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Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:23 am

That period was fantastic, commecial aviation was going up, with the arrival of the new giants of the airs, and the airlines had sometimes curious ideas for the uniforms of their crews.

What souvenirs do you have from that period?

For example, let's have a look at these Braniff martians aboard Fat Albert, first Braniff 747, N601BN.



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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:55 am

My souvenir is that i will call her "stewardess" instead of the political correct FA =)
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:01 am

in my part of the world we have thankfully held onto the label "Air Hostess". Those uniforms are stunning.
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:06 am

I have an Emilio Pucci scarf given to me by a former flight attendant.

Here are some links that show what the Braniff flight crew wore:
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic2.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic3.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic25.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic26.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic50.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/1965.html

A 90 piece collection of Braniff flight attendant uniforms last year was bid up to $100,000, but the offer was not accepted by the seller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/90-Piece-Bra...ci-Halston-Collection/180285971101
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:30 am

Funny Braniff international, all was different with that airline.

But the others...
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:53 am

I cannot think any other occupation that has changed as much as the job of a stewardess/steward. The industry has changed so much. My mother started in 1974 as Finnair FA and worked till 2004. When she left, she said well "It is funny, on paper I retire from the job I started in 1974, but if you ask me, it's not the same job!" Also, we saw an ex-colleague of my mother not long time ago. She said "it's still fun, but everything has changed"

As much as the "old eagels" are bashed, I do respect these "pioneers", who saw the change of air travel along with the onboard-service from graceful five-star-restaurant-like service to snack boxes and BOB. Also, it was these "eagles" who faught for better working conditions as air travel expanded. Surely some of the conditions/benefits can be seen exessive in modern world, but certain restrictions, especially those concerning rest periods should not be touched. They should listen to these people who worked before the restrictions were put in place how it was when you had to report to a flight to New York, though only yesterday you had returned from Bangkok. Human body needs rest, this fact does not change even if the industry changes.

I wish all cabin crew happy landings!  

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:02 pm

Bring back the Braniff Space Bubble....its so wrong its gotta be right!
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:20 pm

Oh yes, everything has changes, so I think it is important to remember the past very nice years...

Another airline, Qantas

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:41 pm

Well, I´ve read an essay by a LH stewardess (she used this term with pride) who started in the late 1950s and quit when the 747 was introduced, because with mass air travel she couldn´t give individual service anymore like she was used to.
At the same time rest time between flights was reduced to save cost and she said she was often too tired and not groomed to the previous (high) standards, so she decided to quit.

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:06 pm

Air hostess was not an easy work by the past. One of my friend was working for Air France during the 70s on the 747. She told me during a flight Paris-New-York, she was walking 13 KMS!!! in the airliner.
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:01 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 2):
in my part of the world we have thankfully held onto the label "Air Hostess"
Quoting ATITANIC1992 (Reply 1):
My souvenir is that i will call her "stewardess" instead of the political correct FA =)

TWA always insisted that someone serving in the cabin be called a 'Hostess'. The title had to be changed when the first male F/As were hired in the late 1960s. The only men working prior to that were the Pursers on international flights.
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:12 pm

Quoting DID747 (Reply 7):
Another airline, Qantas

The guy in the window seat definitely has a "look" in his eyes in that photo.
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:52 pm

It's hard to think that the F/A's in that first Braniff photos are now grandmotherly women! Time marches on!
But you can bet anything that they are still ladies!
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:39 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 12):
It's hard to think that the F/A's in that first Braniff photos are now grandmotherly women

Braniff went bankrupt on May 12, 1982 - over 30 years ago. Assuming the youngest F/A at the time was 25 years old at bankruptcy, the youngest Braniff F/As would be at least 55 years old today.
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:48 pm

Best website I know for a photogallery FULL of Airline's uniforms ("1132 different uniforms from 443 airlines") is www.uniformfreak.com

This is a KLM Steward who collects uniforms from all over the world. A facinating look at the some of the bizarre choices of some airlines through the year!
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:07 am

Don't forget advertising from that era, focusing on flight attendants.

We have come a long, long way since the old National Airlines “Fly Me” campaign of the early 1970s. “I’m Lorraine,” a seductively posed stewardess would say to the camera. “Fly me to Orlando.”

