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BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:10 am

Just a short news film about the increased traffic for the Olympics, any Air Netters on there?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19045365
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:31 am

You beat me on this one. I was about the post the same thread  

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:38 am

What a load of nonsense LHR has had ZERO increase in flight and NO interesting visitors (Of an alloy persuasion) just the normal daily schedules.

All interesting and/or unusual flights (as is well know) are operating into STN/LTN/FAB/SEN , Biggin Hill and Cranfield.
Even Oxford and Manchester have had more exotic movements !
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:03 am

The nonsense some of the spotters are coming out with re ops - deary me. The pilot varies how far along the runway he goes goes before he takes off? LOL

I wonder if any of those interviewed are members here? Got to be surely?

Does make me hanker for a day out on Mytle Ave though!
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:10 am

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 3):

I'm forever causing chaos when I cycle from Manhattan beach to Santa Monica. (eyes everywhere but on the path)

Watching those big'uns roar out over the Pacific is the best ! (for me anyway)
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:26 am

Really nice clip. I was out at LHR a few Sundays ago and wondered why I don't do this every weekend!

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 2):
LHR has had ZERO increase in flight and NO interesting visitors

Possibly true but it's one of the busiest airports in the world and the unchallenged champion for airlines from every corner of the world, who needs an increase in flights when a random fifteen minute sample brings MEA, TAM, SAA, JAL and QANTAS? And the homebase airline has 57 Boeing 747s; and there's 10 A380s every day from four different airlines. And there have been some Olympic movements, even my non-spotter pilot buddies at BA were texting me about the Rossiya Ilyushin Il-62 a week or two back.

Quoting ChazPilot (Reply 1):
"'cuse me a minute - big one coming in!"

Love it!
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:38 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 5):
I was out at LHR a few Sundays ago and wondered why I don't do this every weekend!

Indeed its one thing I miss about not living in West London anymore. Used to often take trips to LHR . These days Im either heading right away from the Airport to see Family having flown in from somewhere or in transit so dont get the chance anymore. Must set some time aside to visit again in future.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:42 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 5):
And there have been some Olympic movements, even my non-spotter pilot buddies at BA were texting me about the Rossiya Ilyushin Il-62 a week or two back.

That IL62 visit was several weeks ago and NOT Stratford games related. Was Enroute to The US on other business (Certain activities in the Middle East )

As a photographic point Myrtle is great but when youv'e been there a few times its really tedious and repetitive.

Again the BBC were using it to Hype LHR as the Olympic airport. Traffic is not up through passenger numbers have been up 2% at times.

Unless delays you won't see QF/JJ/SA and JL in time same timeframe on the runways.

[Edited 2012-07-31 04:46:40]

[Edited 2012-07-31 04:47:30]
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:47 am

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 7):
That IL62 visit was several weeks ago and NOT Stratford games related. Was Enroute to The US on other business (certain activities in the Middle East)

This is true - but I don't really care why they're here, as long as they keep coming back!

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 7):
As a photographic point Myrtle is great but when youv'e been there a few times its really tedious and repetitive.

Repetitive in the sense that there are constantly planes landing from all four corners of the earth. If the repetition is a bit much, perhaps I could recommend Newquay or Norwich?
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:52 am

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 7):
As a photographic point Myrtle is great but when youv'e been there a few times its really tedious and repetitive.

I find that hard to fathom to be honest. There is so much variety at LHR .
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:54 am

There have been a couple of 'interesting' visitors, including a azal B767, otherwise movements are down as non-scheds are banned and schedules have been reduced for the month.

Unfortunately the piece also highlights another thing, '..dozens of middle aged men are sitting in a row'. It emphasizes the point that 'spotting' was a thing for the youth of the 60's and 70's and it is noticeable when visiting 'events' such as Stansted last week that ninety percent of enthusiasts these days are of that era. The hobby will eventually fade out completely, which will not upset the authorities too much!
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:55 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
Norwich?

Norwich can be quite interesting midweek some nice looking aircraft around paint shops and over flying F15s out of Lakenheath,and helicopters.

LHR was far better forty years ago me thinks.

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:04 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
The hobby will eventually fade out completely

- Agreed, and a great shame that will be.
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:12 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
Unfortunately the piece also highlights another thing, '..dozens of middle aged men are sitting in a row'.

