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Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:17 pm

Deadspin, part of the Gawker news group usually has a sracastic take on things, but fair use from their site. The rcording is included in the link below:

"The flight attendant wanted to have spiritual heart to hearts with passengers as they boarded and seeing as I was at a bachelor party in Nashville the night before I really didn't need a spiritual cleansing. Nonetheless I was told I was 'filled with power and confidence', given a hug and allowed to take my seat. Just when I thought things would tone down this was her take off routine. If you can't bring yourself to listen, here is a small sampling of what poor Kurt was subjected to:

'Lemme ask you a question... How many of you people are doin' really well today? Can we have some thumbs up for all those that are doing well? YAY! (singing) Happy happy Saturday! Happy Saturday to you! Happy happy Saturday! Happy Saturday to you! We all have good things inside of us, we do. I want everyone to know that you're special. I need everyone's attention now, because this is so strong in my spirit...how many people know the flower is growing in them?'"

http://deadspin.com/5934227/the-time...ricas-flight-attendants-to-shut-up
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:05 pm

Although that was definitely a harshly-worded article, I can't say this little routine wouldn't have annoyed me. I can't even explain why. I guess it's a little too close to a religious sermon and that's not something I want forced on me.

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Also, stop clapping when the plane lands. It's SUPPOSED to land.

Also, I love the first comment on the article.  
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:22 pm

She's like the flip side of the exorcist FA on that one AA flight that was screaming bloody murder, I find them both terrifying though honestly at least the banshee FA is more decisively crazy, this one at least a quarter of the plane would probably tell you to stop being so cynical if you suggested that maybe Miss Happy Happy Saturday was stark-raving mad
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:29 pm

The guy that wrote the article is a d-bag. The Flight Attendant is crAAzy.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:30 pm

I'd have un-board myself from that aircraft.
Flying is serios business, and I don't need loonies of ANY type being in control of the cockpit or cabin.
I'm a religious person mysef, and don't mind religious discussion, but there's an appropriate time and place for such things.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:28 am

Incase anyone is wondering, it's an American Connection flight from ORD-MSN operated by Chautauqua.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:37 am

I don't know, I guess I would have just kind of gone along with her. I mean what is the worse that could happen? In a real emergency she probably would have put her game face on, and if not, well that's when some people with a spine will take charge. She may be a bit looney, but you never can tell how a person will react in a real emergency. Some people that apear as cool as cucumners in every day situations can loose it in emergencies too.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:00 am

I say drug test her and regardless of the results, FIRE her immediately. This is not an example of kindness or hospitality that should be exhibited by a flight attendant. It's ok to make a cute remark or a little joke but she is clearly obnoxious and an embarrassment to our profession.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:27 am

I just went back and listened again to the recording and have to say it is really, really odd. It's one part religious devotion, one part Mr. Rogers, and one part positive affirmation. I think it does border on the inappropriate.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:28 am

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 7):
I say drug test her and regardless of the results, FIRE her immediately.

If you're going to fire her anyway, why drug test? That's just dishonest.

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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:31 am

Some of the passengers found it funny, as you can here laughter in the clip, and with the hassle that short hops like ORD-MSN are, it is just one of those small things there to make your travel a little comedic and less high-strung.

I thought it was funny how during her saturday song, a baby cried.   
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:36 am

I have had simular kind spirited PA's on flights with this airline. From a PAX point of view, I don't really mind it.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:46 am

That announcement is definitely creepy.

Maybe this flight attendant gave this sermon, and sang her happy song, because the passengers - all crammed into the economy section like cattle going off to slaughter - weren't displaying that cheerful, loving, I've-got-a-flower-growing-inside-me, expression the flight attendant was hoping to see. (The flower growing inside me comment sounded positively parasitic - I want to take a course of antibiotics and hopefully kill it off before it kills me).

Quoting MikeCT (Reply 1):
I can't say this little routine wouldn't have annoyed me. I can't even explain why. I guess it's a little too close to a religious sermon and that's not something I want forced on me.

I think what is offensive is the presumption that these passengers need someone telling them they are special - as if they weren't capable of figuring this out themselves. Of course, considering the the checked baggage fees, the packet containing 7.4 peanuts, and the half a can of diet coke, perhaps the passengers didn't feel very special and did need this helpful reminder.

Quoting Squid (Reply 6):
I don't know, I guess I would have just kind of gone along with her. I mean what is the worse that could happen?

Of course you go along with her! It sounds like this woman could lose it at any second and come racing down the aisle trying to poke your eye out with a tooth pick. You don't mess with folks like this, trust me.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:51 am

Somebody went off her lithium a few days back...
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:59 am

Probably the most 'from the heart' comment I've ever heard from an FA was on a QX PDX-YVR flight several years ago:

"I'm going to keep the lights low during this flight -- I truly believe we older women look more beautiful in low light."
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:21 am

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 9):
If you're going to fire her anyway, why drug test? That's just dishonest.