Braniff had a similar pitch, called the “air strip,” showing attractive young stewardesses changing uniforms mid-flight to the sound of suggestive music.


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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:24 am

Who needs AVOD when you can sit and study those 'masterpieces of fabric design' for 12 hours!
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:44 am

Airline sales pitches? How about Delta? Ready when you are. Piedmont? The up and coming airline? Those Braniff uniforms look like a nightmare. Remember the mini skirt stewardess uniform? I loved it when they would serve a passenger in the window seat. I even snapped a few photos of that! Ahhh...the old days.
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:31 am

Quoting type-rated (Reply 12):
The guy in the window seat definitely has a "look" in his eyes in that photo.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who noticed, the first thing I saw on the Qantas pic was how creepy the guy in the window seat looked!
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:05 am

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 18):

I wouldn't say he looks creepy, maybe a bit geeky   And his eyes, looking at her under the eye brows, says "oh my..." knowing he doesn't stand a chance!   that's my interpretation, anyway   She seems to be a real looker, tall, blond, slim and she seems to be wearing very high high heels..=sexy!   Anyone else sees that?

Uniforms used to be more important to airlines. At Finnair, till early 1990's the airline had different uniforms for summer and winter. Real mink fur (not flame me for this!) hats during winter ops and Pierre Cardin designed silk scarfs...

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:00 am

Let's have a look at this passenger, on an Alitalia 747 flight, this man doesn't look happy but angry...

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:43 am

I think this one's kinda creepy

Think of her as your mother

American Airlines - 1968

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:23 am

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
That period was fantastic, commecial aviation was going up, with the arrival of the new giants of the airs, and the airlines had sometimes curious ideas for the uniforms of their crews.

For anyone interested in the history of the stewardess, I recommend the following book written by a retired BOAC/British Airways stewardess. I picked up a copy that I spotted at random in a bookshop in London on a trip a few weeks ago.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glamour-Skie...ss/dp/0752449044#reader_0752449044

Click the "first pages" link on the left for some sample pages. It focuses on what she refers to as the "golden age" of the stewardess in the 1950s through the 80s. Although the contents are mainly devoted to BOAC/British Airways and their predecessors (e.g. BEA), it covers the general subject quite will with many references to other carriers. It also focuses mainly on the stewardess, not the male cabin crew members. Includes many photos from the early days and reminiscenses from dozens of cabin crew who worked during that period. It contains a few technical errors but in general it's very well written.

I note the Amazon entry says it's hardcover, but my copy is softcover.

[Edited 2012-08-24 03:26:34]
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:40 am

Quoting DID747 (Reply 9):
Air hostess was not an easy work by the past. One of my friend was working for Air France during the 70s on the 747. She told me during a flight Paris-New-York, she was walking 13 KMS!!! in the airliner.

It's still a hard job !  

Although, London to New York is one of the shortest sectors I do.
The longest sector I do is LHR - HKG - SYD - HKG - LHR, being away from home for upto 10 days.

I work on the 747 (amongst other long haul aircraft) and trust me I am always exhausted after a long flight ! Sometimes with very short lay overs. However, I love my job and wouldn't change it for anything !

Luckily now, I only work in Upper Class !  

I still think though, with some airlines the glamour of flying is still there.
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:52 am

Quoting virgincrew (Reply 23):

Not sure about the glamour part... If you think of the golden era, when people would dress up in order to take a flight.. People would be impressed when you told you work as cabin crew. Husbands would be proud their wives are/were cabin crew. The whole atmosphere around it was different. Now, it's just another job, indeed the "aura" around is gone.

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:35 am

Quoting okAY (Reply 24):
Not sure about the glamour part... If you think of the golden era, when people would dress up in order to take a flight.. People would be impressed when you told you work as cabin crew. Husbands would be proud their wives are/were cabin crew. The whole atmosphere around it was different. Now, it's just another job, indeed the "aura" around is gone.

I totally agree about the 'golden age of flying' being over, when people dressed etc..

But people are still impressed and really interested when I tell them I am Long Haul Cabin Crew.

Especially in the UK, if you say you work for VS or BA - people that aren't aviation freeks (like us) are impressed. I wouldn't say it's 'just another job'.

I am still very proud to be known as cabin crew.
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:27 pm

I have my aunties TAA (Trans Australian Airlines) cabin bag from the early 80's.

