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1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:21 am

Don't know if this video have been posted before, but here goes:


A wonderful video of Kerstin Felser ( age 36 ), 1 of 2 female pilots at Lufthansa,, piloting the A380.

Very impressive lady

Video is of her and crew flying the A380 from Frankfurt to San Fransisco and back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGqivNQyI1s&feature=related


How many here envy this womans job ? I certainly do  Smile

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:04 am

Great video! Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:32 am

Great video to see! And don't worry, there are more women pilots at Lufthansa than 2 (edit: or did you mean A380 female pilots, slightly confused)   ! According to the link below there are now 27 Female Captains:

http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/themen/women-in-the-captains-seat.html

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:19 am

Quoting Ferminios (Reply 2):
Great video to see! And don't worry, there are more women pilots at Lufthansa than 2 (edit: or did you mean A380 female pilots, slightly confused) ! According to the link below there are now 27 Female Captains:

I think the title of the thread says it all really. I ment the amount female pilots that flies the Airbus 380 for Lufthansa. I know that there are more female pilots at lufthansa, but from what I understand from the video they are flying different aircrafts.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:59 pm

Great video, hot pilot!!
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:40 pm

Aside from the fact that I only understood about 2 words per minute on the video, mainly consisting of "San Francisco"; I thougt it was a really cool video
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:46 pm

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Video is of her and crew flying the A380 from Frankfurt to San Fransisco and back.

Thank you for sharing this..

There are so many good aviation documentaries about LH. I wish I spoke German.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Great video. A nice view behind the scenes of pilots - female and male. As a PAX you rarely realise the preparation and 'briefings' that go on before hand.

I don't sprachen ze deutsch.... what was the gist of what the captain briefed the cabin crew with? It seemed almost inspirational at times!

Reminds me of a German Sarah Jessica Parker! Serious responsibility and skill here and a very admirable career...
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:17 pm

Really enjoyed the video ,even though I,like others ,only understood two words,(San Francisco).

Brought back some great memories of a great trip I had there,maybe that is the excuse i need to go back again on the A380.

Many thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:31 pm

Reminds me of this AF video (French with English subtitles) of an AF 77W flight CDG-MEX with an all-female crew last March in connection with International Women's Day. All 3 pilots were named Isabelle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbY8LuhX7Cc

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:09 pm

Kerstin Felser is pretty, gorgeous, in good shape, adventurer and A·380 PILOT.... what else...???. She´s more than impressive lady, she is perfect!!!

Regarding the AF Female crew my largest admiration for them. I would like to be someday among their passenger....
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:19 pm

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 7):
I don't sprachen ze deutsch.... what was the gist of what the captain briefed the cabin crew with? It seemed almost inspirational at times!

Actually, "Sie sprechen kein Deutsch."  

The narrator first says "Shaking hands with 21 stewards and stewardesses - more than double as in many other long-distance aircraft."

After that, to paraphrase the captain, he explains the planned route to SFO. He then explains a large portion of the flight will be over water and sparsely-populated lands with few airports along he route. The narrator says "Stichwort: Sicherheit", meaning 'Keyword: Safety'.

He tells the flight attendants: my greatest request of you is that you remain aware of your senses and surrounds during the flight. If you ever feel something is not right or may be problematic, please bring it to attention. Also rely on the observations or concerns of the passengers, whether an old man or a small child. We have many sensors in the cockpit, but often times their warnings are to late, say if a fire is already burning. Our human sensors - eyes, nose, ears - work far better. Your human senses can engage a situation and help us determine severity and whether we should continue or find an emergency landing spot as soon as possible, etc.

Finally the captain asks the other flight crew if they have anything to add, but they do not.

Again, this is not word for word but it is essentially what he is saying. I hope I helped!   

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 7):
what was the gist of what the captain briefed the cabin crew with? It seemed almost inspirational at times!

If you mean from 5.40min.

