AIR MALTA
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BA Back To Monrovia?!

Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:46 pm

Some good news for BA after the QF/EK affair. BA is considering serving Monrovia again. This is according to an article from allAfrica.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201209050730.html

BA is going to increase its flights to Freetown from April 2012 to 3 weekly (up from 2). It would then make sense to link the 2 to start with (LHR-FNA-ROB-FNA-LHR).
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MANfan
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:19 pm

It will be operated by a 767-300 from what I've heard, and the route is linked as you suggest, subject to final approval.

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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:25 pm

I thought that this was because of the hotel situation in Freetown?
BA Security are not happy with the crew hotel there, and the crew will stay in
Monrovia instead? So might as well call it a new route!
 
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:11 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 2):
Monrovia instead? So might as well call it a new route!

They might route it LHR-ROB-FNA-ROB-LHR or even a triangular LHR-ROB-FNA-LHR.

From Apr 2013, BA flight arrives at FNA at 0525 and leaves to LHR at 1100. There is plenty of time to introduce a sector to ROB as flying time between ROB and FNA is only 50 minutes.

It would be nice to see BA expand in West Africa including Banjul. French speaking countries should be left to IB including BKO and ABJ on top of DKR and NKC.
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:36 pm

Quoting AIR MALTA (Thread starter):
BA is going to increase its flights to Freetown from April 2012 to 3 weekly (up from 2). It would then make sense to link the 2 to start with (LHR-FNA-ROB-FNA-LHR).

Thats exactly what they are going to do. Flights will operate LHR-FNA-ROB-FNA-LHR. Flights to ROB will go on sale once the necessary government approval is received. BA will open ROB as a destination hopefully starting in late October. Expect a announcement in the coming weeks. BA will not sell tickets for travel purely between FNA and ROB

It is correct the crew will not be staying in this is due in part to security but also due to a lack of suitable secure hotels near the airport. BA did find suitable hotels in Freetown however none of them are less the 2 hours each way by bus which is too far for rest purposes etc.
 
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:52 pm

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 4):
Flights will operate LHR-FNA-ROB-FNA-LHR

Are the crews allowed to operate 2 sectors meaning LHR-FNA-ROB in one day??

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 4):
BA will not sell tickets for travel purely between FNA and ROB

Why not, AT and ET are selling tickets between ROB and FNA?
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:33 am

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 5):
Are the crews allowed to operate 2 sectors meaning LHR-FNA-ROB in one day??

I guess they are, jus like AF crews on those type of very short legs ...

AF's crew are doing CDG-NIM-OUA, CDG-RUH-JIB, CDG-DLA-SSG, or CDG-NKC-CKY so I guess LHR-FNA-ROB shouldn't be a problem or BA's Crews.

For Security reasons, AF Crews are not allowed to stay over in FNA or ROB ... They stay in CKY.
 
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:30 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
For Security reasons, AF Crews are not allowed to stay over in FNA or ROB ... They stay in CKY.

Would it then possible to route everything via Banjul or Dakar where the crews can rest in a safe place?
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:54 am

The transit from Freetown Lungi International airport to the city centre is approx 4hours!!! - a lot of operational risk with crew etc if delayed out of LHR etc.. Makes sense to tag another destination on the other end....
 
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:04 am

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 5):

Double sectors are no issue for BA crews.....it's already being done, e.g. in the Middle East on AUH/MCT  
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:24 am

Quoting edina (Reply 9):
Double sectors are no issue for BA crews.....it's already being done, e.g. in the Middle East on AUH/MCT

BAH-DOH also not to mention a whole load of caribbean links.

Suppose now we know where were going on the Freetown service. Must admit, Id have preferred (or at least felt more comfortable) Conakry!
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:20 pm

Quoting blackwidow (Reply 8):
The transit from Freetown Lungi International airport to the city centre is approx 4hours!!! - a lot of operational risk with crew etc if delayed out of LHR etc.. Makes sense to tag another destination on the other end....

There is a quicker alternative in those dodgy Ukrainian helicopters.

That said, I have colleagues who spend considerable time in both Freetown and Monrovia. From what I hear: despite the brutal civil (that's an interesting contradictio in termine...) wars in everybody's mind, both are now enjoyable and relaxed cities, and much safer than some of the other West-African capitals.
 
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 11):
There is a quicker alternative in those dodgy Ukrainian helicopters.

The helicopter service has been discontinued in 2011. Some of my colleagues have used it and it did not feel safe according to them.
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:19 pm

I just did a random search on the BA website and found flights availabe:
BA0137 LHR 22:30 - ROB 07:25 B767 with 1 stop(FNA)
BA0136 ROB 09:25 - LHR 18:05 B767 with 1 stop(FNA)
Seems to be twice weekly
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AIR MALTA
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:55 pm

Quoting santos (Reply 13):
Seems to be twice weekly

Apparently, the service will start at the end of October 2012 and we will be a three weekly flight via FNA (Mon, Wed and Sat)... Why isn't BA making the announcement?
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:22 pm

Seems the service starts 6th November, departing Heathrow on days 136 (overnight flight) and returning days 247.
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:40 am

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 12):

Quoting KL577 (Reply 11):
There is a quicker alternative in those dodgy Ukrainian helicopters.

The helicopter service has been discontinued in 2011. Some of my colleagues have used it and it did not feel safe according to them.

Ah, didn't know that. So everybody has to board the ferry service again!
 
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RE: BA Back To Monrovia?!

Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:46 am

Quoting KL577 (Reply 16):
Ah, didn't know that. So everybody has to board the ferry service again!

Yes I am afraid...

Anyway, nice to see BA expanding in West Africa...
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