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European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:28 pm

I've noticed several European airlines have one or two DC3s that they keep in excellent condition. Lufthansa even has a Junker. What exactly do they do with those airplanes? do they take people up for a ride or is it just for show?



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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:32 pm

These planes are used for sightseeing flights with passengers. Lufthansa also has a Lockheed Starliner that is currently being restored and will be better then new when it will finally be finished
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:37 pm

The Martinair and KLM painted DC-3 actually belong to the Dutch Dakota Association rather then the respective airlines. KLM does use the KLM painted one a lot though for promotional flights etc.

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:28 pm

SK and Douglas was tight for many decades, from the DC-3 to DC-10
"Daisy" (DC-3) flies from BMA out over the Baltic n back.

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting columba (Reply 1):
Lufthansa also has a Lockheed Starliner that is currently being restored and will be better then new when it will finally be finished

Yeah, if they ever finish it! The plan is not just to fly around around Berlin (like the Ju-52) but operate full-on "air cruise" holidays like FRA-JNB and take a week to get there with beyond-first class service. Alas they have stripped the aeroplane (or is it TWO aeroplanes to make ONE?) down so much, they don't know how to put them back together. There's more to it than that but they are in trouble. To give you an idea, the plan includes a glass cockpit. It's way more than a rebuild.

I wish them well and hope it comes to fruition, but the project is "troubled" - let us say. Anyone know more?
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:02 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 4):
Yeah, if they ever finish it! The plan is not just to fly around around Berlin (like the Ju-52) but operate full-on "air cruise" holidays like FRA-JNB and take a week to get there with beyond-first class service

WOW..... FRA-JNB in a constellation, that sounds fun (and expensive for the ticket buyer)

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 2):
KLM does use the KLM painted one a lot though for promotional flights etc.

thanks, that's what I thought
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:03 pm

that Icelandair DC3 looks sharp. Those colors suit that DC3
 
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Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:20 pm

Here's a link to the flying programme and booking tool for Lufthansa's Ju52 "Tante Ju' ("Auntie Ju"):

http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/index.php

All being well, I'll be flying on her in October....

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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:12 pm

Quoting pegasus1 (Reply 7):
Here's a link to the flying programme and booking tool for Lufthansa's Ju52 "Tante Ju' ("Auntie Ju"):

http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/index.php

All being well, I'll be flying on her in October....

I'll definetly check it out if i ever do a trip to Berlin..

flying in a Junkers would be something I'd never forget
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:28 pm

Quoting g500 (Reply 8):
I'll definetly check it out if i ever do a trip to Berlin..

flying in a Junkers would be something I'd never forget

Actually the Junkers is based in HAM, but flying around Germany.

Quoting pegasus1 (Reply 7):
Here's a link to the flying programme and booking tool for Lufthansa's Ju52 "Tante Ju' ("Auntie Ju"):

http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/index.php

Furthermore there you'll have a overview about all projects, they are also restoring a Focke-Wulf FW 200, but this aircraft will never fly again.
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:04 pm

Perfect topic!

for the flight program of the KLM DC-3 www.dutchdakota.nl
They are also picking up on www.facebook.com/DDAclassicairlines

KLM has send the ex Royal Dutch Family DC-3 PH-PBA on promotional tours to Linkoping, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Basle, Milano Linate, Rome FCO and Urbe, Venetie, Nurnberg, Frankfurt and more is to come for sure!
The DDA is actually looking for a new sponsor for the DC-3 DDZ and DC-4 PH-DDS.

The Dutch DC-3s are afaik the only ones flying on an AOC in Europe; meaning they operate like an airline and are allowed to carry passengers instead of members of a foundation.
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:31 pm

Looks like KLM (or the Dutch) like to hang on to those old beauties. They also have a DC-2


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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:36 pm

The Ju is here in Mainz often. An absolute great sound, safe to spot even if there are clouds just by the unique sound.
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:37 pm

Thanks for the schedule - wow - it makes more cycles than a new A380...
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:37 am

Other than the Lufthansa Ju-52, I don't think any of those aircraft are owned or operated by the airline whose livery is worn. It is more likely a case of their operators being permitted to carry the livery and some financial support or sponsorship being given too, in some cases.
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:41 pm

I flew on D-AQUI (Lufthansa's Ju52) about 15 years ago while she was visiting GLA. The flight, a birthday present from my wife, nearly didn't happen because of fog but eventually it cleared sufficiently for a slightly curtailed trip. It was a bit like being in a flying Pullman railway carriage and when we touched down at the end the steward announced with great solemnity "Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry to say you have to get off". It was a wonderful experience and if you get the chance grab it with both hands!
 
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:41 pm

The FI one is mostly used for airshows. It was bought from the state in 2006 by the club "Thristavinafelagid" (Friends of DC3s Association) and painted in FI colours. I've actually flown it once! So much fun. 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:23 pm

Doesn't DL still have and fly this baby............?????

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...d=1e30b7b47f53e72fd243eac805ce0133

AA has this one, too. Thier DC-3s had the passenger loading door on the right side of the air

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Ameri...d=c2b01a81ab5ca434cb073591f792e14b

Sorry, I don't know how to post pictures, perhaps someone else can.
 
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:52 pm

I have seen that AA DC3, it is truly a beauty... Flew into Dulles for some museum thing

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Sorry, I don't know how to post pictures, perhaps someone else can.

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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:24 pm

The KLM DC-3 has some appearances scheduled in Germany as well; Dusseldorf, Egelsbach and Munster.
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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:16 pm

Quoting larspl (Reply 19):
The KLM DC-3 has some appearances scheduled in Germany as well; Dusseldorf, Egelsbach and Munster.

I looked at the history of the KLM DC3, it used be painted in Air France's colors. WOW it looks just as sharp as the KLM livery


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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:25 pm

Indeed, before the current liveries from the 60ties, she was painted in Retro Airfrance on one side and Retro KLM on the other side.
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:36 pm

Quoting larspl (Reply 21):
Indeed, before the current liveries from the 60ties, she was painted in Retro Airfrance on one side and Retro KLM on the other side.

Can see where the two liveries met on the nose.


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Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:07 am

There's a Finnish one too, Aero (ex-AY) DC-3 "Skytrooper", taken care by a DC-3 club.


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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:55 am

i'm clearly screwing up this picture adding thing.. have to get back later.

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Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:17 pm

The SR DC3 was in GRO last week,. absolutely beautiful, & a big surprise!
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:23 pm

as far as the America's go, we'got some beauties as well, courtesy of TWA


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RE: European Airlines- DC3s & Junkers

Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:39 pm

In MUC we also have a visitors park where some nice old ladies are parked:


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