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US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:26 pm

I know the majority of these flights were operated by airlines such as ATA, Miami Air, North American, Omni & Ryan International, im almost certain that DL (747) NW (DC-10, 747) & UA (747) flew some of these charters too. What im not so sure about is, did CO with 737-900ER & 757-300 aircraft & NW (or DL) with 757-300's operate some of these flights? I vaguely remember seeing photo's of those aircraft in Europe on the internet so I presume it was for this reason. Can anyone confirm?
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:09 pm

Quoting eicvd (Thread starter):
did CO with 737-900ER & 757-300



I don't believe CO ever flew the 900 or 753 for military charters however, I do know they did them with 772.
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:14 pm

Here is a chartered Delta B772 at TRD back in march, bringing US soldiers to a NATO exercise in Norway:

Rare Visitor At TRD: Chartered DL B772 ER (pics) (by Mortyman Mar 6 2012 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=5406233&searchid=5406828&s=DL+at+TRD#ID5406828
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:19 pm

the 737-800 / 757-200, along with the widebody flights did military charters in Europe/Asia.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:01 pm

Northwest did a ton of Military charters, before the merger most of them stopped in AMS, after the merger many of them now stop at HHN.
 
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Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:09 pm

NW indeed used AMS a lot, usually with 747-200. I quite often see Omni, North American and World on flightradar24 above Hungary, I guess between European bases and the Middle East, or maybe even nonstop from the US.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:27 pm

Sub-CO is doing a TON of military charters currently. As well as the usual sport charters... Where they go, when they go I can't really share that. But, the pilots,especially priors, eat them UP!
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:09 pm

Saw ATA 757 200s March 2008 LiepZig Germany, Along our aging beautiful DC-10, ...Cherry Point, Bangor, LiepZig, Djibouti ......
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:40 am

Leipzig is a regular tech nstop, as is HHN.

Some 20 years ago, I think it was the Kosovo war, we had all kind of military charters in FRA as well, besides the regular MAC charters. Hawaian L101s1 were quite exotic here.
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:46 pm

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 7):
The World Airways crew were awesome

So are you guys!

For the most part working a Military Charter for us flight attendants is pure pleasure. Military people are by far the nicest, friendliest and most cooperative passengers one can imagine. Everybody is like: Thank You Sir, no problem Sir, I/We gladly do that... versus many people complaining, arguing and being self-centered...

At least for me every MAC flight I ever worked was a great experience.

However of course we prefer flying you back home over flying you out there. Flying these people out always has a somehow bitter aftertaste. Flying them home is an honor and pleasure!

I miss doing MAC flights!

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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:47 pm

Atlas Air runs a number of these almost daily using passenger 767-300s and 747-400s.
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:46 pm

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 9):
At least for me every MAC flight I ever worked was a great experience.
Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 9):
I miss doing MAC flights!

The term MAC or Military Airlift Command is no longer a valid acronym. It changed in 1996 or so. The new term is AMC or Air Mobility Command.
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:20 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 11):

Well I only ever did MAC flights, because 1997 or 1998 might have been the last time I ever did such a flight... So I never knew the term MAC is no longer in use... lol...

Thanx for the clarification...
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:28 pm

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 12):

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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:35 pm

There are pictures of a CO 777 in ANC and the caption says its for a military charter.

Unrelated, but how do crews (pilots and FA's) bid to operate charters, whether they are AMC, sports, large groups, etc... ?
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:52 pm

Over the years at the various military bases, I have seen an amazing amount of commercial airliners doing troop transports and it's been great! I was in Okinawa, Japan, and Mildenhall, England. Saw many, many 747's of various types, DC-10's, MD-11's, 767's, 777's, and several carriers (Evergreen, ATA, North American, World, Southern Air, and ATI, an unimagineable amount of times), and while in Deigo Garcia saw my first CO 772 and then later on another one in Okinawa. It was nice that UA and NWA were frequent visitors to Mildenhall and Kadena over the years. But, around late 2004, that all seemed to fade away fast. However, I personally never was able to see a CO 753 or 739 (as the thread is about) as heading that far into the Pacific would not have been feasable for those awesome birds. That would have been pretty awesome.
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:25 pm

TZ did fly their B-757-300s to and from Europe on MAC charters.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:27 pm

Quoting 135mech (Reply 15):

there was a 737-800 in DEL/KWI/SNN/FRA back in the 2005/6 time frame. Same with 757-200s.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 17):
Quoting 135mech (Reply 15):


there was a 737-800 in DEL/KWI/SNN/FRA back in the 2005/6 time frame. Same with 757-200s.

Cool, like I said, I personally never got to witness them. Were they for the military charters?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 16):
TZ did fly their B-757-300s to and from Europe on MAC charters.

Nice. Would have been great to see! We didn't always get to the best locations with the tankers as time went on w/ those lovely budget cuts, and many trips ended up with a late arrival and early departure.

I was just looking for tickets and saw that DL is flying a 753 from MSP to HNL (ugh 11h 34 m) non stop... KILL ME! LOL Didn't realize that the 753 had that range...I knew the 752 was long though.
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:24 pm

Quoting 135mech (Reply 18):
I was just looking for tickets and saw that DL is flying a 753 from MSP to HNL (ugh 11h 34 m) non stop... KILL ME! LOL Didn't realize that the 753 had that range...I knew the 752 was long though.

The B-757-300 has a range of about 3400 nm, the B-757-300W has a range of about 3600 nm.

GCM shows the distance to be 3450 nm, so you will be flying on one with winglets. But at 450 knots, the flight time is 7 h 45 m. Are you stopping somewhere along the way?
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:57 pm

Atlas 767s flew the Naval academy mids to the notre dame game in Dublin earlier this month.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:13 pm

Quoting 135mech (Reply 18):

yeah, numerous times for AMC charters.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:22 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 19):
The B-757-300 has a range of about 3400 nm, the B-757-300W has a range of about 3600 nm.

GCM shows the distance to be 3450 nm, so you will be flying on one with winglets. But at 450 knots, the flight time is 7 h 45 m. Are you stopping somewhere along the way?

I haven't booked it yet... was just looking at options and noticed that one... it's MSP - HNL direct at 11h 34m and says non-stop on DL's page. THAT freaked me out... 12 hours on a DL NB...ugh! LOL
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:18 pm

Quoting 135mech (Reply 22):
I haven't booked it yet... was just looking at options and noticed that one... it's MSP - HNL direct at 11h 34m and says non-stop on DL's page. THAT freaked me out... 12 hours on a DL NB...ugh!

Must be an error if it shows nonstop.
 
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RE: US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe

Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:33 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 23):
Must be an error if it shows nonstop.

I really hope so! LOL
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