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Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:10 pm

We've hit 200 posts on the last thread, so here's the new one.

http://zeenews.india.com/business/ne...voke-ubs-corp-guarantee_57670.html

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New Delhi: Certain aircraft lessors and bankers to ailing Kingfisher Airlines (KFA) have invoked corporate guarantees given by Vijay Mallya-led United Breweries (Holdings) and negotiations are on over the issue.

...

Earlier this week sources had said lessors wanted to take six aircraft back as KFA had defaulted on rentals.

However, the Airport Authority of India (AAI) had refused to allow the lessors to take back the aircraft.

Following this, one of the lessors had sent a legal notice to AAI for not passing the releasing order.
AAI's contention was that it could not let the aircraft go, as it too had to recover dues of about Rs 300 crore on account of landing and parking fees from the near-bankrupt KFA.

The airline, which has not paid salaries to its employees for the past five months (some have not been paid for six months), has been defaulting on payments to AAI, oil companies, aircraft leasing companies and the government tax authorities.

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Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:36 pm

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20120808/BLOG01/120809792

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The National Transportation Safety Board provided an update Wednesday on the investigation into the failure of a Boeing Co. 787 engine, which occurred last month in South Carolina.
...

The NTSB has determined that a mid-shaft engine fan fractured during the failure.
...

Air India, which is set to take delivery of 787s with GEnx engines, has said it would wait for the NTSB report before doing so.



I feel another delay coming on  
Here's the whole NTSB update:

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WASHINGTON - The National Transportation Safety Board continues its investigation of the July 28, 2012 contained engine failure that occurred on a Boeing 787 Dreamliner during a pre-delivery taxi test in Charleston, South Carolina. A contained engine failure is a specific engine design feature in which components might separate inside the engine but either remain within the engine's cases or exit the engine through the tail pipe. This design feature generally does not pose immediate safety risks.

Last week, the NTSB sent an investigator to the scene to gather information on the incident and subsequently launched a full investigation into the cause of the failure, led by NTSB Investigator-in-Charge, Mr. David Helson.

On August 1, 2012, a team of experts from the NTSB, FAA, Boeing and GE Aviation specializing in engine systems and metallurgy traveled to a GE facility in Cincinnati, OH to disassemble and examine the failed GEnx engine. GE is the manufacturer of the GEnx engine. The parties to the investigation have been extremely cooperative in assisting NTSB personnel in its review and assessment.

As a result of the investigative work to date, the NTSB has determined that a fan mid-shaft on the failed GEnx engine fractured at the forward end of the shaft, rear of the threads where the retaining nut is installed. The fan mid-shaft is undergoing several detailed examinations including dimensional and metallurgical inspections.

The GEnx engine is a newly designed aircraft engine. It is a "dual shaft" engine, meaning that one shaft connects the compressor spool at one end to the high pressure turbine spool at the other end. A longer "fan shaft" connects the fan and booster in the front of the engine to the low pressure turbine in the back.

The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder, which is a combined unit on the 787 Dreamliner, was transported to the agency's Recorders Laboratory in Washington, DC for processing and readout. Both recordings captured the event and analysis is ongoing.

Moving forward, investigators will continue the detailed examination of the engine and metallurgical analysis of its components. The investigators have also begun reviewing the engine manufacturing and assembly records.

This investigation is ongoing. The information released today is factual in nature and does not include any analysis. Additional factual information may be released as it is developed.



Sounds like a serious issue.

I'm hoping it's a manufacturing defect, because if it's a design defect, this is going to be a massive problem for Boeing and GE.

[Edited 2012-08-08 15:38:58]
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:24 am

This is a small note describing a bit of A.Net history that newer A.nettters may not be familiar with.

These Indian Aviation threads were the brainchild of A.netter "LAXDESI". It started, of course with thread ONE and we are now at thread 99. A very nice accomplishment and kudos to LAXDESI for the idea and leadership in this area.

Till about three years back LAXDESI would usually be the thread starter of each next installment thread in this series, but he did say it was fine for others to start the next installment of these threads..

