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Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:36 am

I need to be put out of my misery; does anyone know what the next batch of new destinations will be for Copa?

They seem to be in a cycle of announcing in groups of 2 or 3 in January and August, right? Praying one will be BGI!
 
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:53 am

In the US, I could see some more Star Alliance hubs being added. DEN, EWR, IAH, and SFO.

Question, how many 737-8 deliveries, if any, are they expecting the rest of this year?

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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:54 am

I hope one destination is IAH!
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:03 am

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 1):
Question, how many 737-8 deliveries, if any, are they expecting the rest of this year?

0 B737-8's, but according to Boeing's Deliveries they have received 5 B737-800s this year through July.
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:44 am

Someone in another forum mentioned that they do it in Sept. Fingers crossed for PTY-BZE!
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:14 am

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 1):
I hope one destination is IAH!

Why? IAH is served by partner UA and they have a clear agreement of not stepping into each others toes.

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 1):
DEN, EWR, IAH, and SFO.

They don't have the right equipment to serve SFO year round without payload restrictions. The flight would be better served by a UA 757.

As of new destinations, I could see BOS in the US happening, why not DEN. A little bit more far fetched would be DFW and ATL, they are large-ish metro areas with sizeable latino populations. TPA and FLL have been after CM also. In the Caribbean, maybe a new cuban station, a couple of islands in the mid-term. In south america maybe CWB and AQP; and someone said PVR in Mexico was going to happen soon...also, the eternal BZE question comes to mind. Is there enough traffic from Belize to South America to sustain this flight?
 
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:28 am

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 2):

I hope one destination is IAH!

It can't

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 1):
the US, I could see some more Star Alliance hubs being added. DEN, EWR, IAH, and SFO.

No IAH or EWR.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
Why? IAH is served by partner UA and they have a clear agreement of not stepping into each others toes.

Correct. Copa cannot fly to pmCO hubs. They can serve the regions though and pmUA hubs since the agreement was with pmCO. They can also serve HOU...and do serve JFK.
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:58 am

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 1):
DEN, EWR, IAH, and SFO.

See the reply 98 into the current Central American aviation thread. UA is seeking one new destination heading to Panama City and UA SFO-PTY is a feasible candidate. It won't be attended by CM.
With respect to New York City area, Copa Airlines was forced to fly at JFK instead when the former CO was already flying the EWR-PTY sector.
Based on this philosophy, CM won't fly the IAH-PTY segment.




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Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
They don't have the right equipment to serve SFO year round without payload restrictions. The flight would be better served by a UA 757.

CM PTY-MVD is the longest non-stop flight for the Panamanian airline nowadays.
I've previously demonstrated in another thread how SFO-PTY is slightly shorter than PTY-MVD; following purely a straight line and disregarding winds.


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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:46 am

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 1):
DEN, EWR, IAH, and SFO.

About 3-4 years ago, DEN airport management stated that they had spoken with CM about a possible n/s PTY-DEN. So let's say this was in 2009.

The DEN-NRT flight was 10 or so years in the making, and will begin in 2013. FI's KEF-DEN, which recently began, was stated as 7 years in the making.

DEN usually ends up with what they go after, and they are very patient there. So I'm going to predict that sometime between 2015 and 2020 there will be a PTY-DEN nonstop on CM.

And if it's any sooner, I'd be somewhat surprised.


 
 
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:50 am

CLT would be nice

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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:18 pm

Several thoughts on this subject:
SFO will be flown by UA,
PHX, as long as US is Star, seems that PHX-PTY (plus PHL-PTY and CLT-PTY) look like potential US routes.
Houston needs CM, but if CM is to fly to Houston it'll have to be to HOU and currently HOU doesn't have an in-terminal FIS:
MSY has been after CM for a while, Hondurans in New Orleans would love a tag-on to MSY from SAP.
DFW highly unlikely, but it's on my wish list.
Boston may be waiting for CM, CM @ BOS is a question of time. Rumours are that even PVD had contacted CM to bid on the PTY-Boston route.. PVD runway OK for fully loaded B737 PVD-PTY non-stop take off; IMHO, could only work if PTY-PVD morning, PVD-PTY afternoon because train link to Boston.
TPA, FLL have been in touch with CM. 4th PTY-MCO may operate to TPA.
JAX and RSW likely to contact CM soon, if they've not done it yet.
ATL, real long-shoot.
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:29 pm

I know is a long shot, but I hope is PLS.
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:07 pm

I think CM will launch CWB and SSA in Brazil until S13.

Regarding North America, I think the next destination will be BOS. What about PHL. Is Too close to IAD and JFK?
Can we expect a second Canadian destination soon (YUL) or is YYZ not up to expectation?
 
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:17 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 10):
PHX, as long as US is Star, seems that PHX-PTY (plus PHL-PTY and CLT-PTY) look like potential US routes.

There is very little O&D traffic from PHX or CLT to South America that PTY could feed that would be worth while. PHX has some O&D to Central America, but MEX or SAL would be better hubs to feed it.
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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:35 pm

Quoting winGl3t (Reply 12):
CM will launch CWB and SSA in Brazil until S13.

CM PTY-REC 4x weekly recently started on June 23rd 2012 and Salvador de Bahia was also taken into account as a new potential destination in Brazil.
I agree SSA would be feasible next year.




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Quoting winGl3t (Reply 12):
Can we expect a second Canadian destination soon (YUL) or is YYZ not up to expectation

As far as I know, CM PTY-YYZ is operating as 4x weekly due to the current constraints into the bilateral agreement between Panama and Canada.
I'd expect the CM PTY-YYZ on a daily basis prior to any new Canadian airport operated by the Panamanian flagship airline.

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RE: Copa's Next Destinations?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:26 pm

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 11):
know is a long shot, but I hope is PLS.

Interesting, When it comes to financial-related islands I've also thought of CGM on CM metal and BDA.

Quoting winGl3t (Reply 12):
I think CM will launch CWB and SSA in Brazil until S13.

CM got the rights for both SSA and CWB. Seems CM will fly out of CWB with restricted B737-700/800 whenever CM starts that route.

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Regarding North America, I think the next destination will be BOS. What about PHL. Is Too close to IAD and JFK?
Can we expect a second Canadian destination soon (YUL) or is YYZ not up to expectation?

Agree, BOS is likely to the or among the next CM destination in the States.
CM can't increase frequencies to Canada. Only option right now to increase frequencies is to add "scheduled charters" to YUL and that may not go well with CM business minded planning managers.
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