kl911
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AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:48 pm

Hi,

I was looking at flights to ATL from AMS in January/February and was surprised to find 3 daily nonstop flights. That is in winter, how about summer 2013? Will frequency go up? Did this take frequency away from the former NW hub DTW?

I love the late night departure from ATL btw.

KL911
 
LJ
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:19 pm

Quoting kl911 (Thread starter):

I was looking at flights to ATL from AMS in January/February and was surprised to find 3 daily nonstop flights. That is in winter, how about summer 2013? Will frequency go up? Did this take frequency away from the former NW hub DTW?

AMS-ATL has been 3 daily for a while (AFAIK also in W11). During S12 it was 4 daily until September, thus this will probably be the same next year. DTW will become 3 daily in W12 and is expected to be 4 daily again in S13.
 
LAXdude1023
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:33 pm

Its a simple adjustment in capacity. ATL-CDG has gone down in capacity in favor of ATL-AMS. Probably better that way as KL does pretty well and AF is...well, AF.
It is what it is...
 
hooverman
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:17 pm

2xDL
1xKLM
And there is DL 777 service ahead. Can't remember if it was ATL or DTW.
 
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:26 am

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 3):
And there is DL 777 service ahead. Can't remember if it was ATL or DTW.

One of the DTW-AMS will be a 777 over the winter months.
 
factsonly
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:56 am

In Summer 2012 ATL-AMS-ATL was already 4x daily with the following schedule:


1234567 ATL dep. 1515 - AMS arr. *0555 DL174 330-200 NONSTOP
1234567 ATL dep. 1740 - AMS arr. *0825 DL238 330-300 NONSTOP
1234567 ATL dep. 1950 - AMS arr. *1050 DL33 767-300ER NONSTOP
1234567 ATL dep. 2240 - AMS arr. *1305 KL0622 M11 NONSTOP

1234567 AMS dep. 0900 - ATL arr. 1240 DL175 330-200 NONSTOP
1234567 AMS dep. 1105 - ATL arr. 1445 DL239 330-300 NONSTOP
1234567 AMS dep. 1310 - ATL arr. 1705 DL32 767-300ER NONSTOP
1234567 AMS dep. 1655 - ATL arr. 2020 KL0621 M11 NONSTOP

This schedule is again loaded for S13 for the time being.
 
factsonly
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:02 pm

It may be interesting to know that the following codeshares are carried on these DL flights ATL-AMS:

DL174 is also:
- Virgin Australia VA 6554 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Alaska Airlines AS 5276 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Alaska Airlines AS 5207 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- KLM KL 6074 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Air France AF 8597 Atlanta - Amsterdam

DL238 is also:
- KLM KL 5009 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- KLM KL 6038 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Alitalia AZ 3089 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Air France AF 8665 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Aeromexico AM 5954 Atlanta - Amsterdam

DL33 is also:
- Alitalia AZ 3430 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Alaska Airlines AS 5130 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Alaska Airlines AS 5660 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Air France AF 8909 Atlanta - Amsterdam
- Air France AF 2873 Atlanta - Amsterdam

While the KLM operated service ATL-AMS also carries a DL codeshare:
- Delta DL 9375 Atlanta - Amsterdam

Alaska Airlines also codeshares with DL on flights from DTW - AMS and SEA - AMS v.v..
Korean Airlines codeshares on DL flights SEA - AMS v.v
Alitalia also codeshares on DTW-AMS v.v.
KLM codeshares on all DL flights to AMS from SEA, MEM, BOS, MSP, DTW, EWR, ATL, BOM v.v.
 
factsonly
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RE: AMS-ATL 3x Daily Since When?

Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:23 am

For your information ATL-AMS-ATL may well be on its way to become the largest single transatlantic market out of Amsterdam by 2013. In recent history DTW-AMS-DTW was the largest transatlantic market for Schiphol Airport with 4x/daily Summer service and 3x/daily winter service by DL/NW.

Passengers carried 2011:
DTW-AMS-DTW = 606.210 per annum ( - 3%)
JFK-AMS-JFK = 559.062 per annum ( + 7,8%)
ATL-AMS-ATL = 459.013 per annum ( + 33%)
NYC-AMS-NYC = 821.823 per annum (JFK + EWR) ( + 0%)

In 2012 DL/KL are estimated to offer the following seat capacity on these routes:
DTW-AMS-DTW = 734.000 seats per annum
JFK-AMS-JFK = 684.000 seats per annum
ATL-AMS-ATL = 605.000 seats per annum (+ 32%)
NYC-AMS-NYC = 835.000 seats per annum (JFK + EWR)

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