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Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:32 pm

Aeromexico have finally placed their aircraft order with Boeing... And a very nice one!  

From Reuters:

"(Reuters) - Mexico's largest airline Aeromexico on Wednesday placed an $11 billion order with Boeing (BA.N), in what the company said was the biggest aircraft investment by a Mexican airline in the country's history.

The order is for 90 737-8 planes and 10 Dreamliners, Aeromexico (AEROMEX.MX) said in a statement.

Aeromexico, which went public last year, said the Dreamliners will begin arriving in the summer of 2013 and the 737-8 aircraft will be delivered starting in 2018"


[Edited 2012-07-25 07:35:36]

Forgot the Link...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...exico-boeing-idUSBRE86O0XC20120725


[Edited 2012-07-25 07:38:51]
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:36 pm

Nice 787 order....do we know the mix (if any) of 788/9 and or if they took any 78-10 options?
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:36 pm

Ay carumba!

Good news for AM and Mexican aviation; are those 738 orders for the current 738 or the MAX, because it seems that first delivery falls very close to the EIS of the Max, which suggests (if the are the current model) that they'll be obsolete fairly soon after delivery.

Are all 90 firm, or does AM have the ability to convert at least some to MAX (or MEX?!) model.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:43 pm

Wow! AM is basically unopposed in Mexico with the demise of MX, so such a large order makes sense.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:53 pm

Looks like they want to replace all 767s and 777s rather soon.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:56 pm

Quoting mffoda (Thread starter):
Dreamliners will begin arriving in the summer of 2013
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 1):
....do we know the mix (if any) of 788/9 and or if they took any 78-10 options?

If they're getting them starting in 2013 they have to be 787-8s, receiving them so soon makes me wonder if some of them are the overweight aicraft that were previously supposed to be delivered to other carriers.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:00 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 2):
are those 738 orders for the current 738 or the MAX

WSJ has them as all MAX orders. And has the 787's as all 789's...
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:08 pm

Fantastic news for AM and Boeing. Good to see they ordered 10 789s. That will bring 787s on order to 17.

Quoting mffoda (Reply 6):

That should be correct. It was rumored the order was going to be for 70 planes at first. Seems like they might have got a good deal from Boeing to have added 20 more planes.

Hope they covert some of those 738 MAX orders to 739MAX.   
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:11 pm

Quoting mffoda (Reply 6):
WSJ has them as all MAX orders. And has the 787's as all 789's...

But as someone else has mentioned, WSJ also has them starting to deliver in summer 2013 which is impossible if they are 789. Either the EIS is wrong or the type is wrong in the story.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:17 pm

Quoting mffoda (Reply 6):
WSJ has them as all MAX orders. And has the 787's as all 789's...

Boeing confirmed in their tweeter account its 90 MAX.

Link on the rendering:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/7643911422/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/7643966824/


edit: 787 livery

[Edited 2012-07-25 08:17:57]
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Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:17 pm

This is great news! Felicitamos to AM!

The 762ERs do need to go.They are getting elderly and can't be fuel efficient at all for any of the routes they are flying.

I think some of the 90 MAX orders will be for the 737-7 as well as the 737-8. I can't see AM replacing the entire 73G/73Hs with all 737-8s! That doesn't make since. They need to be able to adjust capacity according to demand which they can't do with all 737-8s. I think a third of the order will be for 737-7s (30ish), 737-8s (50ish), and possibly 737-9s (10). I do think AM needs to have an a/c with a bit more capacity than the 737-8 along with the range.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:20 pm

Quoting Hmelawyer (Reply 8):
But as someone else has mentioned, WSJ also has them starting to deliver in summer 2013 which is impossible if they are 789. Either the EIS is wrong or the type is wrong in the story.



Is it not possible they are receiving their 787-8's they already have on order in 2013 and the 9's will already come later. As we aviation enthusiasts see far to often, a journalist might not know the difference between -8's or -9's and simply heard they are receiving 787's next year.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:27 pm

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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:58 pm

Quoting TeamInTheSky (Reply 11):
Is it not possible they are receiving their 787-8's they already have on order in 2013 and the 9's will already come later. As we aviation enthusiasts see far to often, a journalist might not know the difference between -8's or -9's and simply heard they are receiving 787's next year.

