|Quoting LuisKMIA (Reply 3):|
Wow! AM is basically unopposed in Mexico with the demise of MX, so such a large order makes sense.
Not true at all. They face huge competition domestically from Volaris, Interjet and Viva Aerobus; their ability to offer lower fares than AM
has resulted in them both building more demand and growing their aggregate market share. I would even say that these carriers (who fly a lot of point-to-point routes) are more aggressive competitors than MX
. That said, it is true AM
has benefited a lot from MX
's demise. There was not room for two full-service, dual-class carriers in Mexico.
has to compete with the aforementioned LCC's to some U.S. and Central American destinations, and, more importantly, with Canadian and U.S. carriers, as well as TA
It is not easy for AM
considering that their costs are much higher than the Mexican LCCs'. That said, AM
's management has done a great job by keeping costs as low as possible, growing intelligently and leveraging their partnerships with other carriers to do well internationally.
|Quoting na (Reply 4):|
ooks like they want to replace all 767s and 777s rather soon.
As many others have said, the 767ERs need to go NOW!!! I flew on one of the 762ERs from JFK
last month and the plane was okay for medium haul, but it really is unacceptable that a so-called world-class airline will use those birds for long haul flights. No PTVs in J, old and ratty interiors...
The 77Es have a lot of life in them, but I suppose that if AM
can get more efficient 789s with similar passenger capacity, additional cargo room and longer legs at a good price, then it is a no-brainer to replace them as well.
|Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):|
If they're getting them starting in 2013 they have to be 787-8s, receiving them so soon makes me wonder if some of them are the overweight aicraft that were previously supposed to be delivered to other carriers.
|Quoting tistpaa727 (Reply 13):|
Exactly what I was thinking. The 2013 deliveries are for the previous order.
has previous orders for 7(?) 787-800s via direct purchases and leases. These planes will begin to arrive in 2013 and have nothing to do with the new order. In this sense, AM
will operate both 788s as 767ER replacements, and 789s as 77E replacements and for growth.
|Quoting FF22DXB (Reply 21):|
MAD, GRU, NRT, PVG all those routes are a mix of 777 and 767
is flown with 767ERs only. MAD
are all-777 routes except when AM
adds extra frequencies to MAD
beyond the usual 7x weekly each.
|Quoting g500 (Reply 25):|
I read Aeromexico will fly direct MEX-NRT/PVG when the 787s arrive.
I think I remember that article or news report and that statement was qualified with "to the extent possible". I would imagine that the 789s are capable of MEX
nonstop, but I don't know for sure. Remember MEX
is 7,800 ft. above sea level, and keep in mind the headwinds, so a refueling stop might happen sometimes.
|Quoting jfk777 (Reply 26):|
AM has heavy use of their 777 and 767 to Asia, Brazil and Europe,
Don't forget SCL
(767ERs) and, more importantly, EZE
(almost all-767ERs and every now and then 77E). EZE
gets 10 weekly services from AM
, if not more.
Two were delivered by Boeing brand-new to AM
's specs. Two are ex-RG
birds and I think those were already a few years old when delivered. I suspect AM
did not fit the same amenities in J on the ex-RG
|Quoting Stitch (Reply 27):|
Some airlines who fly both the 737-700 and 737-800 have found that the trip costs between the two are so close, that the extra seats on the 737-800 are effectively "free". If you sell them, it's extra revenue. If you do not, then you're not losing anything.
As such, I could easily see Aeromexico not taking the 737-7.
I agree, AM
started flying 737-700W NGs, and then it realized it was better to operate -800s. It has been a while since AM
received its last -700. AM
is moving towards the -800s. I do not see the -7MAX in AM
|Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 28):|
Is it true AM's 777s really have 18.5" width, 34 inch pitch and 14 degrees of recline (according to seat guru)? I hope they configure these new 787s with this much comfort!
Not sure about the seat width or the recline degrees, but the coach cabin of the AM
77Es is indeed configured at 3-3-3 with 34 inch seat pitch. The seats are comfortable and the leg room is unusually generous. I love them,
I don't have any evidence but I suspect AM
will be tempted to fit 3-3-3 in the 787s instead of the more spacious 2-4-2 config. Hopefully the 34 inch pitch will remain!!!
Next flights: MEX-LAX AM 738, LAX-PVG DL 77L, SHA-PEK CA 789, PEK-PVG CA A332, PVG-ORD MU 77W, ORD-MEX AM 738