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Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:57 am

Hello, all:

With the US/Canada Open Skies agreement, can any airline from the US and Canada fly anywhere between the US and Canada the offers custom facilities? I want to take this one step deeper...Could a Canadian regional airline like Island Express Air from Abbotsford fly to SEA?
 
yegbey01
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:01 am

Absolutely....I think the only requirement is to have Immigration and Customs facility on the US side. In the last 10 years or so, the US-Canada market has exponentially grown. Even small markets like: YXE, YQR, YLW, YXU, etc... now have multiple flights to the US.
 
ghYHZ
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:34 am

A small local carrier on the east coast provides this type of service. Twin Cities Air flies a Cessna 402 between PWM and YQI across the Gulf of Maine. It’s Yarmouth’s only airline service now…..Air Canada once had DC9s to BOS.

http://www.twincitiesairservice.com/schedule.html
 
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:37 pm

I remember when AC flew the -9s to Yarmouth. Always seemed an odd stop to me, but probably not many carriers wanting the BOS-YQI authority. Checking the fares, certainly not inexpensive, as I would expect. Bet it is a nice trip in sunny weather!
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ghYHZ
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:38 pm

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 3):
Always seemed an odd stop to me, but probably not many carriers wanting the BOS-YQI authority.

It was mainly a YHZ-BOS service but there was enough traffic YQI-BOS to warrant a stop there (strong ties between the Maritimes and New England)

YQI-YHZ was operated as a domestic route so all passengers arriving from BOS on the DC9 had to clear Canada Custom in the tiny Yarmouth terminal before continuing on to YHZ.
 
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:24 pm

If it could have worked on scheduling, might have made more sense to run a stand-alone BOS-YQI flight, as well as the three YHZ-BOS flights. Doing BOS-YQI-YHZ would have been a pain. Or, if they could have at the time, subcontracted BOS-YQI.

Was similar with the 3x YVR-YYJ-SEA Viscount service back in the day. SEA-YVR pax had to deplane and do customs in YYJ - which, in those days, was a 'basic' airport. And UA were able to run SEA-YVR direct at that same time.

All history now, of course.
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:34 pm

There’s also stories of the morning YHZ-YQI-BOS flight that couldn’t land in Yarmouth due to fog and just continued on to BOS. Passengers planning to deplane in YQI now found themselves in a foreign county. US Customs were cool with this and they were just dropped off on the return flight after the fog lifted.

Service eventually was transferred from AC to QK (Air Nova at the time) with separate YHZ-BOS and seasonal YQI-BOS flights. Air Atlantic (a CP connector) even served YQI for awhile.
 
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RE: Canada Open Skies?

Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:07 am

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 5):
Was similar with the 3x YVR-YYJ-SEA Viscount service back in the day. SEA-YVR pax had to deplane and do customs in YYJ - which, in those days, was a 'basic' airport. And UA were able to run SEA-YVR direct at that same time.

I've always been curious how TCA/AC lost their nonstop YVR-SEA traffic rights. That was ironic since YVR-SEA was TCA's inaugural route, 75 years ago last week (September 1, 1937). UA later became the only carrier permitted to operate the route nonstop for several decades.