Exactly what I was thinking. The 2013 deliveries are for the previous order.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:29 pm

That's great news!!! I knew Boeing could win that order
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:48 pm

Wow. great order! Congrats to the airline and Boeing as well.  
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting mffoda (Thread starter):
The order is for 90 737-8 planes and 10 Dreamliners

Great news for both AM and Boeing!

Quoting na (Reply 4):
Looks like they want to replace all 767s and 777s rather soon.

Doesn't AM still have 777's on order? I think those will stay around for awhile.

As for the 767's, times almost up.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:50 pm

The press release clarifies a few points raised above:

Quote:

The commitment by Mexico’s largest airline includes up to 90 737 MAX 8s and 9s and ten 787s, worth $10.8 billion at average list price when all aircraft are firmed. Boeing looks forward to working with Aeroméxico to finalize the details, at which time the airplanes will be posted to the Boeing Orders & Deliveries website as a firm order.
Quoting kaitak (Reply 2):
are those 738 orders for the current 738 or the MAX

MAX 8 and MAX 9.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 2):
Are all 90 firm

Actually, the presser always uses the term "commitment" instead of order, and as above, says they'll be announced as firm via their orders web site.

Quoting mffoda (Reply 6):
And has the 787's as all 789's...

The presser consistently says 787 but does not give a model.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
If they're getting them starting in 2013 they have to be 787-8s, receiving them so soon makes me wonder if some of them are the overweight aicraft that were previously supposed to be delivered to other carriers.

The presser didn't give a date.

In any case, ANA and JAL have said even the early 787s are a huge leap over the 767.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:04 pm

Quoting na (Reply 4):
Quoting na (Reply 4):
Looks like they want to replace all 767s and 777s rather soon.

Those 777's aren't old at all... maybe a few from the 90's? I would sell them to someone like UA or DL or something, could come in handy for someone like UA or DL in this case. The 762's are old.. those have to go along with US'a 762's...
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:13 pm

Great news for AM! Now we need a new airport at MEX.
 
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Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:18 pm

AM was/is using the 777 on which routes mostly?
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:22 pm

Quoting Tupolev160 (Reply 20):
AM was/is using the 777 on which routes mostly?

MAD, GRU, NRT, PVG all those routes are a mix of 777 and 767
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:46 pm

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 16):

There are no 777s on order. AM has 738s on order.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:51 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
I think some of the 90 MAX orders will be for the 737-7 as well as the 737-8. I can't see AM replacing the entire 73G/73Hs with all 737-8s!

Agreed. Plus, Boeing is no doubt looking hard for a 737-7 launch customer and will no doubt discount prices for that carrier to assure the market the -7 is a go.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:03 pm

Looks like they are getting 787-9s according to this press release from Grupo Aeromexico.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/grupo-...es-most-significant-142300146.html
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:03 pm

I read Aeromexico will fly direct MEX-NRT/PVG when the 787s arrive. Good to see them bypassing that annoying stop at TIJ due to MEX's altitude

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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:05 pm

Quoting na (Reply 4):
Looks like they want to replace all 767s and 777s rather soon.

AM has heavy use of their 777 and 767 to Asia, Brazil and Europe, while the 767 are probably a year or two from their next owners the 777 are fairly new to AM in 2004/2005. 787 will allow nonstops to Tokyo from Mexico City. Its probably AM's goal to have only a 787 long haul fleet, that is several years away.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:10 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
I think some of the 90 MAX orders will be for the 737-7 as well as the 737-8. I can't see AM replacing the entire 73G/73Hs with all 737-8s! That doesn't make since. They need to be able to adjust capacity according to demand which they can't do with all 737-8s.

Some airlines who fly both the 737-700 and 737-800 have found that the trip costs between the two are so close, that the extra seats on the 737-800 are effectively "free". If you sell them, it's extra revenue. If you do not, then you're not losing anything.