However, back in thread 83, on September 04, 2009, LAXDESI made a small request - to be allowed to be the thread starter of the 100th thread of this series. I just would like to take a minute to remind old-timers and inform newcomers of this.

Mr. LAXDESI, Thank you, and awaiting your initiating the 100th thread in about 200 posts from now. I hope others will again remind posters downstream in this thread as it nears 200 posts.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:30 am

Thanks for pointing it out:

Quote: LAXDesi
Thanks for starting the new thread. Going forward, everyone who posts regularly on this thread should feel free to start a new thread after 200 posts(forum rule). Please link the new thread in the last post of previous one as I have been doing. However, I would like to start the 100th thread when it comes about in a year or so. Hope I have earned that honor.

I have taken on more professionally, and therefore will have very little time left to post-- but I will be reading this thread as much as I can.

I hope all of you keep posting and keep this the most(?) successful country specific thread on A.net.

Took a couple years longer than he expected to hit 100 threads though...   

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Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:31 am

True LAXDESI needs to be given credit for starting the thread,unless there is no attempt from his side for a few days.....

Amazing #99 has been reached.......

Congrats to all Involved.....
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Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:41 pm

oooh, cant wait till #100  .
 
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:30 pm

Quoting WestWing (Reply 2):
Mr. LAXDESI, Thank you, and awaiting your initiating the 100th thread in about 200 posts from now. I hope others will again remind posters downstream in this thread as it nears 200 posts.

Thank you for your kind words, and pulling up my request to initiate the 100th thread from thread #83.

I am glad that aeroblogger has been very prompt on starting new threads, and I hope he, along with others, will continue to keep the thread going after the 100th one.
 
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Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:45 pm

I posted this in the 9W/Star thread but it's also relevant here.

It looks like Star is finally done with AI.

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide...ndias-star-dream-ends/20120809.htm

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Speaking to Business Standard on a wide range of developments in the aviation sector, Civil Aviation Minister Ajit Singh said, "To be part of the alliance, every member has to agree and that has not happened, especially after the pilots' strike, when we lost a lot of credibility.

"They have practically said no and have sent us a letter last week.

"We have asked Air India to look for other options and alliances."
What the...?
 
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:14 pm

Good job LAXDESI! Appreciate your initiative in starting separate threads for Indian aviation news and discussion.

Has AI announced any new routes for the new 787s yet?
 
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:41 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 7):

Thank you for your kind words, and pulling up my request to initiate the 100th thread from thread #83.

you deserve the honour  
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Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:14 pm

Quoting blrsea (Reply 9):
Has AI announced any new routes for the new 787s yet?

DEL-MEL/SYD will be served by the 787 when it arrives. DEL-LHR has also been rumored, in order to have Kangaroo route conectivity.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:15 pm

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 8):

I posted this in the 9W/Star thread but it's also relevant here.

It looks like Star is finally done with AI.

does this mean that Jet will be in Star now???
 
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:33 pm

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 12):
does this mean that Jet will be in Star now???

Probably.

But then again, when it comes to Indian aviation, you can't count on things going to plan.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:55 pm

Whats the news on Quikjet.....Looks unlikely that the project would ever take off similiar to Flyington Freighters.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:01 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 14):
similiar to Flyington Freighters.

Well, Flyington recently got it's AOC
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:06 pm

Ridiculous UA fares on EWR-BOM for WInter 2012.

What is driving UA fares so high for November-December. Average price is 1700 range for R/T Non stop flights. In comparision AI is 1300 range with all EU airlines offering one stop flights in 1400 range.

Is this normal pricing for this time of the year since it is the peak season of travel?
 
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:11 pm

Quoting Viman82 (Reply 16):
Is this normal pricing for this time of the year since it is the peak season of travel?

Pricing is higher than usual, due to increased demand, good capacity discipline, and the AI strike. I doubt it'll go any cheaper.

