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Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:54 am

So far the routes are DEN-NRT, LAX-NRT, LAX-PVG, IAH-LOS, IAH-LHR, and IAH-FRA. Have any guesses on future 787 routes?
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:00 am

IAH-HKG, IAH-SCL, IAH- BRU, IAH-OSL
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:30 am

My routes.....
EWR-GRU, EWR-GIG, LAX-CDG, SFO-BRU, EWR-PVG.
EWR-PVG might not be doing too well with the 777.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:43 am

Hmmm... I wonder what they are planning on doing with the 777's that currently operate the LAX-NRT, LAX-PVG routes
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:45 am

Quoting platinumfoota (Reply 3):
Hmmm... I wonder what they are planning on doing with the 777's that currently operate the LAX-NRT, LAX-PVG routes

Good question... IDK
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:54 am

Quoting platinumfoota (Reply 3):
Hmmm... I wonder what they are planning on doing with the 777's that currently operate the LAX-NRT, LAX-PVG routes

I was under the impression they were adding a flight to these routes. I've been on most of them and they're pretty packed. Especially NRT...
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:23 am

Packed with low yields. The 787 will improve the profit margins.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:22 am

Anything from NRT? I have a feeling CAN is on the list from there. (even if they already have a route from SFO)

Or would the SFO flight to CAN be better suited on a 787?

Quoting platinumfoota (Reply 3):
I wonder what they are planning on doing with the 777's that currently operate the LAX-NRT, LAX-PVG routes

Would euro/east asia routes make sense with a 777?
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:38 am

Quoting CZ346 (Reply 5):
I was under the impression they were adding a flight to these routes. I've been on most of them and they're pretty packed. Especially NRT...

They are definitely not. These are replacing flights.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):

Anything from NRT? I have a feeling CAN is on the list from there. (even if they already have a route from SFO)

Or would the SFO flight to CAN be better suited on a 787?

They dont have one... and they didn't apply for NRT-CAN.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 1):
IAH-HKG, IAH-SCL, IAH- BRU, IAH-OSL

Why do you think they will fly to Oslo? Seriously I want to know.

I was 13 once too, dude. But this is actually (sometimes) a serious website. They fly 1 757 a day there today that goes out half empty.

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[Edited 2012-08-26 22:40:41]
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:14 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 8):
Quoting CZ346 (Reply 5):
I was under the impression they were adding a flight to these routes. I've been on most of them and they're pretty packed. Especially NRT...

They are definitely not. These are replacing flights.

I'm a bit surprised at the aforementioned LAX-NRT route being downgauged to a 787. Is this route really stretching thin?

When I flew to NRT on the 77L from DL, that plane was packed. For example: A Japanese family of 3 on standby ended up being rerouted to HNL in order to get to Japan.

I'm surprised UA is having a problem with filling the route to a decent load factor.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:15 am

They have a huge load. (giggity).

They, like DL, have awful yields.

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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:58 am

Looks like we have confirmation of LAX-PVG. Added in the mix is Lagos. Good times!!    Surprised UA hasn't entertained New Zealand again.

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-08/26/content_15706814.htm
 
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:59 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 8):
I was 13 once too, dude. But this is actually (sometimes) a serious website. They fly 1 757 a day there today that goes out half empty.

Really??? Where do you get your info?
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:07 am

Will they not be running 787 on LHR-ORD ?
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:56 pm

Quoting holidaycharter (Reply 13):

not right now.
 
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:58 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 8):
Why do you think they will fly to Oslo? Seriously I want to know.

I think because SK had mentioned a IAH-OSL flight to connect to the oil fields at Stavanger. Not gonna happen on UA metal...and I seriously doubt it on SK.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 9):
I'm a bit surprised at the aforementioned LAX-NRT route being downgauged to a 787. Is this route really stretching thin?

When I flew to NRT on the 77L from DL, that plane was packed. For example: A Japanese family of 3 on standby ended up being rerouted to HNL in order to get to Japan.

I'm surprised UA is having a problem with filling the route to a decent load factor.

The load factor is fine but the yields are low...its 8 airlines on the route. Its about yield management - they will be able to make more money with the 787 on the route...presumably.

Quoting holidaycharter (Reply 13):
Will they not be running 787 on LHR-ORD ?