As such, I could easily see Aeromexico not taking the 737-7.



Quoting yyz717 (Reply 23):
Plus, Boeing is no doubt looking hard for a 737-7 launch customer and will no doubt discount prices for that carrier to assure the market the -7 is a go.

Boeing makes more money on the 737-8, so they have no real incentive to discount the 737-7 to move it.

[Edited 2012-07-25 11:11:01]
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:13 pm

Is it true AM's 777s really have 18.5" width, 34 inch pitch and 14 degrees of recline (according to seat guru)? I hope they configure these new 787s with this much comfort!
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Quoting MJBATC12 (Reply 18):
Those 777's aren't old at all... maybe a few from the 90's? I would sell them to someone like UA or DL or something, could come in handy for someone like UA or DL in this case. The 762's are old.. those have to go along with US'a 762's...

Yeah those 777s were delivered in mid 2000's so relatively young. They are leased though so I would imagine that the lessor will find them a home should Aeromexico no longer want them. I don't know about United but Delta has a habit of buying second hand aircraft, though they are leasing the 717s so who knows.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:56 pm

From the Boeing news release (note that the engine cowlings on the 787 are all white):

  

AM will leverage this new platform comprised essentially by only two aircraft types, providing better operating economics and passenger comfort.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 16):
As for the 767's, times almost up

Maybe the -200's,but the -300's recently recieved winglets.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:57 pm

Quoting mpdpilot (Reply 29):
Quoting mpdpilot (Reply 29):
Yeah those 777s were delivered in mid 2000's so relatively young. They are leased though so I would imagine that the lessor will find them a home should Aeromexico no longer want them. I don't know about United but Delta has a habit of buying second hand aircraft, though they are leasing the 717s so who knows.

Yeah I imagine that hopefully Delta will buy them to replace the retiring B763A's? If they can fill those, that will be a good profit on some shorter route, or longer, doesn't matter. But definitely I see Delta buying/leasing them.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:01 pm

Wow. Quite a year so far. Nice order.   
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:07 pm

Quoting MJBATC12 (Reply 32):
Yeah I imagine that hopefully Delta will buy them to replace the retiring B763A's? If they can fill those, that will be a good profit on some shorter route, or longer, doesn't matter. But definitely I see Delta buying/leasing them.

I kind of doubt that DL will take 777s to replace 767-300s. More likely they would be used on routes where capacity and range are needed. Perhaps replacing some 764 to South America so that they can be used across the Atlantic. But this is all speculation as I don't think Delta needs a lot of International capacity right now. Delta would need to get a smoking deal to make this worth their while.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:13 pm

Quoting mpdpilot (Reply 34):
I kind of doubt that DL will take 777s to replace 767-300s. More likely they would be used on routes where capacity and range are needed. Perhaps replacing some 764 to South America so that they can be used across the Atlantic. But this is all speculation as I don't think Delta needs a lot of International capacity right now. Delta would need to get a smoking deal to make this worth their while.

Yeah true there on the deal part. But still, if you want to run 777's between let's say ATL and LAX, or JFK, it would be nearly ideal because you could fill the demand, and more profit as the outcome. Do a route strategy similar to AA, fly 772's between MIA and LAX and occasically DFW, but that plane continues so some destination unknown (NRT,FRA to name a few).

We'll see.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:17 pm

Quoting mffoda (Reply 6):
WSJ has them as all MAX orders. And has the 787's as all 789's...

IIRC, Doesn't AM have two 788's on order already?
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:25 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 36):
IIRC, Doesn't AM have two 788's on order already?

2 788s ordered from Boeing and seemingly 7 788s leased from ILFC.

The 10 789s announced today are on top of the previous orders and leases.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:48 pm

Quoting LuisKMIA (Reply 3):
Wow! AM is basically unopposed in Mexico with the demise of MX, so such a large order makes sense.

Not true at all. They face huge competition domestically from Volaris, Interjet and Viva Aerobus; their ability to offer lower fares than AM has resulted in them both building more demand and growing their aggregate market share. I would even say that these carriers (who fly a lot of point-to-point routes) are more aggressive competitors than MX. That said, it is true AM has benefited a lot from MX's demise. There was not room for two full-service, dual-class carriers in Mexico.

