Jackbr
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Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:17 am

What are the current routes operated by DL 744s?

I'm also interested to know what PMDL FAs think of the 747!
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:21 pm

This week, the following routes are flown with 744s:
ATL-NRT
DTW-NGO-MNL
DTW-NRT
HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT
JFK-NRT-MNL
JFK-TLV
NRT-TPE
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:37 pm

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):

I'm also interested to know what PMDL FAs think of the 747!

Big improvement with the recent mods. Still no galley refrigeration though. Reliability is questionable. Can only speak for NRT-JFK-TLV routes.
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:47 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 1):
NRT-TPE

Where does this flight originate from?
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:15 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Where does this flight originate from?

Easy peasy to look up the flight in the timetable, then google the airline/flight number or enter it into flightaware for the full routing. DL275 flies DTW-NRT-TPE.
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:30 pm

Fly regular as TLV / LLBG), Israel">LOD F268/F269 JFK-TLV-JFK always loved the 747 and now that we fly with the up graded 747 its even
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:40 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Where does this flight originate from?

Easy peasy to look up the flight in the timetable, then google the airline/flight number or enter it into flightaware for the full routing. DL275 flies DTW-NRT-TPE.

Even though they share the same flight number, the aircraft operating NRT-TPE is usually not the same aircraft as the one doing DTW-NRT. NRT-TPE has been using the 74S (refurbished 744 with flat beds) whereas DTW-NRT still uses the 'old' 744. The NRT-TPE 74S comes either from JFK, ATL, or HNL.
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:38 pm

Quoting panamair (Reply 6):
Even though they share the same flight number, the aircraft operating NRT-TPE is usually not the same aircraft as the one doing DTW-NRT.

Good point. The question I was responding to wasn't clear on which piece of information was being asked, which is why I spelled out how it could be obtained on one's own if that was what was being asked.
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:00 pm

We filter out flights with equipment changes in our database at ch-aviation, so I assume that is why I did not even see the DTW-NRT-TPE routing when running the report. Delta has it filed with an equipment change in their schedule data as well even though it is the same aircraft type (744) on both legs with the same flight number.
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:09 pm

Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:16 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 9):

Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.

That is correct, today JFK-TLV is the only transatlantic route to use a 744.

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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:58 pm

Quoting Viper911 (Reply 10):
That is correct, today JFK-TLV is the only transatlantic route to use a 744.

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Quoting B747forever (Reply 9):
Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.

True, in the past NW used to send them on certain routes, but just like DL, not every season, they came and wen't so to say. They still use them on a rare base as a substitute, but im sure we will see them back in the future.
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:59 pm

So no 747s out of MSP or LAX anymore?
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:20 pm

Looks like MSP-NRT and LAX-NRT are with 777s (alternating between 777 and 777LR) and LAX-HND is with a Airbus A330-200.
NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:42 am

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 12):

LAX was on and off earlier this year. Lot of talk about two other citys this winter but I'll believe it when I see it Plus don't forget the gov stuff that will start again this fall.
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:06 am

I love the plane...haven't been on it for a while, but it works well and the 74S is a dream to work!
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:38 am

Quoting panamair (Reply 6):
The NRT-TPE 74S comes either from JFK, ATL, or HNL.

Does DL operate an upgraded 74S on the HNL-NRT run? I would thing that a non-upgraded 744 would be more in line with the economics of that route for any carrier. I'd think their DTW-NRT flight would be more in need of the 74S than HNL. I bet your right with either ATL or JFK is where the aircraft to run TPE comes from.
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:05 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 16):
Does DL operate an upgraded 74S on the HNL-NRT run? I would thing that a non-upgraded 744 would be more in line with the economics of that route for any carrier. I'd think their DTW-NRT flight would be more in need of the 74S than HNL. I bet your right with either ATL or JFK is where the aircraft to run TPE comes from

One of the reasons they use the 74S on HNL-NRT is because the schedule is much more efficient than DTW (or another longer transpac). A NRT-HNL daily roundtrip can pretty much be done with just one plane (the distance and schedules allow it to be handled like just another interport flight - NRT-TPE or NRT-MNL). As more 74S are completed, we are now starting to see DTW-NRT get the 74S on certain days of the week.

A daily MNL-NRT-JFK-TLV-JFK-NRT-MNL rotation requires 4 frames.
A daily TPE-NRT-ATL-NRT-TPE requires 3 frames (the NRT-ATL can't turn back to NRT until the next day, and remains overnight in ATL)

The daily DTW-NRT requires at least two if not three aircraft (I believe it's rotated with the DTW-NGO-MNL flight).

Both HNL-NRT and HNL-KIX are currently also using the 74S, and each one requires one aircraft only.

[Edited 2012-08-07 04:16:29]
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:20 am

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 1):
This week, the following routes are flown with 744s:
ATL-NRT
DTW-NGO-MNL
DTW-NRT
HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT
JFK-NRT-MNL
JFK-TLV
NRT-TPE

So where is the DL 744 maintenance base? NRT?
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:15 pm

744 overnight maintenance is done in DTW & MNL.
 
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:04 pm

Does anyone have an updated list specifying which routes the 74S is currently operating on? I found a few older threads, but I believe a few more upgraded models have been added since then.

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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:27 am

Quoting panamair (Reply 17):
One of the reasons they use the 74S on HNL-NRT is because the schedule is much more efficient than DTW (or another longer transpac). A NRT-HNL daily roundtrip can pretty much be done with just one plane (the distance and schedules allow it to be handled like just another interport flight - NRT-TPE or NRT-MNL). As more 74S are completed, we are now starting to see DTW-NRT get the 74S on certain days of the week

That does make total sense, that is not allowing any cushion for MX or WX delays, but yeah you are correct, I wasn't thinking that way. Does that aircraft then rotate out in Tokyo to DTW or ATL?
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RE: Current DL 744 Routes?

Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:03 pm

Anyone know if DL is likely to put the 744 back on ATL-HNL again? I'm looking to go back to Hawaii in 2013 and would love to fly DL on the upper deck of the 744 if possible. 

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