Not right now. There is another thread that answers all these questions - in fact I don't know how this redundant thread made it past 'big brother'.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:46 pm

Ok, so IAH-OSL is out, IAH- Tel Aviv Israel then.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:51 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 16):

I dont think you are going to find this either. Plenty of other routes that possibly offer more.........IAH-Asia, increasing SFO/LAX/EWR - Asia traffic. EWR/IAH/ORD-EMEAI
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:52 pm

IAD-HKG

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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:52 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 16):
Ok, so IAH-OSL is out, IAH- Tel Aviv Israel then.

IAD-TLV has a much higher chance than IAH-TLV in my opinion.
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:04 pm

SFO-CAN, IAH-SCL, IAH-MVD, EWR-CAI, IAD-TLV, IAD-JNB.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 1):
IAH-HKG, IAH-SCL, IAH- BRU, IAH-OSL

IAH-SCL -- definitely never IAH-OSL and fat chance for IAH-HKG. IAH-EWR-OSL is already operated with a 752.

Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 2):

Can they fly EWR-GIG? Aren't the rights to fly directly into GIG from IAH?

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):

Definitely towards the top for speculated routes. Although right after they announced the merger they were thinking of flying SFO-TLV with a 762. Personally I thought that would have never worked out as well an ORD or IAD - TLV routing.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 20):
Can they fly EWR-GIG? Aren't the rights to fly directly into GIG from IAH?

Ok, then EWR-GRU.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:25 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 20):
Definitely towards the top for speculated routes. Although right after they announced the merger they were thinking of flying SFO-TLV with a 762. Personally I thought that would have never worked out as well an ORD or IAD - TLV routing.

I think LAX-TLV has a better chance because El-Al actually flies to LAX.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:01 pm

IAH-OSL? That seems like a BIG stretch.
 
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:04 pm

Quoting MAV88 (Reply 23):
IAH-OSL? That seems like a BIG stretch.

Maybe...maybe not...
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/07/...airlines-face-off-with-new-routes/

Rewind about 10 years ago, thats what I would have said about SQ...and QR...and EK...and TK...serving IAH.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:34 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 24):

Drex, IAH-OSL ain't happening. That's why there's a one stop via EWR.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:44 pm

I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) that no-one has suggested resurrecting IAH-AKL.

It can't have been THAT bad an idea as it was on the books for ages.

Furthermore, the feed in and out of Australia should be helpful too. Just look at the success of the QF DFW-BNE-SYD flight.
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:50 pm

From IAH toAMS is also on the map for the 787's from UA.   Starting December.

See: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...s-787-international-routes-375732/

[Edited 2012-08-27 11:51:08]
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:51 pm

I think somebody should suggest ressurecting IAH-AKL.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:52 pm

Quoting Dalavia (Reply 26):
I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) that no-one has suggested resurrecting IAH-AKL.

I'd say SFO or LAX to AKL on the 787 ahead of houston.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 8):
Why do you think they will fly to Oslo? Seriously I want to know.

It might not happen with UA... but Houston has the largest Norwegian business community ouside Norway these days, and its importance is even increasing. Oil related traffic to/from Norway would be the business of course - where KLM and Lufthansa are big today!

UA038/039 route number from Oslo to New York continues to Houston today (however in another plane from EWR).

SAS is seriously considering Houston as a destination from Scandinavia (Oslo/Stavanger/Copenhagen), because of this fact... maybe Norwegian as well... when they receive their B787's next year.

I also heard that PIA Pakistan were considering Houston via Oslo, but that the Norwegian business community were reluctant to promise enough traffic and to tie up with them.
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
IAD-TLV has a much higher chance than IAH-TLV in my opinion.

I hear rumbles of SFO-TLV being right up there.

I am also surprised that talk of SFO-BLR/etc hasn't come up more. Those routes are the perfect kinds of high-tech winners that UA likes to bat for.

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Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:35 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 31):
I am also surprised that talk of SFO-BLR/etc hasn't come up more. Those routes are the perfect kinds of high-tech winners that UA likes to bat for.

SFO-DEL/BOM has higher priority than BLR. A 789 *may* work, but only if oil stabilizes around $70-80.
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:04 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 25):
Drex, IAH-OSL ain't happening. That's why there's a one stop via EWR.