TK and AI are the only airlines I'm seeing which are priced reasonably this winter season.
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:34 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 14):

Well, Flyington recently got it's AOC

My belief that this company will never start.....  
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:16 pm

Quoting blrsea (Reply 8):
Has AI announced any new routes for the new 787s yet?

Barring the rumored Australian routes and domestic sectors of BOM/DEL/HYD not much officially

However they have filed for a 787 slot at DXB at one of their already available slots of 1700 hrs and 1800 hrs,

This could either be from BOM or DEL as currently both see 321 service arriving into DXB at 1700 and departing at 1800 hrs


On a side note,

LAXDESI its been a long journey who would have thought we would have hit 100 threads on Indian Aviation , thank you for starting these

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Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:34 pm

What hapened to the thread 99 tarted by LAXdesi? why didnt anyone post in that it only had two posts one of which was a query as to why no one was posting there.

Anyways want to know what makes MAA a popular cargo destination, just about every cargo line is flying there.
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:38 pm

There are two #99s. The other one should be deleted, I guess.

Re-posting what I had posted there:

"Vijay Mallya to striking pilots: Understand the extreme hardship that I am going through"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...-Airlines/articleshow/15427863.cms

The man has some gall. The reader comments say it all! Anywhere else, he'd never get away with not paying staff for months while flaunting his lavish lifestyle and then blaming the staff when they agitate for their pay! He is essentially operating while insolvent, something that it completely not permissible in the airline industry anywhere else in the world!

A good rejoinder in FirstPost:

http://www.firstpost.com/business/wh...uld-call-mallyas-bluff-413421.html
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:21 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 17):
Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 14):

Well, Flyington recently got it's AOC

My belief that this company will never start.....  

Given the state of finances of Deccan Chronicle Holdings, I doubt they'll ever start - these classy guys even tried to blackmail EADS if one recalls. Now they can't pay their media employees nor the cricketers on the Chargers payroll. Debt funded dreams....
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:51 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 18):
Barring the rumored Australian routes and domestic sectors of BOM/DEL/HYD not much officially

There was a talk that AI-131/130 BOM-LHR would be shifted to 787 from 77W . ( was their in the media as well) Shall i assume that was all rubbish .
 
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:59 am

Quoting VIDP (Reply 22):
There was a talk that AI-131/130 BOM-LHR would be shifted to 787 from 77W . ( was their in the media as well) Shall i assume that was all rubbish .

No. LHR, FRA, DXB, MEL, and SYD are the expected early destinations.

It would seem more likely that the LHR service would come from DEL though, since the 787 fleet is based in DEL.
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:30 am

Quoting Cricket (Reply 21):
Given the state of finances of Deccan Chronicle Holdings, I doubt they'll ever start - these classy guys even tried to blackmail EADS if one recalls. Now they can't pay their media employees nor the cricketers on the Chargers payroll. Debt funded dreams..

A Pity that people think running an airline is putting out an ad & hoping to get $$$$ to start an airline,bargin with competiton for cheaper aircraft & give media Interviews on future startups & plans  
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:54 pm

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 1):
I'm hoping it's a manufacturing defect, because if it's a design defect, this is going to be a massive problem for Boeing and GE.

The GECF680 series of engines suffered a design fault which led to similar mid-span shaft failure, indeed this did not stop GE from selling these engines in large numbers, they went on to be GE's most popular engines.



Quoting sankaps (Reply 20):
"Vijay Mallya to striking pilots: Understand the extreme hardship that I am going through"

This is turning into a very dangerous situation, where you have unpaid disgruntled employees pushed against the wall looking increasingly at a hopeless future. Its this very kind of situation that regulators in matured markets ensure doesnot arise.
The threat from disgruntled employees have led to the introduction of psychometric testing in aviation. I wish the press in India emphasise on this fact and get inputs from EU/US regulators on this situation.
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:06 pm

Tajik Air have ended DEL service which operating once weekly with 737-500.
 
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:17 am

Quoting tayaramecanici (Reply 25):
The threat from disgruntled employees have led to the introduction of psychometric testing in aviation.

