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Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:48 am

Not quite sure where this topic belongs, but I'm sure the mods will move it to the correct place. When baseball teams (or any pro sports team) flies to their next game, is there a dedicated single airplane that the team leases or owns to use, or do they pay the local airline to use one of their airplanes? A few weeks ago I posted a thread about the Oakland A's charter and it was just a no name chater airline, but when I checked about the Chicago White Sox coming to BWI, i think I found on flightaware that they may have used an A320 from UA.

Also, when teams go to Canada for games, do they go through the normal Customs process that we go through? I would think not since I wouldn't imagine pro teams walking through an airport like everyday civilians. Thanks guys!
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:45 am

Depending on the team, they either own there own planes or charter from an airline. I know that the Detroit Tigers and Detroit Red Wings share a MD80 (N682RW). For TSA, they actually have some of the security staff certified as TSA agents and they screen them at the stadium. They then take the team bus right to the plane. As for baseball players going thru customs in Canada, not quite sure how it works going into Canada but since the only team is the Toronto Blue Jays, they have US Customs screen the players before leaving YYZ.
 
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:53 am

Here in DFW, all of our sports teams except the Cowboys have their own planes. The Rangers and Stars share a 727 and Cuban owns a 757 for the Mavericks.
The Rangers recently played in Toronto and their was a big stink because one of the pitchers didn't bring his passport and was not allowed into Canada. I got the impression from sports talk radio that the players do not go through immigration like you and I but there is something set up at the GA terminal.
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:26 am

Most (if not all) Canadian hockey teams and some US NHL teams use AC Jetz (a charter division of AC that uses all J seating A320s for sports teams, band tours and corporate flights). As there are only 5 or 6 planes under Jetz, they normally don't stay for the duration of a team's visit to another city as there are other charters to be handled. Some of the NHL teams do have their own plane, or at least one that they share with a related team (e.g. the Detroit Red Wings share a plane with the Tigers, both are owned by Mike Ilitch)
 
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:30 am

Was the dispute a few years ago about Canadian airlines (i.e., Air Canada Jetz) flying domestic U.S. revenue flights resolved or is it still outstanding?
 
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:35 pm

No NFL team has an exclusive or private plane any more, I guess the last exclusive was the Raiders' N593HA and the last team owned plane was the Seahawks' Paul Allen 752.

The Oakland A's recently have used Cuban's N801DM (752) or a 762 from Swift; the Rangers also use Swift. The Rockies have a 727 but they also used Miami Air, the Tigers fly on N682RW, the rest of MLB use standard aircraft from the airlines.

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 4):
Was the dispute a few years ago about Canadian airlines (i.e., Air Canada Jetz) flying domestic U.S. revenue flights resolved or is it still outstanding?

Yes, that has been resolved. AC Jetz flies all the Canadian NHL teams as well as the Carolina Hurricanes and Los Angeles Kings.
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:37 pm

Kings flew DL last year, typically onboard the VIP configed A319. There is no specific aircraft per team, however, the FA's are asssigned certain teams, pilots are any and all, no special group for the charters.

As for NHL teams that DL flies, I don't have the updated map but on the list is

Minnesota Wild
Philadelphia Flyers

Unconfirmed for 2012- LA Kings.
 
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:03 pm

The Tampa Bay Rays are always on Delta 8898. Usually a 738, but sometimes an A320. You can see their recent roadtrips on FlightAware.
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:33 pm

So how is it decided which pilots/FAs get to work the sports charter flights? Are these charter flights treated just like any other trip that you bid for, or is there some special process?
 
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:40 pm

Quoting Yflyer (Reply 8):

The flight crew are a regular bid(AC pilot Doug Morris mentioned it on his now-shutdown blog), but I believe though that the cabin crew are dedicated for the season.

To add to the charter list, the Washington Capitals use AC. If you watch the second season of 24/7 (Caps vs. Penguins) you can see the plane several times.
 
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:50 pm

Quoting legion242 (Reply 2):
The Rangers recently played in Toronto and their was a big stink because one of the pitchers didn't bring his passport and was not allowed into Canada.

That's not the whole story, and I don't think I ever heard the whole story. The catch is that the pitcher involved was Ryan Dempster, who is Canadian.

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 4):
Was the dispute a few years ago about Canadian airlines (i.e., Air Canada Jetz) flying domestic U.S. revenue flights resolved or is it still outstanding?

The issue was that some people were riding the charter from one point in the US to another point, but not taking the whole trip so it was basically a domestic flight.
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RE: Sports Charters/How Do They Work?

Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:54 am

Phoenix Coyotes utilize a 727 N698SS. It is flown by Paradigm Air based out of Dallas, TX. The aircraft is currently based at PHX, awaiting its next fait as either the Phoenix Coyotes plane, or someone else. Great pics on A.net if people are interested!

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