for this destinations might just have a different menu.
I'm always astonished to see people from the US seem to think the whole world is against them as soon as somehting odds happens..... It probably just is a stupid **** who thinks he's funny....nothing more.
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:48 pm

I found it funny that a teen said he wouldn't give the needle to authorities pending a lawsuit. Yet, apparently his dad was on the flight to MSP isn't making a big deal out of it (yet).
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as

LOL, that is a joke right?

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
I find it strange that these sandwiches only made it on US bound flights (Seattle, Minneapolis, ATL X2).

That is a little strange, who knows maybe a disgruntle Delta cabin crew-member put them in there. Either way whoever did this is sick!

One thing we do know for sure, this being an American airline and Americans being involved, someone somewhere is going to get sued for millions!!!   

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Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:34 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
I'm always astonished to see people from the US seem to think the whole world is against them as soon as somehting odds happens.....

In their defence I have to say that a lot of weirdo and radicals over obsessed with trying to insult or harm U.S. citizen in whatever possible way. Not saying this was the case here, just stating that there are a lot of people obsessed with trying to insult or harm U.S citizen to get attention.
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:38 pm

Quoting bj87 (Reply 11):
Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as

LOL, that is a joke right?

I don't know...is IT?? 
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:40 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
Delta seems to operate mostly to the US from AMS, so before paranoia conquers please think first.....

Shoebomber...came out of the same airport....at the end of the day it's always a possibility....paranoia aside ...
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:45 pm

Quoting indcwby (Reply 2):

Looks Like TSA is going to start screening meals before they board the planes........

Meals are already screened, but not 100%, and certainly wouldn't involve disassembling sandwiches.
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:58 pm

Quoting bj87 (Reply 11):
That is a little strange, who knows maybe a disgruntle Delta cabin crew-member put them in there. Either way whoever did this is sick!

Unless it was a group of flight attendants I don't think this could be possible. The needles were found on four separate flights.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:00 pm

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 14):
Shoebomber...came out of the same airport....at the end of the day it's always a possibility....paranoia aside ...

No, that was the underwear bomber on a flight from AMS to DTW.
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
I'm always astonished to see people from the US seem to think the whole world is against them as soon as somehting odds happens

Wrong. Americans don't act like the "victims" as you so ineloquently try to saddle them with that label. Far from that.
They have every right to protect themselves. Americans are far from paranoid. They have more "fight" in them than many a Dutchman I have met in my life.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
I know DL operates AMS-DEL

Make that BOM

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
nothing more

So more like a prank? Needles in food a "joke"? C'mon dude.

It's more something of the "mentally disturbed employee" category actually. This is a serious setback for GateGourmet and an unfortunate embarrassing episode for DL.
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:13 pm

Quoting peanuts (Reply 18):
They have every right to protect themselves. Americans are far from paranoid.

If the reaction to a few needles in a sandwich is "a sleeper cell of a terror group" and "trial runs by terror group" that sure sounds an awful lot like paranoia to me.

Quoting peanuts (Reply 18):
They have more "fight" in them than many a Dutchman I have met in my life.

Perhaps that's part of the problem but that's another discussion.

Quoting peanuts (Reply 18):
So more like a prank? Needles in food a "joke"? C'mon dude.

It's more something of the "mentally disturbed employee" category actually.

Agree, this is a bit more than a 'prank' but more likely to be a disgruntled or deranged employee than Johnny Taliban.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:17 pm

Quoting FI642 (Reply 15):
Quoting indcwby (Reply 2):

Looks Like TSA is going to start screening meals before they board the planes........

Meals are already screened, but not 100%, and certainly wouldn't involve disassembling sandwiches.

When I said this, I was being comical about the fact that TSA would be patting down sandwiches before you eat them....
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:40 pm

Quoting dmt52 (Reply 17):
uoting GEsubsea (Reply 14):
Shoebomber...came out of the same airport....at the end of the day it's always a possibility....paranoia aside ...

No, that was the underwear bomber on a flight from AMS to DTW.

Amazing how the facts get pushed aside by what people believe is true. I once heard a TSA screener at CVG claim the body scanners caught the underwear bomber. Seriously.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:46 pm

Quoting Wolbo (Reply 19):
If the reaction to a few needles in a sandwich is "a sleeper cell of a terror group" and "trial runs by terror group" that sure sounds an awful lot like paranoia to me.