''Der Captain erklärt wo es langgeht. ''Dann nördlich von Island, hier mitten über Grönland, und dann kommen wir hier oben von Kanada her rein. (hits guy on the head... ''oh, pardon''.). Speaker: A little collision. Which brings us to safety. 10 Stunden 25 dauert des heute, wir fliegen da oben sehr viel über wenig bewohntes Gelände, da sind nicht viele Flughäfen. Meine Bitte an Sie wäre, wenn Ihnen etwas auffällt was nicht so ist wie es sein sollte, sei dem es riecht komisch, es hört sich komisch an, auch wenn 'n Passagier 'was sagt und zwar 'n alter Mann oder ein kleines Kind - gehen Sie der Sache nach, sagen se uns bescheid. Wir haben Anzeigeinstrumente im Cockpit, aber die zeigen immer erst an, wenn's eigentlich schon zu spät ist, wenn das Feuer schon richtig brennt. Und Ihre Sensoren Augen, Ohren und Nase die sind viel besser, sie merken's oft schon im Ansatz. Und dann können wir System abstellen und was noch viel wichtiger ist, wir können schauen, wo können wir hinfliegen, dass wir möglich schnell in Bodennähe kommen. Ja? Das wär' meine große Bitte. Habt ihr beide noch 'was? Girl: Ich hab nix.. Baldie: Nee ich auch nich'. Captain: Ja?''

Rough Translation: The captain explains the flight path. ''Then we'll fly north of Iceland, straight over Greenland, and then we'll enter the USA from North from Canada. Flight time today will be 10hrs25mins, we'll fly over a lot of uninhabited areas up there, there aren't many airports. That's why I'd like to ask you today, if you notice anything that isn't the way it's supposed to be, be it a funny smell or a funny noise.. or when a passenger mentions anything to you, be it an old man or a little child.. take it seriously, investigate and let us know. We do have instruments in the cockpit, but when they go off it's usually too late already, the fire is already burning. And your sensors eyes, ears and nose are much more reliable.. you notice things much earlier. Then we can switch off systems and more importantly, we can find out where to fly (divert) to get down to the ground as quickly as possible. Okay? That's really important to me. Is there anything you would like to add? Girl: I have nothing. Baldie: No, I don't either. Captain: Okay?''
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:46 pm

What actually surprises me is that, in this day and age, someone still find it noteworthy when a woman is at the helm of an aeroplane. Or even an entire female crew; I bet you won't find many threads saying "wow, like, the whole crew was male and it was totally awesome!".

Must of us luckily don't live in Saudi Arabia, gentlemen, and it's about time you stopped acting as if we did.

I don't envy her, but will offer her the same professional respect she affords me - should the occasion ever present itself.
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:19 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 13):

What actually surprises me is that, in this day and age, someone still find it noteworthy when a woman is at the helm of an aeroplane. Or even an entire female crew; I bet you won't find many threads saying "wow, like, the whole crew was male and it was totally awesome!".

Must of us luckily don't live in Saudi Arabia, gentlemen, and it's about time you stopped acting as if we did.

I don't envy her, but will offer her the same professional respect she affords me - should the occasion ever present itself.

     

I don't personally see this as anything special. I think that if you think it is note worthy and in need of special recognition then you need to see a calender and see that it is 2012 and not 1962.
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:09 am

Kind of a yawner. I spent most of my time fast forwarding. It is nothing more than a LH fluf piece with a bit of eye candy to show how that they are not a male dominated airline in the cockpit.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:25 am

Yes, nice. I've seen this one before. As mentioned above, female pilots today are routine although still a minority.

But I really watch them for the A380/aviation. She was not the reason i watched the videos and she did not add to my viewing pleasure. Any long aviation documentaries on the net, I will watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2se1hk1Hygc
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:35 am

And in the end, only one thing matters......The pilot's ability to fly that aircraft and fly it well!

Nuff said.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:11 am

I loved flying. I really did. But not for hours and hours across the world. Bless her heart. I would not want her job. I need to land after a few hours. Also, I found the video beyond boring. But in fairness, I did not finish it. I had to close the window. Her hair reminded me of Playboy's Debra Jo Fondren. Too long. Much like the video clip. It might of helped if I understood and spoke German?
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:09 am

Quoting vanguard737 (Reply 11):
Actually, "Sie sprechen kein Deutsch."

Ya... elected for French as Germans are such excellent english speakers... as proven....

Quoting vanguard737 (Reply 11):
The narrator first says "Shaking hands with 21 stewards and stewardesses - more than double as in many other long-distance aircraft."

After that, to paraphrase the captain, he explains the planned route to SFO. He then explains a large portion of the flight will be over water and sparsely-populated lands with few airports along he route. The narrator says "Stichwort: Sicherheit", meaning 'Keyword: Safety'.