Exactly......this is a serious senario not only for KFA but also the Airports in India.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:22 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 19):
Anyways want to know what makes MAA a popular cargo destination, just about every cargo line is flying there.

Chennai has developed into a major manufacturing hub over the past decade or so.....they have a strong automobile industry, engineering goods, textiles and of course IT too.......I guess that is what drives the air cargo traffic.....
 
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:12 pm

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 23):
It would seem more likely that the LHR service would come from DEL though, since the 787 fleet is based in DEL.

AI-111/AI-112 DEL-LHR-DEL is operated by 777 so does that imply that equipment will change to 787 on this flight or AI-115/116 will come online again ( early morning departure ) on 787.
 
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:20 pm

Saw this at DEL T3, I see an A388 marking as well just beside A300/A342-343.
Are domestic gates capable of handling A388s?



If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
 
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:23 pm

Quoting VIDP (Reply 29):
AI-111/AI-112 DEL-LHR-DEL is operated by 777 so does that imply that equipment will change to 787 on this flight or AI-115/116 will come online again ( early morning departure ) on 787.

I presume that AI will want to rejig the LHR schedule to connect with the Kangaroo route.

To remind, the tentative Australia schedule is:
Flight No. Departure Arrival Aircraft Days
AI 312 DEL 01:40 SYD 18:15 77L/77W/787 12-4-6-
AI 312 SYD 19:45 MEL 21:20 77L/77W/787 12-4-6-
AI 311 MEL 22:55 DEL 06:35* 77L/77W/787 12-4-6-
AI 316 DEL 23:15 MEL 15:40* 77L/77W/787 -2-4-6-
AI 311 MEL 17:20 SYD 18:50 77L/77W/787 %u20133-5-7
AI 311 SYD 20:30 DEL 04:25* 77L/77W/787 %u20133-5-7

The aircraft has just enough time to operate AI 115/116 (moved forward 1.5 hours or so) on days 1, 4, and 6. On the other days, they might rotate in the aircraft from BOM in order to connect with AI 316.

It will be very interesting to watch AI's winter schedule this year  
Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 30):
Saw this at DEL T3, I see an A388 marking as well just beside A300/A342-343.
Are domestic gates capable of handling A388s?

No.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:34 pm

any chance the ban on the A380 will be lifted in India? I mean if it such a big deal, why doesnt AI just go buy a few....
 
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:56 pm

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 32):
any chance the ban on the A380 will be lifted in India?

Doesn't seem likely in the near future.

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 32):
I mean if it such a big deal, why doesnt AI just go buy a few....

Thankfully, Airbus hasn't managed to convince the babus that AI needs A380s. That would be a disaster for the airline and for the taxpayer.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:55 pm

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 30):
Saw this at DEL T3, I see an A388 marking as well just beside A300/A342-343.
Are domestic gates capable of handling A388s?

I remember seeing A380 markings back when T3 had just opened at every stand, so perhaps its just a case of the markings being made at every stand.
 
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:30 am

Saudia map shows them serving AMD as a non-scheduled destination, is that hajj only or seasonal umra flights? http://www.saudiairlines.com/portal/...c1bd5c7110VgnVCM1000001f64e80aRCRD
 
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:41 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 35):
Saudia map shows them serving AMD as a non-scheduled destination, is that hajj only or seasonal umra flights? http://www.saudiairlines.com/portal/...aRCRD

Hajj only I believe.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:01 am

Quoting anshuk (Reply 34):
I remember seeing A380 markings back when T3 had just opened at every stand, so perhaps its just a case of the markings being made at every stand

In case of emergencies..... DEL is one of EK's contigency 380 airports........ besides 2 years back Ek380 did come on the first commercial 380 flight to India.
 
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:43 am

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 32):
any chance the ban on the A380 will be lifted in India?

Technically there is no ban on the A380 in India. It is cleared by DGCA for operations. The Ministry of Civil Aviation is hiding behind the fact that no bi-lateral agreement signed with any other country includes the A380. So any airline wanting to operate the A380 must obtain permission of MoCA first, and that permission is never given. It is not denied either. The file is just buried. That is what happened to LH.