Says you....its not paranoia...its about being vigilant concerning the dangers everyone faces in the world today as this can happening anywhere (not just in the airline industry)......my wife is German and even she agrees to a certain extent that an incident like that could have links related to a "borderline" attempt....

However, I do have to agree that it could very well be just a disgruntled employee.....
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:52 pm

Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 6):
Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 5):
I would assume a terror group would do more than throw a few needles in some sandwiches, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

Could be a test. Trying to see what works, what doesn't and how far they can go before possibly being detected, all in preparation for something bigger. Or, it could just be some sick weirdo decided to put some needles in a couple of sandwiches...

Then it would be a pretty idiotic test. I mean now that needles were found, one can bet that any holes will be tightened up. it would make more sense to try to put some inert substance, or something that might make people sick but leave no obvious evidence, I mean now any successful test, assuming this was one, is now moot.
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:15 pm

I just have to say that I have been requested DL put sharper cheese in their sandwiches, but this is ridiculous...

In all seriousness, I hope whoever is responsible is held accountable whether this was done accidently or maliciously.

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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:30 pm

Quoting csavel (Reply 23):
Then it would be a pretty idiotic test.

That depends on the desired outcome. Maybe it was not a test but instead a diversion?
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:32 pm

Quoting mal787 (Reply 8):
Sounds more like a pissed of employee of GG to me

Agreed - a sick mind to be sure, but a dis-gruntled employee seems the most logical cause. Hope he/she is found and punished.

Quoting TeamInTheSky (Reply 24):
I just have to say that I have been requested DL put sharper cheese in their sandwiches, but this is ridiculous...

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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as I find it strange that these sandwiches only made it on US bound flights (Seattle, Minneapolis, ATL X2).


I highly doubt terrorist. I think its more a sick person who finds this funny or just wants their 15 minutes in the spotlight by having one of their pranks on the news.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:44 pm

Its tricky to know exactly what the intention was of the person who placed these needles in the sandwich. Maybe they like Turkeys and didn't want them to end their days in sandwiches? There can be a number of bizarre possibilities. What is clear is Gate Gourmet (Is it really Gourmet food? I think not!) need to install HD CCTV on its assembly lines to catch any potential food adulterer.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:54 pm

Quoting mop357 (Reply 27):


I highly doubt terrorist. I think its more a sick person who finds this funny or just wants their 15 minutes in the spotlight by having one of their pranks on the news.

  
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:06 pm

Quoting mop357 (Reply 27):
I highly doubt terrorist. I think its more a sick person who finds this funny or just wants their 15 minutes in the spotlight by having one of their pranks on the news.

Would it fit saying needless to say in this thread? If so, needless to say you are probably right  
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:41 pm

In the old days when unions were younger and more feisty, an incident like this would indicate labor troubles of some sort. These days, who knows if it's an isolated lunatic, international terror, or just an accident of some sort?

Given the disruptive but non-lethal nature of the risk, however, we might look again at the labor aspect.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:51 pm

Its good to see airlines providing their customers with extra stuff for FREE!
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:00 pm

Quoting mop357 (Reply 27):
I highly doubt terrorist.

I'd venture to say that most people highly doubt it. But the possibility cannot be dismissed right out of hand either. ALL possibilities need to be explored.
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:09 pm

Quoting bj87 (Reply 11):
maybe a disgruntleD Delta cabin crew-member put them in there

On all 4 four flights?

Quoting peanuts (Reply 18):
They have more "fight" in them than many a Dutchman
Quoting Wolbo (Reply 19):
Perhaps that's part of the problem but that's another discussion.

Compare how many Dutch died for America's freedom and how many Americans died for Dutch freedom. Another part of the problem is that 'others' start fighting and America keeps getting asked to help.
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Maybe an AMS GG employee is pissed that Delta recently announced that 'Gate Gourmet London' won Delta's 'International Caterer of the Year' award and not AMS.
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:41 pm

Sounds (to me) like a rest run.

The tiniest drop of Ricin on *any* of the needles, and it would be an endgame.