He tells the flight attendants: my greatest request of you is that you remain aware of your senses and surrounds during the flight. If you ever feel something is not right or may be problematic, please bring it to attention. Also rely on the observations or concerns of the passengers, whether an old man or a small child. We have many sensors in the cockpit, but often times their warnings are to late, say if a fire is already burning. Our human sensors - eyes, nose, ears - work far better. Your human senses can engage a situation and help us determine severity and whether we should continue or find an emergency landing spot as soon as possible, etc.

....by your kind translation. Thanks for that - and it is nice to know this sort of breifing is given as a reminded before longer flights. FR could note the 'taking passenger observations seriously'.

Quoting something (Reply 12):
If you mean from 5.40min.

I did, and thanks for translating!

Quoting something (Reply 12):
Baldie: No, I don't either.

haha

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 13):
Must of us luckily don't live in Saudi Arabia, gentlemen, and it's about time you stopped acting as if we did.

Actually I do live there, and I think it is inspirational to see the power and respect females command in the West. We must congratulate ourselves in this respect. Whilst the statistics suggest a lessening imbalance in female pilot hiring, spin like this film can only do well to encourage more young women into the profession.

SV does have a token female pilot BTW.

Whether it is a female or an penguin, it is still extremely interesting to see the inner workings of being a pilot, and how this reflects on their personal life.
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:41 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 13):
What actually surprises me is that, in this day and age, someone still find it noteworthy when a woman is at the helm of an aeroplane. Or even an entire female crew; I bet you won't find many threads saying "wow, like, the whole crew was male and it was totally awesome!".

I am certainly not surprised to see female pilots. woman can do anything these days and I for one am very happy to see that.

However

I'm not sure if there are THAT many woman, who are flying the Airbus 380. And if there are, how many are this young ?
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:48 am

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
SV does have a token female pilot BTW.

Are you sure SV has a female pilot? If it was so it wouldn't be a Saudie woman though...
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:21 am

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 21):
Are you sure SV has a female pilot? If it was so it wouldn't be a Saudie woman though...

One of my students spouted it out with pride, which given the propeganda that filters through to them, might not be a reliable source. Let me research it a bit more.



*Edited to include information;

Nothing explicitly says this female pilot works for SV (as stated by Saudis), but she flies for Kingdom Holdings, and operates a private jet, so clearly is taken very seriously. The precident stands, but this is more likely an exercise to appease female citizens.

http://waynefarley.com/aviation/2011...irst-female-pilot-in-saudi-arabia/

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:35 am

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 22):

So your right. And born in Mecca so she is Saudi.
She is lucky to work for Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal since he is one of the few Saudi's to hire female(Saudi) workers.
But I am pretty sure we won't be seeing female pilots flying for SV soon. Unfortunately.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:05 am

Are we sure there are still only two A380 women pilots? If so, odds were great for me  

I flew the LH A380 this week SFO-FRA and I believe there was a woman in the cockpit making announcements. Awesome flight!
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:13 pm

How do aircraft get staffed at LH? In the US it is all seniority driven, and I would wager the youngest pilot at a hypothetical US airline operating the 380 would be 56 not 36.
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:24 pm

Where is wilco when we need him. He works for LH.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:52 pm

Nice watch, thanks. I liked how they mixed it with the private part about her and her dad doing a trip by foot over the alps for 4 weeks.

Kinda funny when in SFO the narrator said "everybody's waiting for the captain" and he replied "that's how it's supposed to be!"  

Regarding the female pilots:
It was said by her that LH has a female quote of 5%, so it would not surprise me if there are indeed just 2 female pilots for the A380.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:57 pm

At LH it is all about seniority. But when the 380 was introduced only pilots from 340 were hired, today from all fleets. I don't know how many female pilots are flying the 380, but I know 3 personally.
Question why she is 36 and not 56 as implied, simple because she was flying 340s before and only after 2-3 years on the line the seniority is sufficient to change to 340. Then applying for the 380 and if not enough people apply, you get your chance pretty quickly. Nowadays you have to wait longer again.

Hope that helps.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:08 pm

Apparently ( my German is a bit rusty, but that is the way I understood it ) she wil be captain of the A380 if all goes according to plan in a couple of years .... Not bad ...
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:10 pm

Mortyman, it will still take several years. She has to become captain on short haul first and then apply again for the 380. And from what I know it takes quite a while until one can be captain on the 380.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:29 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 30):
Mortyman, it will still take several years. She has to become captain on short haul first and then apply again for the 380. And from what I know it takes quite a while until one can be captain on the 380.

