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Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:33 am

Anyone know the story behind the Spanair DC-9 sitting at HIO, sans engines? Right by Nike's hangar, too...Suprised Phil Knight would allow such low class neighbors  
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:54 am

Since JK hasn't operated DC-9's since the early 1990's, I suppose you have seen an MD-80.
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:00 pm

It's their MDs, or actually DC-9-81/82/83/87, as their certificates said.

Some of them was owned by SAS and has been sent to the US for part out and scrap
 
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:22 pm


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I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.  
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:41 pm

Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.

It is one of 7 MD-87's purchased for this purpose.
 
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:49 pm

Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.

Who's doing the converting? Evergreen?
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:51 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 1):
Since JK hasn't operated DC-9's since the early 1990's, I suppose you have seen an MD-80.

Hard to tell with no engines on the airframe  
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:43 pm

Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.

I wonder how efficient it will be as a tanker.
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:49 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):

I wonder how efficient it will be as a tanker.

According to the USFS:

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MD-87 (Boeing). This aircraft is no longer in production and would only be available as previously-used. This aircraft has a speed of 380 mph; carries approximately 4,000 gallons of retardant; has 2 turbo fan engines; and was designed for commercial passenger transport, a mission that is not comparable to the maneuver load impacts of an airtanker in the wildland firefighting environment. Original manufacturer support for this aircraft has not yet been obtained. This aircraft has not gone through the required testing, evaluation and application phase for the airtanker mission, but it would be expected to meet agency and FAA airworthiness and safety requirements. The MD-87 will not be capable of multi-role missions.

So about 33% more retardant capacity than a C-130 or other heavy tanker.
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:49 pm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 8):
The MD-87 will not be capable of multi-role missions.

Hmmm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 8):
So about 33% more retardant capacity than a C-130 or other heavy tanker.

So why are they buying it? just for the tanker purposes?
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:55 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 9):
So why are they buying it? just for the tanker purposes?

Yes. From the sounds of it, the tanks will be in the cabin, so it won't be usable for hauling personnel or freight. Think of it as a P-2 used today, but with twice the drop capacity. And not 60 years old. USFS has gone from about 40 heavy tankers on contract a decade ago to just 12 this season (and this was before the gear-up landing of one P2, and the crash of another).
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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:27 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 6):
Hard to tell with no engines on the airframe

It's all in the tail, and the wings.

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RE: Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?

Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:56 pm

This MD87 was owned by SAS and returned to them after the bankrupcy. It was ferried to HIO in March through KEF and BGR as SE-DMM. Pictures in this thread from Norwegian site Flyprat.

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