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OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:44 am

A co-worker said mentioned there's a new SOP in place for OO planes sitting idle on a gate for extended period of time. Their new SOP is to have passenger loading pridge pulled off when a plane is at a gate with no crew member on board. Has anyone heard of this? I have not heard of such coming from OO.
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:50 am

That's standard for every airline. Nothing new there.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:52 am

This is true. The jetway needs to be pulled off so the main door like other access points to the inside of the aircraft can be sealed, this is for over night aircraft though.

As for sitting at the gate for a long turn or any other extended instance of time, I have not heard of this nor do I think it is true...
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:53 am

I realized that on RON sitting. But during the operations where the plane might be schedule to sit for a few hours and heads out again. OO tend to have a/c sitting for a few hours at hubs on reduced schedule day.
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:58 am

Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 3):
I realized that on RON sitting. But during the operations where the plane might be schedule to sit for a few hours and heads out again

No, it applies for any time the plane is going to be unattended. It doesn't matter what time of day.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:01 am

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 4):
No, it applies for any time the plane is going to be unattended. It doesn't matter what time of day.

This isn't CURRENT standard practice, hence the OP saying this is a new SOP. For all DCI operators, if the a/c is going to be at the gate, even if it's a RAD, they won't remove the jetway. It just doesn't happen. Only time the jetway is removed is if it's a RON.

FWIW, as far as I know, the jetway was NOT attached to the a/c at SGU that night, He simply didn't power back enough to clear when he powered out but the jetway wasn't attached. He just opened the door. So, i'm not sure what this has to do with the incident.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:12 am

Is discussing airline security procedures really an appropriate topic to discuss online?
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:13 am

.....nevermind....

removed.

[Edited 2012-08-22 21:14:53]
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:16 am

A co-worker mentioned that after hearing it from a OO pilot. I though that was a little weird . Again, this is not for RON procedure.
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:17 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 6):
Is discussing airline security procedures really an appropriate topic to discuss online?

No, it's not, which is why I'd rather keep it vague.

Actually, I'd rather prefer the mods lock or delete this.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:27 am

because heaven forbid a pilot knows how to use a jetway, or open an RJ door from the ramp.....
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:20 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 5):
This isn't CURRENT standard practice, hence the OP saying this is a new SOP. For all DCI operators, if the a/c is going to be at the gate, even if it's a RAD, they won't remove the jetway. It just doesn't happen. Only time the jetway is removed is if it's a RON.

This is actually not correct. Late last year procedures were changed and all RON DCI aircraft are supposed to have the jetway pulled and the aircraft door closed. Whether stations actually follow it or not is another question  
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:47 pm

Don't Skywest's plane all have air stair doors anyway so this wouldn't stop anyone with ramp access?
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:55 pm

Some security procedures should not be discussed on line. I don't think that applies to knowing that jetliners are not open to the public while no crew is aboard.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:31 am

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 1):
That's standard for every airline. Nothing new there.

Not true. Where I work planes sit for hours at a time with the jetbridge connected and the cabin door open. Any ramper or employee can go into the aircraft at any time.
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:17 am

Quoting crj900lr (Reply 14):

You missed the memo. I said I wanted to keep it vague.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:54 am

The door is to be closed, Jetway pulled and stowed. Belly doors should be closed also. All accessible areas of the aircraft are to be secured.

Had a stow-away recently because this wasn't done.
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:41 am

CRJs have airstairs so I don't see how this will really deter anyone since you'll simply be able to walk right up the stairs.
 
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RE: OO New SOP For Planes Following Incident At SGU

Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:56 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 6):
Is discussing airline security procedures really an appropriate topic to discuss online?
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 15):

You missed the memo. I said I wanted to keep it vague.

Easy, guys. There's nothing that's been said here that you can't find out after 30 minutes watching the action from a parking garage.
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