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US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:49 am

From October 28th to November 18th, US will fly a A332 on CLT-MCO.

Also, during this time, there will be a daily B767 flying this route as well. This in addition to the A321s, B757s, and B734s this route sees.

ALSO, PHL-MCO will see two daily B767s during this time, in addition to the B757s, A320s, and A321s this route sees.

I don't think US has ever flown this many heavies into MCO before. Why the weird surge of capacity all of a sudden?

Edit: An A332 will also fly CLT-PHL during this time period.

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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:06 am

Fantastic. I will be headed to MCO during this time and always fly US.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:05 am

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):

I don't think US has ever flown this many heavies into MCO before. Why the weird surge of capacity all of a sudden?

Well it is Fall/Winter and they probably have a lot of slack in their widebody fleet from all the seasonal TATL reductions, might as well do something with those planes right?
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:07 am

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
From October 28th to November 18th, US will fly a A332 on CLT-MCO.

If they're gonna put the 332 on CLTGIG they might as well swing it on home and send it onward to MCO 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:12 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
If they're gonna put the 332 on CLTGIG they might as well swing it on home and send it onward to MCO

Actually, the plane will fly CLT-GIG-CLT-MCO so yeah! Flight 800/801.

The 332 on CLTGIG continues until the Spring, dont know why CLTMCO on the 332 wouldn't continue.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:16 am

I think it is only showing as a 332 through November 18th as that is when the dummy schedule starts again
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:21 am

Quoting boberito6589 (Reply 5):
I think it is only showing as a 332 through November 18th as that is when the dummy schedule starts again

I feel you may be right. It just would not make sense to fly one of your largest aircraft during a time when MCO travel isn't peak. Hope it continues through the winter.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:30 am

Smart move. MCO probably is one of the key markets on GIG-CLT.
US is doing very well their home work to increase profitability and to prepare for the launch of CLT-GRU and who knows next.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:01 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
MCO probably is one of the key markets on GIG-CLT.

They were quick to change the termination of flight 800/801 from Philadelphia to Orlando right after the route launched. I hear from a lot of people that there are a lot of families travelling to/from Disney on the flight, and I wonder how the new MCO-GIG flight will effect CLT-GIG.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
launch of CLT-GRU

Do you have any updates on that route?
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:07 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
launch of CLT-GRU

Do you have any updates on that route?

I think it was last said that the 1st half of 2013 is when it should launch, who knows though It keeps getting pushed back
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:56 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
Do you have any updates on that route?

Now that GRU is a public-private partnership, it will be easy to believe they will offer the slots in order US can start the route by the end of March 2013 (IATA summer schedule)

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
They were quick to change the termination of flight 800/801 from Philadelphia to Orlando right after the route launched. I hear from a lot of people that there are a lot of families travelling to/from Disney on the flight, and I wonder how the new MCO-GIG flight will effect CLT-GIG.

US will have a great product to compete and JJ yields on GIG-MCO are expected to be very high (fares start around USD 1,800 round trip for January) so there's room for US to obtain something around USD 1,600 easily. And it seems they are getting them during the first three weeks of January.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:07 pm

I think this is some kind of utilization flight, just like someone mentioned previously. A similar example would be the SJU STT flights, where they sometimes get A330.

The 800/801 flight tags doesn't really have anything to do with it. For example, flight 797 goes from LAX to PHL and then TLV. It is however not the same aircraft flying both routes, and through pax have to change planes in PHL.

However, as someone mentioned, FL to South America is key to US, so they might as well put it a 332 if there is time to do that.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
They were quick to change the termination of flight 800/801 from Philadelphia to Orlando right after the route launched. I hear from a lot of people that there are a lot of families travelling to/from Disney on the flight, and I wonder how the new MCO-GIG flight will effect CLT-GIG.

There is no MCO-GIG flight. Pax needs to change planes and transfer in CLT if they are on US801 going to MCO after arriving from GIG.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
Do you have any updates on that route?

I think they are waiting for Brazil's approval

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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:08 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
Smart move. MCO probably is one of the key markets on GIG-CLT.