But one day we will all be middle aged Men and may be sitting there    
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:23 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
'spotting' was a thing for the youth of the 60's and 70's

Funny that, being an "air force brat", I have been an aviation enthusiast my whole life but only a keen Av photographer the last 7-8 years. There is no hiding the fact I am one of those 'middle aged men", grey hair and date on drivers licence leave no doubt, but I rarely find my self "sitting in a row" with others of similar ilk.. maybe just my differemt slant on photography finds me in different places.

Search Youtube - Sydney Airport and great outdoors, you will see me with others.. mostly younger though!!

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:34 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
Unfortunately the piece also highlights another thing, '..dozens of middle aged men are sitting in a row'. It emphasizes the point that 'spotting' was a thing for the youth of the 60's and 70's and it is noticeable when visiting 'events' such as Stansted last week that ninety percent of enthusiasts these days are of that era. The hobby will eventually fade out completely, which will not upset the authorities too much!

Speaking as one who knows that particular spot way too well, that's misleading. It depends when you go, on a weekend I have seen many young men with thousands of pounds worth of camera gear from all over the world there. However of you go on a midweek afternoon, frankly most of us are at work which leaves a certain demographic in place. I was convinced spotting would die out when I started in 1990, it didn't, it evolved into something else with the coming of the digital SLR. Many of us still have our notebooks though. One thing worth mentioning, the BBC went on a quiet day!

I also think the reason that it's still here is that people actually take it up / get back into it as they get older. The majority have been of a certain age for at least twenty years, that's not a sign of something dying out.

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 11):
LHR was far better forty years ago me thinks.

Well with film in expensive multiples of 36 and the whole airfield contaminated by Perry Oaks I think some things are much better. I for one would have no wish to fly in 1972, a golden era when you were trapped with a majority of mahogany faced people smoking lethal fumes around you. Mind you if I had my TARDIS back in working order and I could take my digital Nikon and scanner, that would be a holiday and half.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:00 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 15):
. I for one would have no wish to fly in 1972, a golden era when you were trapped with a majority of mahogany faced people smoking lethal fumes around you

Oh I don't know.

Throw in a highball and it sounds pretty wonderful to me.

(not that I smoke anymore...but I still miss it at times)

A suntan, a scotch and dry, a smoke and a first class seat. Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton laughing in the next row.

Now that's glamour.
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:37 pm

What's a highball? I genuinely hated smoking in public, it baffled me how it was different from farting as the stench was equally terrible.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:53 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 17):
What's a highball?

oh it's just a spirit with a mixer.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 17):
it baffled me how it was different from farting as the stench was equally terrible.

As crew I was once farted (by accident I hasten to add) in the middle of the economy section of a 747 whilst retrieving a tray from the bottom far end of the cart.

In typical BA style I carried on regardless with the brightest blush ever.

One of the passengers cried out 'ole' (as in the Spanish) much to everyone's amusement.

Just aswell I'd been dishing out doubles that day I can tell you.

Happy memories.

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:21 pm

Looking forward to my next trip to Myrtle. Not sure about it getting tedious, always something new for me. I guess if you went there every week it may get dull?
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
Repetitive in the sense that there are constantly planes landing from all four corners of the earth. If the repetition is a bit much, perhaps I could recommend Newquay or Norwich?

It's all relative, Heathrow regulars who are fed up with constant main line pax Boeings and Airbuses hanker for a bit of variety like that found at Amsterdam or Frankfurt with their large numbers of freighters and smaller airlines/types.

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:20 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
Unfortunately the piece also highlights another thing, '..dozens of middle aged men are sitting in a row'. It emphasizes the point that 'spotting' was a thing for the youth of the 60's and 70's

I would agree with this....my kids barely even glance up when an aircraft goes overhead at 2-3000 ft anymore, (under the flightpath for a small airport) while I am still keeping part of my awareness pointed up most of the time.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:06 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 15):
Well with film in expensive multiples of 36 and the whole airfield contaminated by Perry Oaks I think some things are much better. I for one would have no wish to fly in 1972

I don't quite recall recall 1972, but from the late 70's (I went to school right near LHR), the varied aircraft configs was so much more than now. It's just big wing mounted twin, smaller wing mounted twin, 747's and A380's
Then, tri-jets big and small, rear mounted engines big and small, still got some turboprops, early generation jets, Concorde - lessons stopped for that - and the VC-10.
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:34 pm

Is there easy parking at this location anyone know?
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:38 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 18):
One of the passengers cried out 'ole' (as in the Spanish) much to everyone's amusement.