Internationally, AM has to compete with the aforementioned LCC's to some U.S. and Central American destinations, and, more importantly, with Canadian and U.S. carriers, as well as TA, LA, AV, JJ, IB and AF.

It is not easy for AM considering that their costs are much higher than the Mexican LCCs'. That said, AM's management has done a great job by keeping costs as low as possible, growing intelligently and leveraging their partnerships with other carriers to do well internationally.

Quoting na (Reply 4):
ooks like they want to replace all 767s and 777s rather soon.

As many others have said, the 767ERs need to go NOW!!! I flew on one of the 762ERs from JFK to MEX last month and the plane was okay for medium haul, but it really is unacceptable that a so-called world-class airline will use those birds for long haul flights. No PTVs in J, old and ratty interiors...

The 77Es have a lot of life in them, but I suppose that if AM can get more efficient 789s with similar passenger capacity, additional cargo room and longer legs at a good price, then it is a no-brainer to replace them as well.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
If they're getting them starting in 2013 they have to be 787-8s, receiving them so soon makes me wonder if some of them are the overweight aicraft that were previously supposed to be delivered to other carriers.

Look:

Quoting tistpaa727 (Reply 13):
Exactly what I was thinking. The 2013 deliveries are for the previous order.

AM has previous orders for 7(?) 787-800s via direct purchases and leases. These planes will begin to arrive in 2013 and have nothing to do with the new order. In this sense, AM will operate both 788s as 767ER replacements, and 789s as 77E replacements and for growth.

Quoting FF22DXB (Reply 21):
MAD, GRU, NRT, PVG all those routes are a mix of 777 and 767

NRT is flown with 767ERs only. MAD, GRU and PVG are all-777 routes except when AM adds extra frequencies to MAD and GRU beyond the usual 7x weekly each.

Quoting g500 (Reply 25):

I read Aeromexico will fly direct MEX-NRT/PVG when the 787s arrive.

I think I remember that article or news report and that statement was qualified with "to the extent possible". I would imagine that the 789s are capable of MEX-PVG nonstop, but I don't know for sure. Remember MEX is 7,800 ft. above sea level, and keep in mind the headwinds, so a refueling stop might happen sometimes.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 26):
AM has heavy use of their 777 and 767 to Asia, Brazil and Europe,

Don't forget SCL (767ERs) and, more importantly, EZE (almost all-767ERs and every now and then 77E). EZE gets 10 weekly services from AM, if not more.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 26):
The 777 are fairly new to AM in 2004/2005.

Two were delivered by Boeing brand-new to AM's specs. Two are ex-RG birds and I think those were already a few years old when delivered. I suspect AM did not fit the same amenities in J on the ex-RG birds.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 27):
Some airlines who fly both the 737-700 and 737-800 have found that the trip costs between the two are so close, that the extra seats on the 737-800 are effectively "free". If you sell them, it's extra revenue. If you do not, then you're not losing anything.

As such, I could easily see Aeromexico not taking the 737-7.

I agree, AM started flying 737-700W NGs, and then it realized it was better to operate -800s. It has been a while since AM received its last -700. AM is moving towards the -800s. I do not see the -7MAX in AM's fleet.

Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 28):
Is it true AM's 777s really have 18.5" width, 34 inch pitch and 14 degrees of recline (according to seat guru)? I hope they configure these new 787s with this much comfort!

Not sure about the seat width or the recline degrees, but the coach cabin of the AM 77Es is indeed configured at 3-3-3 with 34 inch seat pitch. The seats are comfortable and the leg room is unusually generous. I love them,

I don't have any evidence but I suspect AM will be tempted to fit 3-3-3 in the 787s instead of the more spacious 2-4-2 config. Hopefully the 34 inch pitch will remain!!!
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 7):
Seems like they might have got a good deal from Boeing to have added 20 more planes.