My question -- were any of the discovered needles hollowed-out in any way? If so, this was probably *not* an accident.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:30 pm

It happened. Now the father of the boy on the ATL bound flight who refused to give up the needle because he needed it as evidence in a lawsuit, claims he is now taking anti-HIV drugs since the needle pricked the top of his mouth. What are the odds of both father and son, on two seperate flights, MSP and ATL, to each be given one of 6 sandwiches discovered to have a needle in them ? Sounds to me like the kid is trying to get his college tuition paid for courtesy of Delta.
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:45 pm

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 10):
I found it funny that a teen said he wouldn't give the needle to authorities pending a lawsuit. Yet, apparently his dad was on the flight to MSP isn't making a big deal out of it (yet)
Quoting HAWAIIAN932 (Reply 37):
It happened. Now the father of the boy on the ATL bound flight who refused to give up the needle because he needed it as evidence in a lawsuit, claims he is now taking anti-HIV drugs since the needle pricked the top of his mouth. What are the odds of both father and son, on two seperate flights, MSP and ATL, to each be given one of 6 sandwiches discovered to have a needle in them ? Sounds to me like the kid is trying to get his college tuition paid for courtesy of Delta.

It's one of the things the FBI is looking into. A real coincidence that a father and son on two separate flights find needles.

BTW, wasn't it a NW flight out of AMS where four terrorists were mixing chemicals and the reason we now are not allowed no more than 3.2 oz liquids per container in carry on luggage?
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:52 pm

Quoting tugger (Thread starter):
One person was injured and declined medical treatment after a flight landed in Minneapolis, Kristin Baur, a Delta spokeswoman, said in an interview today.

That was stupid - should have taken the medical treatment prove the injury and then call their lawyer and make Million$

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 4):
Have to wonder if Gate Gourmet was possibly infiltrated by a sleeper cell of a terror group as I find it strange that these sandwiches only made it on US bound flights (Seattle, Minneapolis, ATL X2).

Really? There would have been more than 4 sandwiches if that was the case. A sleeper cell would have gotten arsenic or something instead that looks more like a food substance and put it in a lot more food.

It happens all the time in restaurants in the U.S. Even stranger shit winds up in people's food - glass in burgers, dentures in Chinese food, so each time that happens we are going to say Al Qaida is behind it? Can't we just think that maybe someone f***ed up and some needles fell in the food? Someone did sloppy food handling.

Stop listening to Fox news. I am starting to agree with the Euros on here, we are getting way too paranoid with terrorism. Just like a Captain America cop who think that a telephoto lens is a SAM launcher at the airport.

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 14):
Shoebomber...came out of the same airport....at the end of the day it's always a possibility....paranoia aside ...

Shoebomber was CDG, but the guy who lit his nuts on fire on the way to DTW flew through AMS on his way from Lagos.
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:47 am

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 36):
The tiniest drop of Ricin on *any* of the needles, and it would be an endgame.

Ricin doesn't require a needle if it's going to be laced in a sandwich.
 
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:54 am

The thing is that the kitchen in Amsterdam actually supplies these sandwiches for many other Europe - U.S. flights operated by Delta...not just from Amsterdam.

...and of course the first thing out of these passenger's mouth wasn't the needle...it was "i'm suing you".
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:35 am

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 39):
Can't we just think that maybe someone f***ed up and some needles fell in the food? Someone did sloppy food handling.

Now, what would needles be doing there in the first place, if we're to believe that they just "fell" into the food?  
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RE: Needles Found In Food On 4 Delta Flights - AMS>USA

Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:45 am

I'm astonished many of us find this incident amusing... I certainly ain't laughing about it...

Hope they catch the b#stard!

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Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:31 am

Quoting HAWAIIAN932 (Reply 37):
It happened. Now the father of the boy on the ATL bound flight who refused to give up the needle because he needed it as evidence in a lawsuit, claims he is now taking anti-HIV drugs since the needle pricked the top of his mouth. What are the odds of both father and son, on two seperate flights, MSP and ATL, to each be given one of 6 sandwiches discovered to have a needle in them ? Sounds to me like the kid is trying to get his college tuition paid for courtesy of Delta.

Yes I read about this in another story. Two members of the same family making the same discovery on different flights.

Before we talk about terrorists in the flight kitchen, let's get all the facts first.
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:23 am

This is a serious incident.....some employee who is trying this stuff to mess with the company that caters.
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:11 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 45):
This is a serious incident.....some employee who is trying this stuff to mess with the company that caters.

I would say, if that is the case, that it would do more harm to the carrier than the caterer. Pax don't usually know who makes their food......all they see is that it's DL (or whoever) that feeds them.
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:01 pm

Quoting OOer (Reply 41):
i'm suing you".

"I am sewing you" might be more appropriate...

seriously though, this sounds like either disgruntled catering employee or a "sew-happy" passenger. Litigation culture...
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:19 pm

Arnt there CCTvs when food is packaged......
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:45 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 48):

Certainly hope not considering that would be invasion of privacy...

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