Amazing tale, worth a laugh!

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 19):
Not sure about it getting tedious, always something new for me. I guess if you went there every week it may get dull?

Perhaps, although having lived right next to a major airport for two years (my flat's balcony/windows faced the 24's at LAX) I never grew tired of the sights and sounds of the airport. True, LAX "might" offer a bit more variety as no single carrier dominates but the constant landing/take-off of aircraft didn't get old.

I shall be visiting Myrtle Ave next month for the first time...looking forward to a couple of exciting hours of boredom!  
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:40 pm

This thread brings back lots of fond memories of my weekly spotting/photo days out at LHR!

I lived and studied in London from 2004-2007 (I studied at King's College London). Almost every Saturday (if the weather was nice) I would take the tube from Russell Square all the way out to Hatton Cross, then walk to Myrtle Avenue (if 27L was for arrivals) or the spot near 27R if that was taking arrivals, or take a bus to the spot near 9L. I always had a camera with me. Most of the time I used a Nikon N65 SLR; it gave me beautiful pictures. When I finally went digital (with a Fujifilm Finepix S5600), I got beautiful shots with that. In fact four of my shots with the S5600 were accepted onto the A.net photo database in 2006--all shot at LHR, and those included a Bahrain Amiri Royal Flight 744 and 747SP, an AA 777, and an EVA 773.

I was there when the first A380 landed at LHR in 2006 on a test run, as well as when the 777-200LR (?) Worldliner made its stop at LHR on its world tour.

My favourite visitors to LHR were the 747SPs, the royal 747 visitors, Russian-made planes, rare visitors, and monumental first arrivals (such as the Worldliner and the first A380 landing).

I got to know many guys there on Myrtle Avenue (including one or two A.netters).

I still have a box full of prints from LHR as well as MAN and some other UK airports.

If I ever move back to London in future, I will be frequenting LHR once again!

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting goosebayguy (Reply 23):

Is there easy parking at this location anyone know?

I usually park along the main road (cant remember the name of it) at the top of Myrtle Avenue - Not the A30, the one that you turn into Myrtle Avenue from and haven't had any problems. Theres no yellow lines so should be fine. If not, then theres a sports club with a car park just down the road, although as i've said i've always been fine along the road. I've seen others park along there too.
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:39 pm

Many thanks sounds a great spot.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 12):

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
The hobby will eventually fade out completely

- Agreed, and a great shame that will be.

I don't see that. There may not as many of us, but I have been at the Petrol Canada station on Airport road by YYZ and there are certainly plenty of us out there on Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. These are the days of the A380 arrival.
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:55 pm

I never liked taking photos of planes in the air, always found it very boring to look at afterwards with nothing going on in the background. I was tiny when the spectators at LHR closed and havent really been up there since. Luton is my home and I cant complain with the views from the field/crash gate.. doesnt get much better then that besides maybe St Maarten. Gotta be into viewing bizjets though otherwise it sure can get dull fast.

Moving on from photography to video now maybe it will seem more interesting again.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:03 pm

I did find the parking problems, and urinating against fences a concern.

If spotters agravate the locals, then we increase the chance that they will call the Police to move us on.
 
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:01 pm

Hope to be there on the 27th next month with my camera as i transit thru London. Its a great little area as long as 27L is used for landings!
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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:22 am

I started spotting at Myrtle Avenue November 1st 2010, i have over 30 images accepted on a.net!! I started spotting as soon as i got my drivers licence when i was 17! I am now 19 living in florida training to become a commercial airline pilot.

Check out my LHR pics on airliners!

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...rt_order=photo_id+desc&thumbnails=

Cheers

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RE: BBC With Spotters @ LHR - Myrtle Ave.

Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:03 am

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 10):
Unfortunately the piece also highlights another thing, '..dozens of middle aged men are sitting in a row'. It emphasizes the point that 'spotting' was a thing for the youth of the 60's and 70's and it is noticeable when visiting 'events' such as Stansted last week that ninety percent of enthusiasts these days are of that era. The hobby will eventually fade out completely, which will not upset the authorities too much!

I'm of that era and I have to say I lost interest when everything started looking the same. Then there was variety, Viscount, Vanguard, 707, DC-8, VC10, IL-18, IL-62, BAC One-Eleven, Concorde, TU-154 and so on.

Now it is generally a wide body with two engines or a narrow body with two engines (a few exceptions that slowly disappearing with the exception of the 380)

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