Two key words in this release:

"a commitment by Aeromexico to purchase up to 100 single- and twin-aisle airplanes"
"includes up to 90 737 MAX 8s and 9s"

Unfortunately, the press release is rather vague. But I take that to include an unspecified number of options.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 37):
2 788s ordered from Boeing and seemingly 7 788s leased from ILFC.

They have 5 leased from ILFC unless they have leased 2 additional ones since late March. With the 2 previously ordered and the 10 new orders, that gives a total of 17.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 38):
Two were delivered by Boeing brand-new to AM's specs. Two are ex-RG birds and I think those were already a few years old when delivered. I suspect AM did not fit the same amenities in J on the ex-RG birds.

The 2 ex-RG planes were originally built in 2001, with the two new builds being delivered in 2006. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon especially since it looks like AM is looking towards a major international expansion based on the number of 787 they got on order vs their current fleet.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 40):
They have 5 leased from ILFC unless they have leased 2 additional ones since late March. With the 2 previously ordered and the 10 new orders, that gives a total of 17.

Yes, it was also my understanding that AM was going to receive seven -800s, some from Boeing and some from ILFC. The first bird of the 788 batch should arrive some time in 2013!

Quoting Polot (Reply 40):
The 2 ex-RG planes were originally built in 2001, with the two new builds being delivered in 2006. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon especially since it looks like AM is looking towards a major international expansion based on the number of 787 they got on order vs their current fleet.

I agree. The 77Es will start leaving the fleet only as the 789 start arriving. So, in my opinion, you can expect to see the four 77Es leave once AM has received four 789s.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:13 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
I think some of the 90 MAX orders will be for the 737-7 as well as the 737-8

The Boeing press release says the 737 order is split between the 737-8 and 737-9.

Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 24):
Looks like they are getting 787-9s according to this press release from Grupo Aeromexico.

I wouldn't rely to much on this article -- at one point it says AM has a number of 707-8NGs on order. I've never heard of an aircraft with that designation
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:46 pm

Does this order qualify as one of the largest ever in the history of Latin american commercial aviation, both in monetary amount and in quantity by a single airline?
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:57 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 43):
Does this order qualify as one of the largest ever in the history of Latin american commercial aviation, both in monetary amount and in quantity by a single airline?

I believe this is the largest single order. GOL and TAM have had more airplanes on order than this single order, but they were ordered incrementally.

This is by far the largest order in Mexican aviation.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:02 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 44):
I believe this is the largest single order. GOL and TAM have had more airplanes on order than this single order, but they were ordered incrementally.

Well, then. This is really historic after all.
 
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:22 am

This is wonderful news for everyone in Mexican aviation, indeed. The country deserves an updated and true world class industry. Finally, an airline is making a move that will be gradually closing the gap between stagnation and modernization in Mexico.

Now, in regards to fleet expansion, we will also see additional orders for ERJs ? Naturally, the regional 100 seater market will also continue growing, steadily and substantially. What does Aeroméxico has in mind in this regard ?

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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:54 am

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):

Well AeroMexico is replacing their 40 Embraer 145 with E170 (3 ex-midwest were delivered this month) and still 12 new E190 comming to the fleet. S the 737-7 might not bee needed after all.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:55 am

Great news!!! Glad finally it was announced, now let's hope it's confirmed by AM and Boeing, as stated above:

Quoting flood (Reply 39):
Two key words in this release:

"a commitment by Aeromexico to purchase up to 100 single- and twin-aisle airplanes"
"includes up to 90 737 MAX 8s and 9s"
Quoting XA744 (Reply 46):
we will also see additional orders for ERJs ?

Might sound a little confusing the way you say it, I'm assuming you refer to the E Jets (E170/190).
From what I read in other forums the plan is to reduce if not to eliminate the ERJ (E145) fleet in favor of the E170.
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RE: Aeromexico Places Historic $11 Billion Order

Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:05 am

So the fleet will look like 789, 788, 739, 738, E190, E170, with the possibility of the 787-10? Nice.

With (up to) 20 787's in the future AM fleet, I wonder if there are any plans for routes to Australia/New Zealand. Make MEX another Skyteam hub for ports into North America.
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