The bilateral is the reason why LH began the B748i service to India. The bilateral only specifies Boeing 747 as the largest aircraft. It does not specify a series. So for the 748 LH did not need specific permission.  

Three airports in India are currently A380 certified. BOM, DEL, HYD.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:17 am

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 38):
The bilateral is the reason why LH began the B748i service to India. The bilateral only specifies Boeing 747 as the largest aircraft. It does not specify a series. So for the 748 LH did not need specific permission.

   Also note India also specifies 400 seats as the maximum.

However, the open skies with the USA over-rides that limit. So there just needs to be a US A380 operator.  

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Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:11 am

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 32):
any chance the ban on the A380 will be lifted in India? I mean if it such a big deal, why doesnt AI just go buy a few..

No ban.....just a political decision post getting the Bays to be ready.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:13 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 39):
However, the open skies with the USA over-rides that limit. So there just needs to be a US A380 operator.

So what you are saying is that LH needs to "wet lease" a 380 to UA?
 
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:22 am

Quoting spink (Reply 41):
So what you are saying is that LH needs to "wet lease" a 380 to UA?

Yeah right, so much for serving the Indian market   
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:36 pm

Quoting spink (Reply 41):
So what you are saying is that LH needs to "wet lease" a 380 to UA?

Actually, that would be really interesting...

Could LH operate the A380 on a sector like EWR-FRA-DEL, having "wet leased" the aircraft out to UA? They're JV partners...
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:13 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 39):
   Also note India also specifies 400 seats as the maximum.

Actually the agreement says

with an aircraft with a capacity not exceeding that of a B747.

There is no mention of 400. Is there a later agreement after 2005?

The agreement is here. http://dgca.nic.in/bilateral/germ_0505.pdf
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:29 pm

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 44):

That's awesome...I love loopholes. It looks like LH has one likely destination for the 748i..
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting spink (Reply 41):
So what you are saying is that LH needs to "wet lease" a 380 to UA?

   You know, I had *never* considered that option! What a clever and simple solution. Assuming I'm wrong on the 400 seats... (

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 43):
Could LH operate the A380 on a sector like EWR-FRA-DEL, having "wet leased" the aircraft out to UA? They're JV partners...

I wonder... That would be an excellent starter route...   

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 44):
There is no mention of 400. Is there a later agreement after 2005?

I stand corrected. Germany was not constrained to the 400 seats as others were in an old summary:

http://dgca.gov.in/bilateral/Bilateral.pdf

New MOU:

http://dgca.nic.in/bilateral/bilateral_idx.htm


Alas, the devil is in the details...

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:20 pm

It looks like AI has dropped the reverse triangle Australia route.

Here's the new schedule:

AI 312 DEL 0140 SYD 1915/2045 MEL 2215 787/77L/77W D
AI 311 MEL 2345 DEL 655+1 787/77L/77W D

This clears up the crew rest issues which would have been created by the reverse triangle routing, and also leaves ample space for a DEL-LHR-DEL run in between, allowing 787 the whole way on the Kangaroo route.


I'm also hearing 2 787 deliveries to take place this Saturday...
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:59 pm

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 47):
allowing 787 the whole way on the Kangaroo route.

If AI is able to set up the LHR slots, Kudos to them.

I've posted before, DEL would be a phenomenal geographic location for a hub. Due to the far higher O&D traffic than DXB/DOH/AUH, it would have a HUGE advantage hubbing from SE Asia and Australia to Europe. But AI needs to set up the connections and manage the experience.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread # 99

Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:24 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 48):
But AI needs to set up the connections and manage the experience.

Competitive ticket pricing, seamless transit experience are AI's key to make this Europe-DEL-Aus Hub a success.

Owners of AI, if with any brains, should see this as an amazing opportunity to get back long lost ground, especially when no domestic carrier would have such similar offering for at least 6 months from now....
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