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Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:11 am

I am listening to live ATC from Tunis ACC and the controller just informed that the Libyan airspace is about to close as of 1000 UTC. Now on www.flightradar24.com you can see AUA891 VIE-TIP is holding over Lampedusa.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:16 am

Why is it closing? Is it because of the attacks? I haven't heard anything in the news.
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:19 am

It's a fresh piece of news ! KLM567 AMS-DAR is being derouted to the east, and KLM597 AMS-CPT will be derouted to the west via Tunisia then Algeria.
 
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:33 am

Here's news from yesterday, when the drones were flying in, Benghazi airspace shut down. Maybe this is what's going on again?

-http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/14/us-protests-libya-airport-idUSBRE88D0PJ20120914
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:37 am

But that is Benghazi. What really surprises me is that up to now, the Eurocontrol CFMU is saying nothing about that event although derouting and diverting is in progress !
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:45 am

Eurocontrol just released an AIM. It says that the reason behind the closure of all Libyan airspace is an ATC industrial action.

TACT/CASA MESSAGE : XCD - NON-AVAILABILITY
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REF : NON-AVAILABILITY OF ALL LIBYAN AIRSPACE
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DUE TO : ATC INDUSTRIAL ACTION
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REG ID : HLLLA16
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VALID : WEF: 1040 UTC UNTIL: 2359 UTC
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TFC : ALL
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REMARKS : -FLIGHTS INTENDING TO OPERATE AFTER THE
NON-AVAILABILITY
MUST UPDATE THEIR EOBT AND WILL RECEIVE A
SAM/SRM ACCORDING TO THE RE-OPENING TIME.
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-FCM SHOULD CONTAIN REGULATION ID: HLLLA16
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-FLIGHTS DIVERTING AND NOT YET DEPARTED MUST CNL
THE FPL AND RE-FILE TO ALTERNATE AERODROME.
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-FLIGHTS NOT INTENDING TO OPERATE MUST CNL
THEIR FPL BY SENDING A CNL MESSAGE.
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NETWORK MANAGER OPERATIONS CENTRE - BRUSSELS
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:56 am

Austrian going back to Sicily, but is now turning South again. Brussels Airlines is also going east towards egypt
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:03 am

THY645 to Misrata is reversing course to IST http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk645 and i wonder what are the intentions of that AUA891 (changed892) http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/os892
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:27 am

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 8):
i wonder what are the intentions of that AUA891 (changed892) http://www.flightradar24.com/data/fl...os892

AUA is climbing and heading North, giving it up. I wonder if they had fuel for the return trip or will divert to somewhere in Italy.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:31 am

Now BA898 to Tripoli is in a holding pattern west of Sicily.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:38 am

LN107 On ground at Manchester in final stage of boarding - Will it be canx or route to Tunis ?

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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:40 am

With all the chaos going on, will there be a risk of SAMs being fired at airliners?
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:46 am

Quoting sweair (Reply 12):
With all the chaos going on, will there be a risk of SAMs being fired at airliners?

Lol, Libya has been calm for a long time since the war, this is due to an ATC strike. No unrest in Lybia.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:02 pm

OAE716 seems an "interesting" divert and re-route...

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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:04 pm

Quoting Blueshamu330s (Reply 14):
OAE716 seems an "interesting" divert and re-route...

I dont think that is because of Libyan Airspace. Its original course was well west of Libya.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:08 pm

OAE716 routed HHN-TUN this morning and is now back to Germany. A charter flight for the American Embassy  
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:14 pm

BA898 is now diverting to Tunis.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:18 pm

TS-IOR Thanks. As I thought.  

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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:20 pm

Quoting Blueshamu330s (Reply 14):
OAE716 seems an "interesting" divert and re-route...

Very suspect. Where on Earth was it going?? Obviously leaving from a US base in Germany.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:31 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 16):
OAE716 routed HHN-TUN this morning and is now back to Germany. A charter flight for the American Embassy
Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 19):
Very suspect. Where on Earth was it going?? Obviously leaving from a US base in Germany.

Do you actually read all the posts before commenting?  
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:44 pm

Oh ! No problem guys, sometimes a post is sent while we are writing another.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:16 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 21):
Oh ! No problem guys, sometimes a post is sent while we are writing another.

I didnt mean you TS-IOR, besides that I put the smiley  
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:27 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 21):
Oh ! No problem guys, sometimes a post is sent while we are writing another.

Actually, that very thing happened to me! I was caught tracking some of the flights in the discussion. Thanks for the update.
 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:13 pm

 
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RE: Tripoli FIR Just Closed!

Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:21 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 6):
TACT/CASA MESSAGE : XCD - NON-AVAILABILITY
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REF : NON-AVAILABILITY OF ALL LIBYAN AIRSPACE
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DUE TO : ATC INDUSTRIAL ACTION

Cause posted all the way back to reply 6!
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