Well the video says she will be captain in a couple of years if everything goes as planned. However the video does'nt say if by that the narrator means on the A380 or not. But if she has to become captain on shorthaul first, then why is she flying the A380 currently. should'nt she spend time behind the controls of a short haul aircraft first then ?

According to the video she has apparently flown several years as pilot on cargo aircraft worldwide, so maybe she has enough longhaul experience ?

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:33 pm

Mortyman,

She will be captain in short haul soon, that is true. But 380 will take 10 or more years.

At LH you start your career on short haul, then you fly long haul as FO and SFO and then when upgrading to captain you go back to short haul flying. The long haul part is no must, it is an opportunity you have.
Cargo was another option for 3 years flying MD11s. That's what I did after 3 years 737 I flew MD11, now 744 and in couple years upgrading to captain (hopefully)
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:52 pm

Really interesting video - thanks for sharing the link with us all! I'm fortunate enough to understand German and enjoyed learning both about the ins and outs of flying the A380 as well as picking up bits of language along the way - excellent!

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:16 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 28):
Then applying for the 380 and if not enough people apply, you get your chance pretty quickly. Nowadays you have to wait longer again.

I guess that's because they have received all their A380s and it will be quite a while before the senior captains retire or the SFOs move up to command; do they have a minimum time limit, given the investment in conversions, e.g. 3 or 4 years, before moving onto a new type? BA used to (not sure if they still do) have a mimimum of five years on some types like the Tristar and 747.

Also, I noted on FO Felser's uniform that one of her gold rings was wider than the others; is this what marks her out as a senior first officer?
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:20 pm

Yes, the old captains need to retire until younger ones can upgrade. The time you are an FO with LH until becoming captain is 13 years average. Sometimes more, sometimes less.

You are right with the SFO assumption. I am SFO myself and the third stripe is wider than the other 2. But you get additionally training to become SFO, it doesn't happen automatically.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:30 pm

I have no doubt that Lufthansa is a very good company. I owe a lot of respect to the people who work there but the least they should do is putting subtitles in English when making videos in their own language. Nevertheless, I agree this is a very good video to watch.

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:39 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 36):

Seems like a marketing tool imho. A good looking woman pilot for LH. I just got back from DEL and the FO was female but a grandma. UA should take a page from LH, maybe.

  
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:55 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 36):
I have no doubt that Lufthansa is a very good company. I owe a lot of respect to the people who work there but the least they should do is putting subtitles in English when making videos in their own language.

Maybe I'm wrong, but the various watermarks, a clock, and news about Romney scrolling on the bottom should be ample clues this wasn't an LH in-house production. Looks like a regular TV program.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:34 am

Quoting flood (Reply 38):
Maybe I'm wrong, but the various watermarks, a clock, and news about Romney scrolling on the bottom should be ample clues this wasn't an LH in-house production. Looks like a regular TV program.

  

LOL, yes. You should be a detective!  

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Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:09 am

AC's first female pilot in 1978. Thirty-four years later she's a 777 captain.
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:31 am

Wonder how many women pilots EK has?
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:44 am

Quoting YYZAMS (Reply 41):
Wonder how many women pilots EK has?

Article on EK's first female pilot, only 6 years ago. She's Brazilian and spent 15 years with Varig (also their first female pilot). She joined EK as a 777 first officer and is now a 777 captain. Not sure if they have any other female pilots.
http://gulfnews.com/life-style/general/it-s-a-woman-s-world-1.1012443

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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:05 pm

What about Asian carriers? How many women captains do CX or SQ, JAL or ANA have currently?
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:45 pm

You know, it's always kind of the famous glass half empty or half full.
Granted, we should not be surprised that there are more and more female pilots and that they even fly A380s.
At the time it is satisfaying to see that society, at least in some places, has evolved enough to let it happen.
And when the female pilot is quite pretty, it is even more enjoyable (there, I regress  ).
By the way, AF has a female Captain on A380.
 
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RE: 1 Of 2 Female LH Pilots, Flying The A380 (video)

Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:20 pm

Quoting breiz (Reply 44):
By the way, AF has a female Captain on A380.

There are more.
Patricia Haffler is a TRI/TRE on the 380. She flew the first AF A380 flight in,to JFK and back.
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