Tom.

And needlessly expensive. I do feel, however, that this would qualify as a testable incident. All comments aside, if I were employed by the airline at any position of managerial responsibility, I would find that this is grounds for evaluation. While not saying she's deserving of termination, this is of concern, and someone should look into it.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:01 am

I would have made a serious complaint about her if I was on that flight, I do agree when others say flying is a serious business. Yes, I like light-hearted cabin crew members who enjoy their job and take pride in what they do, but this is just crazy.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:14 am

Oh my... Totally crazy.. What was she on? x? Speed? I mean... "C" ome on.. No one is like that normally... I hope at least!
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:52 am

I flew on Northwest one time when a male f/a addressed the pax as "Good People" in every announcement.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:55 am

"Is this FA announcement appropriate"?
Short answer "No!"

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 14):
"I'm going to keep the lights low during this flight -- I truly believe we older women look more beautiful in low light."

Jokes like this, I think are fine but the above is just way over the top. I would have been pretty pissed off if I was on board.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:45 pm

I re-read the article and realized she was also hugging people before they took their seat. Or at least the one guy who sparked this story. That I would definitely not be ok with. I'm a personal space kind of guy and I don't want unsolicited hugs from strangers. I'm honestly not sure what my reaction to that would be.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:23 pm

So on a RJ flight like this with one FA, is there really nobody there to supervise things or notice stuff like this? Not sure if the flight crew can hear the announcements but I know they're busy getting ready for flight and flying the plane. Just seems like on an RJ with one FA there aren't any checks-and-balances so to speak... maybe on a CR7 the other FA might have said "Enough already," or some such.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:25 pm

Whoa ... this FA either took a self-help book/online article too seriously or she is just naive at the reaction she will get.

I'm all for a positive approach to life, etc, etc ... but the surge in the number of self-help articles all giving people conflicting advice can be very dangerous ... I am beginning to see the effects increasingly causing faux pas like these.

Everyone is entitled to their belief and it is great people use 'tools' and 'activities' for self development, but forcing those activities on others is a total no no ...

I have met FAs who have had the charm to turn a bad situation (e.g. delay, lost luggage, etc) into a positive one by maintaining a level headed conversation, understanding how the traveller feels and most of all by assessing how they can best serve/help customers.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:38 pm

Sounds like a rehab flight to me.  
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:55 pm

LOL LMAO

Inappropriate? Not sure. Would I have said that, no. Does the company approve it, no. Were people happy, sounded like it. That said...you have to judge and evaluate the situation and the customer base on board before doing something like that.
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:31 pm

COmmuter feeder? Maybe she's crazy or enlightened. I'd opt for downright bored, so she thought of something new. I've had flight attendants on such flights say deadpan stuff like "your Bora-Bora-based crew" etc... just to keep us pax's attention. Considering the peculiar place of religion in a secular state like the US, nothing surprises me anymore....
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:38 pm

Piers Morgan had ended his CNN show with this last night. . .(he said it would have ticked him off) This FA was acting creepy imho. I want my FA interactions professional and friendly. I don't mind some cordial conversation or mild humor now and again, but this is too familiar for me.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting mauiman31 (Reply 26):
This FA was acting creepy imho.

I agree. It's one thing to tell a silly joke, but don't make yourself look like you might be mentally unstable.
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:04 pm

While I'm not religious in any sense of the word, don't you all think you're overreacting just a little bit? It's a good thing the flight wasn't out of Massachusetts or you all would have shipped her to Salem and burned her at the stake!  

I took the announcement with a grain of salt, perhaps because I listened to it from the comfort of my desk chair and not crammed into an RJ cigar tube. Yeah, the FA was a bit around the bend, but at least she was happy. How many happy FA's are there anymore? They're an endangered species!

"I re-read the article and realized she was also hugging people before they took their seat. Or at least the one guy who sparked this story. That I would definitely not be ok with. I'm a personal space kind of guy and I don't want unsolicited hugs from strangers. I'm honestly not sure what my reaction to that would be."


OK, that would have creeped me the hell out...unless she was hot... 
 
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RE: Is This FA Announcement Appropriate?

Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:03 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 10):
Some of the passengers found it funny, as you can here laughter in the clip,

Laughter can also (and is often) a sign of stress and nervousness.

Quoting mav75 (Reply 28):
but at least she was happy.

I can assure you she was far from it.

As others have said, it's OK (and encouraged on certain airlines) to crack a few jokes, but this was not a joke. You do NOT hug random passengers, period. I would have gotten off the plane and demanded she be drug tested.
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