|Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):|
The new 2008 Canada-Philippines bilateral is very liberal. Philippine carriers are permitted to serve 3 cities in Canada of their choosing with no frequency restrictions. Fifth freedom service between Canada and the U.S. is permitted (except between YYZ and points in California) on 2 sectors and frequency on each 5th freedom sector is restricted to 4 flights a week (and not more than 50% of the capacity of the aircraft, calculated on an annual basis). Any changes to U.S. service is of course dependent on their current FAA Category 2 status being lifted.
Thanks for this piece of information. I think it would be impossible for a B77W to operate year round without payload issues on the MNL
route nonstop hence with no 5th freedom available via SFO
, it leaves serving YYZ
only as an alternative viable option.
There are some reality points one must address here as well:
1. None of these routes to be launched + the current long haul ones make a total "net profit" for PAL
2. Even in the future, they cannot under any circumstances as the main form of traffic is low yielding VFR
3. Why is PAL
looking at these routes when the annual market size and yields are higher on MNL
-KWI + MNL
along with lesser operating costs due to the lower flying distance involved
4. Isnt PAL
on the EU black list currently? If so then when will this be lifted?
Now with regards to the new EU routes in particular, if both FCO
are to be launched, I would speculate that it would be a tag on service i.e. MNL
(unfortunately) with a B77W operated 4 times per week. For CDG
, I would highly suggest that they operate the flight via KWI with 5th freedom rights (if granted) as there is good demand at decent yields on the KWI-CDG
sector considering no one currently operates it nonstop plus the local Kuwaitis and expats flying this route will get alcohol on board which KU
does not serve! Lastly, MNL
portion of this route will always be full hence no problem there.
though it is a more trickier issue. The market size to FCO
is 70,000 pax per year and to CDG
its 67,000. Rome will not be able to sustain a year round 4 weekly B77W operated terminator service, therefore an alternative option is to have a triangular service such as MNL
market size is 46,000 per year to MNL
) or operate MNL
four weekly with an A333 or B77W as you can then kill 2 birds with one stone.