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UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:47 pm

CO has flown many Western ski season routes from EWR over the years, Montrose/Telluride, Hayden/Steamboat Springs, Vail etc.. This is the first time EWR is getting flights to Jackson Hole.

http://trib.com/business/jackson-air...8ae22d3ec50.html?comment_form=true

This and the recently added Bozeman flights are nice unique additions to EWR thanks to the merger.
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:06 pm

Legacy UA had a strong presence in JAC. ORD, SFO, IAH are all currently served. Nice to see EWR added and I wonder what kind of aircraft it will see. Likely 319/320, but I wouldn't be shocked to see a 757 on the route.
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:14 pm

What ever happened with EWR-BZN?

Was that service ever initiated?
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:19 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 2):

IIRC, they fly it on weekends with a 320.
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:24 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 1):
Legacy UA had a strong presence in JAC. ORD, SFO, IAH are all currently served. Nice to see EWR added and I wonder what kind of aircraft it will see. Likely 319/320, but I wouldn't be shocked to see a 757 on the route.

Also both LAX and DEN have service as well. Both LAX and SFO seem to get a CR7s, both ORD and IAH are 752s, and DEN is a mix of 752s, 320s, 319s, and CR7s.

I'm pretty sure EWR won't be a CR7.......

All the best to UA, EWR and JAC here.

And I think that this is the airport that Harrison Ford flies his plane to/from when he's commuting between his home there and Los Angeles when he's working......

 
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:37 pm

UA will be flying from Jackson Hole to LAX, SFO, DEN, ORD and EWR.
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:42 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 2):

EWR-BZN is seasonal Saturday-only service on a 319. I saw it leaving BZN a few weeks ago. It started June 9 and ends September 1. It may or may not resume for the ski season -- I haven't heard any announcement on that yet.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:52 pm

The BZN service also resumes for ski season according to the airport website. www.bozemanairport.com
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 4):
And I think that this is the airport that Harrison Ford flies his plane to/from when he's commuting between his home there and Los Angeles when he's working......

A good friend of mine has an uncle who lives next door to Harrison Ford in Jackson Hole. Apparently they are good friends but both are super, super reserved when they are out there -- so perhaps Harrison takes a private plane.

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 6):
EWR-BZN is seasonal Saturday-only service on a 319. I saw it leaving BZN a few weeks ago. It started June 9 and ends September 1. It may or may not resume for the ski season -- I haven't heard any announcement on that yet.

In all honesty it's a pretty random seasonal route from EWR. JAC makes way more sense but EWR-BZN may do well, IDK.

My guess is EWR-JAC will flux between a 320 and a 757.
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:34 pm

What a surprise. I'm currently living in the area and think this service would do well. Jackson is extremely popular with East Coasters. There are a lot of Wall Street investors and NYers who have second (or perhaps third or fourth   ) homes in Jackson.

IAD service would have probably done well too, but most of those passengers arrive via DEN or ORD.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 8):

In all honesty it's a pretty random seasonal route from EWR.

Its a cheaper alternative to JAC for those traveling to W. Wyoming/E. Idaho/S. Montana. The JAC-_____ -fares always seem to be through the roof. Bozeman isn't that close to Jackson, but its another alternative to SLC (4.5 hour drive) or IDA (Idaho Falls) (one hour drive with limited service).
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:52 pm

BZN is actually quite a bit busier than JAC at least on an annual basis. According to the FAA, 2011 enplanements for BZN was 397,870 and for JAC it was 279,065 and BZN was up 9.15% compared to JAC being down 3.21%. Both airports have some of the best views of any airport in the U.S.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting Stapleton (Reply 10):
BZN is actually quite a bit busier than JAC at least on an annual basis.
JAC traffic seems to be almost entirely leisure oriented, and probably gets more tourists than BZN, despite BZN having more traffic overall. BZN serves a much larger local population with a healthy business base, a university, and a fair bit of leisure traffic as well.

As for tourism, JAC serves 2 national parks, 3 ski resorts and extensive outdoor recreation opportunities. BZN serves 1 national park, 3 ski resorts (4 if you count the private Yellowstone Club), and extensive outdoor recreation opportunities. If you visit both places, you'll find that Jackson feels like a tourist town and Bozeman feels like a college town.

[Edited 2012-07-23 09:54:47]
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:23 am

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 3):
IIRC, they fly it on weekends with a 320.

Similar to DL's Saturday-only ATL-BZN with a 738.
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:54 pm

Quoting captainstefan (Reply 12):
Similar to DL's Saturday-only ATL-BZN with a 738.

I remember DL used to do BIL-ATL with CR-9s for the sunbirds. The scuttlebutt I hear is that it was discontinued because G4 was admitted to the same wing of the airport.

I thought only UA used that 'diva' tactic.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:21 pm

Man!! United is becoming "Ski Bum Central" Airlines..
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:39 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 8):
In all honesty it's a pretty random seasonal route from EWR. JAC makes way more sense but EWR-BZN may do well, IDK.

Big Sky is one of the better resorts in the country. Not entirely random.

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 14):

Man!! United is becoming "Ski Bum Central" Airlines..

  
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:54 pm

They need to open up JAC to United employees. They fly mainline aircraft into JAC almost all year long. All the ground equipment is owned my United. It would be a really nice station to work at.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:14 am

I know tag ons tend to get roasted on this forum but if there was ever an opportunity to do one it would seem EWR-JAC-BZN would be it and cover both cities with one flight. Or even do a triangle flight....EWR-JAC-BZN-EWR.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:04 am

Quoting Trucker (Reply 17):
I know tag ons tend to get roasted on this forum but if there was ever an opportunity to do one it would seem EWR-JAC-BZN would be it and cover both cities with one flight. Or even do a triangle flight....EWR-JAC-BZN-EWR.

I think that makes sense, too. The problem is that it kills the nonstop nature of the EWR service in one direction, so the itinerary couldn't be listed as nonstop, and you might lose customers who'd assume the stopover was a connection.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:52 am

Harrison Ford pedals his own plane out of KJAC, a Cessna 680, N6GU, here is a photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/7452271390/in/photostream
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:00 am

I think JAC would be better served as a nonstop from LGA as I have seen over the years the amount of passengers that continue to JAC after a LGA-DEN flight. However, I guess this is not possible due to that perimeter rule. Jackson is one of my favorite places and flights have been full this month.
 
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RE: UA Launches EWR-Jackson Hole

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:48 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 19):

Harrison Ford pedals his own plane out of KJAC, a Cessna 680, N6GU, here is a photo:

Wow! Thanks for posting that. I didn't know that his plane was quite this big! I didn't really expect some rinky-dinker single prop, maybe more of a smaller double prop - but this is a cool jet......