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Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:35 pm

According to the August Boeing delivery list there will be at least 8 "Dreamies" this month. There are 3 for All Nippon, 1 for JAL, 1 for Ethiopian, 1 for Qatar, 1 for LAN-Chile, and possibly up to 3 for Air India.
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:38 pm

How are they actually performing in real, line service? I have seen a few threads but this is an ongoing thing. How many can they produce each month? I would imagine if the bugs are being worked out that deliveries will start in significant numbers soon.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:09 pm

Yes, lets hope so. I completely forgot about Qatar's 787. Whats would be GREAT to see is if both NH and AI frames took off and landed one after each other. That would be worth watching!!
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:21 pm

Quoting bigbird (Thread starter):
According to the August Boeing delivery list there will be at least 8 "Dreamies" this month. There are 3 for All Nippon, 1 for JAL, 1 for Ethiopian, 1 for Qatar, 1 for LAN-Chile, and possibly up to 3 for Air India.

Could be only 7 if the AI mess isn't resolved - and if I were a betting man, I'd wager against it.
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:27 pm

Quoting saab2000 (Reply 1):
How many can they produce each month?

Everett is currently increasing production from 3.5 per month to 5 per month by the end of this year. I believe CHS is still being held at 1 per month to allow the staff to get familiar with assembling airframes.

There are also around nine assembled 787s at the EMC or Building 40-24 undergoing Change Incorporation and Rework that could, if not should, deliver before the end of the year.
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:52 pm

Quoting ER757 (Reply 3):

Could be only 7 if the AI mess isn't resolved - and if I were a betting man, I'd wager against it.

That was my thought. AI is a go, but its an AI "go."

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):
Quoting saab2000 (Reply 1):
How many can they produce each month?

Everett is currently increasing production from 3.5 per month to 5 per month by the end of this year. I believe CHS is still being held at 1 per month to allow the staff to get familiar with assembling airframes.

   But then they have Everett and San Antonio working on the early build frames to send them out the door. So ten per month is a realistic delivery rate for early 2013.

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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:56 pm

Quoting saab2000 (Reply 1):
How are they actually performing in real, line service?

Saw on a thread here on A.net that either JAL or ANA - can't remember who - were experiencing numbers better then expected. 3 to 4% IIRC.
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:28 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):

Ya, but that's an artificial ten per month at the beginning. I would expect as more early birds go out now, the monthly rate will drop in the middle of the year, but once again pick up once production reaches ten a month in late 2013.
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:16 am

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 7):
Ya, but that's an artificial ten per month at the beginning. I would expect as more early birds go out now, the monthly rate will drop in the middle of the year, but once again pick up once production reaches ten a month in late 2013.

All things 787 has it fairly flat in 2013. Oh, May is predicted to be low, but overall, about 10/month should be held.
http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2012/08/a...ndia-ethiopian-moving-towards.html

For as that 'artificial ten' peters out, new production will slowly accelerate.


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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:35 am

Quoting bigbird (Thread starter):
According to the August Boeing delivery list there will be at least 8 "Dreamies" this month.

Given no August deliveries to date (August 9), that would equate to 1 delivery about every 2.5 days. I'd like to see that happen!

Quoting bigbird (Thread starter):
possibly up to 3 for Air India.

Air India has noted that they will take the birds one at a time, spaced about 7-10 days apart. Even if they get their act together and, moreover, look past the engine issue, I doubt we'll see three delivered.
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:05 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):
Everett is currently increasing production from 3.5 per month to 5 per month by the end of this year. I believe CHS is still being held at 1 per month to allow the staff to get familiar with assembling airframes.

Isn't the current 3,5 per month for Everett and Charleston in total?
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:53 am

Quoting someone83 (Reply 10):
Isn't the current 3,5 per month for Everett and Charleston in total?

No. Everett is 3.5, Charleston is somewhere just below 1/month.
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:29 am

Charleston is slow because they have to rework the airframes on FAL, this slows the FAL down a lot, but they only have 2 more frames that need rework and they are later ones. When LN65 is rolled out they will produce rework free planes as Everett does.

Boeing has 16 frames that have gone through FAL or EMC waiting for pre delivery tasks, that is a lot of airframes that could be delivered in 4-5 weeks after they roll out to flight line, these combined with new built will increase the deliveries. A few of these 16 have flown B1s and B2 waiting for C1.
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:06 am

Quoting bigbird (Thread starter):
According to the August Boeing delivery list there will be at least 8 "Dreamies" this month. There are 3 for All Nippon, 1 for JAL, 1 for Ethiopian, 1 for Qatar, 1 for LAN-Chile, and possibly up to 3 for Air India.

There is already a thread on this. Let's keep it all in one place eh?
787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 6 (by srbmod Jul 24 2012 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:43 pm

Quoting sweair (Reply 12):
Charleston is slow because they have to rework the airframes on FAL, this slows the FAL down a lot, but they only have 2 more frames that need rework and they are later ones.

By the time Charleston started with their first frame, rework and change incorporation should have been minimal. I've read that Boeing is artificially keeping the production rate low to allow the workers to come up to speed. Everett has been assembling 787s for years now, so they are more familiar with the process.
 
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:01 pm

8 787s in the eighth month  
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:05 pm

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 9):
Given no August deliveries to date (August 9), that would equate to 1 delivery about every 2.5 days. I'd like to see that happen!

Boeing typically delivers most airplanes in the latter half of the month. I have never understood why, but usually deliveries stack up in the last 10 days of any given month.
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RE: Boeing To Deliver At Least 8 787s This Month

Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:30 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 16):
Boeing typically delivers most airplanes in the latter half of the month. I have never understood why,

Deliveries are contracted to the nearest month. It doesn't make any difference (contract-wise) if you deliver on the 1st or the 31st...but if you tip over into the 1st of the next month there may be penalties. So, much like a car dealer trying to hit their quota at the end of the month, the pressure goes up and delivery rate goes up at the end of each month.

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