MHTripple7
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Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:22 pm

I was just in LIS and saw the CEIBA 77L, previously registered 3C-LLS. It now has a Portuguese reg CS-TQX (I think?), and it says "Operated by White Airways" on the side.

Is this perhaps to avoid any EU or U.S. airspace restrictions.
 
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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:04 pm

Quoting MHTripple7 (Thread starter):
Is this perhaps to avoid any EU or U.S. airspace restrictions.

That is probably it. I'm pretty sure Equatorial Guinea is one of those countries which the EU issued a blanket ban against.

Edit: Just checked they are blacklisted.

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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:08 pm

Okay that makes sense. I thought that business jets were exempt from blacklist, but I guess not!
 
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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:23 pm

White told us, that the aircraft will be used for ACMI. So it's not only or not in ops for CEIBA.
 
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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:08 pm

White is a well known ACMI charterer. Is this the first 77L in the world available on ACMI?
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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Quoting viasa (Reply 3):
White told us, that the aircraft will be used for ACMI. So it's not only or not in ops for CEIBA.

Really? I might have a chance of getting on this bird then.
 
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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:03 pm

All i can say about that:

The original 772LR was used as government aircraft for Equatorial Guinea. One might wonder how the country can afford a T7, but once you realize that they are swimming in oil and are the richest country in Africa and #28 in the world it does make sense.

At first President Obiang bought used it as governement and VIP aircraft. The livery was designed by Lila Design (http://www.liladesign.com) and used the livery of airEG as basis.

As far as i know, Ceiba is on the EU blacklist (with excpetions to some a/c types like the T7, which makes me wonder).

The change of operator therefore indeed might be to avoid the blacklist.
 
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RE: Ceiba 777-200LR With Portuguese Reg

Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:35 am

Could always be on ACMI exclusively to the Government of Equatorial Guinea through a complex ownership arrangement. ACMI doesn't necessarily mean an aircraft is publicly available for ad-hoc charter.
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