Lots of the crew I work with at BA started in the early 70's. Many of the say in some ways the job is harder these days (less crew on board, shortler slips) but in some ways easier (IFE to keep them amused!). It's funny how things have come full circle as well in the industry. For example many of the older BA crew speak of the days in the 80's when they used to charge for drinks and headsets on domestic flights.

I flew with one BA stewardess a couple years ago that started in the late 60's. She was telling us all about the job back then. The stewardesses had to go to the catering warehouse the day before each flight to order the stock for their flight the following day!
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:00 pm

Air France has brought a lot of improvement. At one time the new air hostesses recruits were not really at the top. From my recent flights with them, it seems things have changed for the better.

The Air France Concorde air hostess



Madam, this is your flight certificate for breaking the sound barrier on board our Air France Concorde.

  

Air France hostesses uniforms



  

Air France 2012 The air hostess uniform



  
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:29 pm

South African Airways during the 70s-80s. An hostess in front of the first SAA 747-200 ZS-SAN "Lebombo".

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:04 am

I can't believe not one person has mentioned the legendary PSA flight attendant uniforms, with the minis and the go-go boots. I'm not able to attach a link off my android phone, so hopefully someone else has one to post. You know, the 70's era, when they had their L-1011's.
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:49 am

I think with regards to uniforms and branding as whole airlines are re-newing the level of attention paid by to style and a sense of modern fashion. The late 80s and 90s certainly wasn't a period that I would recall with great excitement regarding style within the industry, like earlier periods.

Whilst previously we have seen the American then European carriers along Australian, and finally Asian and Middle-Eastern carriers paying attention and leading the way, the new Delta uniform showed us that the US industry is changing into a new more modern beast. I personally am looking forward to AA leaving bankruptcy to see their new re-invigorated branding. Hopefully creating a renewed sense of style and excitement within a very dynamic, people intensive and exciting industry!

Got to love this uniform from QF though, could they have worn anymore colours? Not to mention look at that moustache! scarily impressive!


Moving forward some of the best uniforms in my opinion would have to be KE, EY, GA, BA, LA, QF, VS, AF. But that is equally about grooming as uniform design but don't get me started on that  

My family is a flying family (Dad, Mum, Step-Mum, Aunt and Myself all flying, about 100years of flying between us) and yet we still find it a fascinating industry to work, still glamorous, its all about perceptions and attitude! That doesn't mean most days aren't challenging however!
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:46 pm

Here's the PSA Tristar and crew members.

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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:31 am

Quoting DID747 (Reply 31):
Here's the PSA Tristar and crew members

Thank you so very much for the incredible blast from the past photograph, I remember these gals from my youngest years, of course the PSA planes as well, not that it happened much, but when Dad & Mom took us to see family it was on PSA, I think my Dad liked the ladies serving us beverages, my Mom, not so much. 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:13 pm

Quoting DID747 (Reply 31):
Here's the PSA Tristar and crew members.

What a great photo! I recognize the fifth gal down on the far right row. She's a good friend of mine. She just recently retired from US AIRWAYS. Prior to that, she spent decades commuting from San Diego to PIttsburgh and later Philadelphia.
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:50 pm

Some more photos showing PSA, the tristar and the crew members...



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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:26 pm

Thanks for the additional PSA photos. Don't know the lone gal standing with the 1011, but the two girls laying across the seat backs in the center photo are still with US AIRWAYS. So in keeping with the topic, I guess you can count the actual people from that era as "souveniers" that are still around to this day.
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:12 pm

Good old Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) based in KSAN. It was a less politically correct time when the airlines could shamelessly hire stewardesses-flight attendants- for their California beach girl appearance and not drumbeat the fact that they were there mainly for the passengers safety. Among those clad in PSA's form-fitting uniforms was Terri Welles who went on to more fame as Playboy's Playmate of the Year 1981.

I'll let you do the web search on Ms. Welles for further study.  
 
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:25 am

For some reason those PSA uniforms look very much like the early Southwest uniforms, the ones with the white go go boots.
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RE: Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s

Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:48 am

Quoting DID747 (Reply 34):
Some more photos showing PSA, the tristar and the crew members...

Goodness...i'll be much obliged to sop her up with my Momma's biscuits...
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