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Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:47 am

Air Asia X will add six more A330s to its fleet for regional operations, on lease from ILFC:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...e-Airbus-A330-300-Aircraft-AirAsia

Good news; clearly, although Air Asia X has axed its long haul operations, its regional routes are growing healthily and long may this continue.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:36 am

Great news!

Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:53 am

Quoting solnabo (Reply 1):
Great news!

Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

Don't think they need that for regional routes.

Great news for sure, any idea about the destinations ?
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:03 am

Quoting solnabo (Reply 1):
Great news!

Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

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The release seems to indicate these are used frames, not new. So the question is - who is disposing of 6 A333's?

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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:23 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
So the question is - who is disposing of 6 A333's?

Well, they'll have RR so that narrows it down a bit.

Of ILFC's customers, I think only Cathay have that many RR A333s. I find it hard to believe that this is the source.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:25 am

Quoting solnabo (Reply 1):
Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

The article also says they're the 233-ton version.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:33 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
The release seems to indicate these are used frames, not new. So the question is - who is disposing of 6 A333's?

They are 233T version, same as they have, but someone giving up 6 is a good question.

They do have one odd ball in the fleet, their first 333 is a used GE powered unit, wonder if one will replace it.

They seem to be doing well on flights 5 to 8 hours from base, so that may give an idea on routes.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:44 am

Quoting col (Reply 6):
They are 233T version, same as they have, but someone giving up 6 is a good question

Not got an answer but there's lots of airlines, gettign 787s over the next 18 months maybe these could be frames released by these arrivals?
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:54 am

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Of ILFC's customers, I think only Cathay have that many RR A333s. I find it hard to believe that this is the source.

Well, Dragonair already started to dispose of some of their RR-powered A330s. B-HYE left Dragonair for Air Transat in 2009, B-HYD followed in 2011 and B-HYF is now also in TS colors. If Airfleets is correct, many of them are ILFC frames.

From B-HYF, Dragonairs frames are A330-343s (with the newer Trent 700 772B/C-60). Are these 233t-capable?
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:50 am

Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE, so I don't think any used or new 333 would absolutely positively have to be Rollers.


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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:32 am

Quoting raggi (Reply 9):

Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE, so I don't think any used or new 333 would absolutely positively have to be Rollers.

Except that it's explicitly mentioned in the article:

Quote:
These aircraft are the same model as those that AirAsia X purchased directly from Airbus, with Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines and a Maximum Take-Off Weight of 233 tons.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:49 am

Quoting raggi (Reply 9):
Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE, so I don't think any used or new 333 would absolutely positively have to be Rollers.

Would be surprised if the 332 ever make it on property.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:14 pm

Quoting raggi (Reply 9):
Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE

They ordered just three, then converted one to a -300 and recently cancelled another. That leaves just one.

Quoting col (Reply 11):

Would be surprised if the 332 ever make it on property.

Quite.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:16 pm

Quoting joost (Reply 10):
Quoting col (Reply 11):
Quoting PM (Reply 12):

ok, my bad, I agree with y'all after reading the article properly.
In light of your posts it looks like they'll eventually have an all RR 300 A330 fleet, which makes sense after giving up on longhaul.
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:10 pm

Quoting joost (Reply 8):
Well, Dragonair already started to dispose of some of their RR-powered A330s. B-HYE left Dragonair for Air Transat in 2009, B-HYD followed in 2011 and B-HYF is now also in TS colors. If Airfleets is correct, many of them are ILFC frames.

Indeed. 6 aircraft are coming off lease. 3 in 2012 and 3 in 2013.
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:57 pm

Hmm, last month 9M-XXI (c/n 1321) was not taken up and is now going to Hongkong Jet as VP-CBE and now AirAsia X announces additional A330's? Strange...  
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:25 pm

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 15):
Hmm, last month 9M-XXI (c/n 1321) was not taken up and is now going to Hongkong Jet as VP-CBE and now AirAsia X announces additional A330's? Strange...  

I would expect this is more to do with timing.
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:32 am

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 14):

Indeed. 6 aircraft are coming off lease. 3 in 2012 and 3 in 2013

I understand they will soon get 2x regional configured 333 from CX, and another 2x from... not sure. So it means they will just be replaced by 4x 333 ?
 
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RE: Six More A333s For Air Asia X

Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:31 am

Per JP fleets HLB/C/E are 212K, all other KA A333 are 205K including all 6 ILFC leased birds.But its possible they are built to 233K standard but certified for lower weights for KA.

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