Not via UA at least.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 29):
I'd say SFO or LAX to AKL on the 787 ahead of houston.

I agree

Quoting vadheim (Reply 30):
I also heard that PIA Pakistan were considering Houston via Oslo, but that the Norwegian business community were reluctant to promise enough traffic and to tie up with them.

PIA...that would be what there 3rd time attempting IAH. I do miss their classic 747s here though.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:10 pm

UNITED AIRLINES ANNOUNCES FIRST 787
INTERNATIONAL ROUTES

INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS WILL START IN JANUARY 2013
ON UNITED’S BOEING 787 DREAMLINER
CHICAGO, Aug. 23, 2012 – United Airlines today announced the first international routes for the airline’s newest addition to its fleet, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. In addition to the previously-announced service from its Denver hub to Tokyo Narita, starting March 31, 2013, the airline will operate nonstop 787 service five days a week between its Houston hub and Lagos, Nigeria, beginning Jan. 7, 2013. United will also operate daily, nonstop 787 service between its Los Angeles hub and its Narita hub, beginning Jan. 3, 2013, and Los Angeles to Shanghai, beginning March 30, 2013.
United will also operate daily, nonstop 787 service from its Houston hub to Amsterdam and London Heathrow on a temporary basis. Houston to Amsterdam service begins Dec. 4, 2012, and Houston to London Heathrow service begins Feb. 4, 2013.
“The 787 is the right aircraft for these routes because of its many passenger-friendly amenities and superior operating economics,” says United’s Senior Vice President of Network, Greg Hart. “With 50 787s on order, we look forward to the many new route opportunities that will become available to United and our customers in the future.”
The 787 aircraft will display for sale for these routes on united.com and other distribution channels beginning Aug. 25, while Denver to Narita service is available for sale now. In the near future, United will announce plans for initial domestic flying for the 787, which will precede the launch of international flights described above.
Configured with 36 seats in United BusinessFirst, 72 seats in United Economy Plus and 111 seats in United Economy, the Dreamliner will revolutionize the flying experience for United customers and crews while delivering unprecedented operating efficiency, comfort and lower emissions. Customers will experience greater comfort with improved lighting, bigger windows, larger overhead bins, lower cabin altitude and enhanced ventilation systems, among other passenger-friendly features.
Recent photos of United’s first 787 aircraft are available for download in the media center on unitedcontinentalholdings.com under “First 787 Production Flight.”
About United
United Airlines and United Express operate an average of 5,574 flights a day to 377 airports on six continents from our hubs in Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, Guam, Houston, Los Angeles, New York/Newark, San Francisco, Tokyo and Washington, D.C. In 2011, United carried more traffic than any other airline in the world, and operated more than two million flights carrying 142 million passengers. United is upgrading its cabins with more flat-bed seats in first and business class and more extra-legroom economy-class seating than any other airline in North America. United operates nearly 700 mainline aircraft and has orders for more than 270 new aircraft deliveries through 2022, including 50 Boeing 787 Dreamliners, 25 Airbus A350XWBs, and 100 Boeing 737 MAX 9 aircraft. United was rated the world’s most admired airline on FORTUNE magazine’s 2012 airline-industry list of the World’s Most Admired Companies. Readers of Global Traveler magazine have voted United’s MileagePlus program the best frequent flyer program for eight consecutive years. United is a founding member of Star Alliance, which provides service to 193 countries via 27 member airlines. More than 85,000 United employees reside in every U.S. state and in countries around the world. For more information, visit united.com or follow United on Twitter and Facebook. The common stock of United’s parent, United Continental Holdings, Inc., is traded on the NYSE under the symbol UAL.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:06 pm

Quoting catiii (Reply 34):
UNITED AIRLINES ANNOUNCES FIRST 787
INTERNATIONAL ROUTES

INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS WILL START IN JANUARY 2013
ON UNITED’S BOEING 787 DREAMLINER
CHICAGO, Aug. 23, 2012 – United Airlines today announced the first international routes for the airline’s newest addition to its fleet, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. In addition to the previously-announced service from its Denver hub to Tokyo Narita, starting March 31, 2013, the airline will operate nonstop 787 service five days a week between its Houston hub and Lagos, Nigeria, beginning Jan. 7, 2013. United will also operate daily, nonstop 787 service between its Los Angeles hub and its Narita hub, beginning Jan. 3, 2013, and Los Angeles to Shanghai, beginning March 30, 2013.
United will also operate daily, nonstop 787 service from its Houston hub to Amsterdam and London Heathrow on a temporary basis. Houston to Amsterdam service begins Dec. 4, 2012, and Houston to London Heathrow service begins Feb. 4, 2013.
“The 787 is the right aircraft for these routes because of its many passenger-friendly amenities and superior operating economics,” says United’s Senior Vice President of Network, Greg Hart. “With 50 787s on order, we look forward to the many new route opportunities that will become available to United and our customers in the future.”
The 787 aircraft will display for sale for these routes on united.com and other distribution channels beginning Aug. 25, while Denver to Narita service is available for sale now. In the near future, United will announce plans for initial domestic flying for the 787, which will precede the launch of international flights described above.
Configured with 36 seats in United BusinessFirst, 72 seats in United Economy Plus and 111 seats in United Economy, the Dreamliner will revolutionize the flying experience for United customers and crews while delivering unprecedented operating efficiency, comfort and lower emissions. Customers will experience greater comfort with improved lighting, bigger windows, larger overhead bins, lower cabin altitude and enhanced ventilation systems, among other passenger-friendly features.
Recent photos of United’s first 787 aircraft are available for download in the media center on unitedcontinentalholdings.com under “First 787 Production Flight.”
About United
United Airlines and United Express operate an average of 5,574 flights a day to 377 airports on six continents from our hubs in Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, Guam, Houston, Los Angeles, New York/Newark, San Francisco, Tokyo and Washington, D.C. In 2011, United carried more traffic than any other airline in the world, and operated more than two million flights carrying 142 million passengers. United is upgrading its cabins with more flat-bed seats in first and business class and more extra-legroom economy-class seating than any other airline in North America. United operates nearly 700 mainline aircraft and has orders for more than 270 new aircraft deliveries through 2022, including 50 Boeing 787 Dreamliners, 25 Airbus A350XWBs, and 100 Boeing 737 MAX 9 aircraft. United was rated the world’s most admired airline on FORTUNE magazine’s 2012 airline-industry list of the World’s Most Admired Companies. Readers of Global Traveler magazine have voted United’s MileagePlus program the best frequent flyer program for eight consecutive years. United is a founding member of Star Alliance, which provides service to 193 countries via 27 member airlines. More than 85,000 United employees reside in every U.S. state and in countries around the world. For more information, visit united.com or follow United on Twitter and Facebook. The common stock of United’s parent, United Continental Holdings, Inc., is traded on the NYSE under the symbol UAL.

I KNOW that already. We are discussing POSSIBLE routes for the UA 787.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:14 pm

Anyone think DEN-LHR round 2 is possible?
 
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:43 pm

No routes to/from ORD for the foreseeable future?!?
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

Quoting ORDfan (Reply 37):
No routes to/from ORD for the foreseeable future?!?

In the near term...probably IAH.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:13 pm

Quoting ORDfan (Reply 37):
No routes to/from ORD for the foreseeable future?!?

You can predict any route from ORD in this thread.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:41 pm

Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 39):
You can predict any route from ORD in this thread.

Thanks, um, boss?

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 36):
Anyone think DEN-LHR round 2 is possible?

DEN-LHR is definitely going to be a thing, but I don't know how far up on the priority that will be.

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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:42 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 16):
IAH- Tel Aviv Israel then.

I know IAH is the 787 crew base.

But wouldn't ORD-TLV make more sense?
 
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:45 pm

ORD will see the 787 in the future soon.
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Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:31 am

Existing routes that might make sense for the 787:

SEA-NRT, ORD-GRU
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Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:36 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 43):

IAH-GRU too.
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RE: Any More UA 787 Routes?

Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:00 am

I wonder if they will launch any new routes from IAH?

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Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:07 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 45):

I think they will.
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Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:10 am

I hope they start more routes from IAH. Perhaps IAH-IBZ. That'd be dope.

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Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:17 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 47):

I think IAH-SCL, IAH-ICN, IAH-Taipei.
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Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:20 am

I hope they fly IAH-ORY with it.

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