It's the top market on the route.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:45 pm

Quoting GA330 (Reply 11):
There is no MCO-GIG flight. Pax needs to change planes and transfer in CLT if they are on US801 going to MCO after arriving from GIG.

He meant the MCO-GIG daily nonstop service that JJ will launch this winter season.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:50 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
They were quick to change the termination of flight 800/801 from Philadelphia to Orlando right after the route launched.

It wasn't that quick. I think it lasted for two seasons, IIRC.
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:59 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 4):

This sounded like a good quick trip for me until I saw the flight number....
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:44 pm

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 15):

And why is that??
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:15 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 4):
Flight 800/801.

why they pick that flight number isn't that number retired afte TWA Flight 800
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:26 am

Quoting blueman87 (Reply 17):
Quoting USAirALB (Reply 4):Flight 800/801.
why they pick that flight number isn't that number retired afte TWA Flight 800

It's traditional for that operating carrier to retire the flight number (in this case AA), but DL and UA operate a flight 800 as well.
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:30 am

Quoting blueman87 (Reply 17):

why they pick that flight number isn't that number retired afte TWA Flight 800

Generally, only the airline whose flight number is involved retires a flight number after a crash, and even that is not always the case.

For example, flight numbers 11, 77, 93, and 175 are used by airlines other than UA and AA. CO used flight #11 for it's CDG-IAH flight until 2009, even though that was the flight number of the first fatal airline bombing.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:30 am

Quoting blueman87 (Reply 17):

why they pick that flight number isn't that number retired afte TWA Flight 800

Why? It wasn't their airline that had the incident.

Delta has a flight 800 on Saturdays ATL-BOS.
United 800 is a daily SNA-EWR

Not to mention, with US Airways the 7xx flight series are Trans-Atlantic flights. Given that, it's not shocking that South America gets the 8xx. Wouldn't be shocked if CLT-GRU became US802/803.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):

It's the top market on the route.

Yup - ORL-RIO on US is essential to US making the CLT-RIO flight work.

Having the same flight number for MCO-CLT-GIG does help when it comes to placement in the GDSs. Nonstops come first in the display, then directs, then connections. For what it's worth, Delta's ATL-GRU flight tags to MCO, for the exact same reasons.
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:47 am

I just find it odd that during this time, US will be flying larger aircraft into MCO than any other US airline..even larger than DL...my how times have changed.
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:03 am

Quoting etops1 (Reply 16):
Quoting ca2ohHP (Reply 18):
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 20):

I know it wasn't US that had the crash, but I am the most supersticious person you'll ever meet. Even writing this, I knocked on wood like twice.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 21):

That's true. I wonder if DL will respond to this by adding a widebody on some routes? Would they consider putting a 767 on ATL or DTW routes like they used to?
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:13 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 8):
and I wonder how the new MCO-GIG flight will effect CLT-GIG.

Demand from Brazil to MCO is unbounded.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 10):

Now that GRU is a public-private partnership, it will be easy to believe they will offer the slots in order US can start the route by the end of March 2013 (IATA summer schedule)

Are you saying ANAC is getting out of the picture and those running the airport will meter it?
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:03 am

Quoting incitatus (Reply 23):
Demand from Brazil to MCO is unbounded.

Indeed...all one has to do is go to Disney or Universal and you would swear you just time travelled to Rio or Sao Paulo lol...Why Disney?Universal hasn't opened up a park in Brazil is beyond me.
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:14 am

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 24):

Indeed...all one has to do is go to Disney or Universal and you would swear you just time travelled to Rio or Sao Paulo lol...Why Disney?Universal hasn't opened up a park in Brazil is beyond me.

It isn't just the parks - there is a large amount of Brazilian traffic that will go to the shops in Orlando and bring home the maximum baggage allowance filled to the brim with goods purchased in the United States.
 
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RE: US To Fly A332 To MCO

Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:30 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 25):
It isn't just the parks - there is a large amount of Brazilian traffic that will go to the shops in Orlando and bring home the maximum baggage allowance filled to the brim with goods purchased in the United States.

Yes, bazilions of Brazilions get dropped off/picked up by rows of buses at the area outlets. I can't blame them either compared to prices overseas.
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