C010T3
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LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:05 am

LAN Chile applied yesterday (17/09/2012) before the Brazilian ANAC for the following flights to be started effective 21/01/2013:

LA792 763 daily SCL 1550 2100 GIG 2245 0435+1 MIA
LA793 763 daily MIA 1925 0705+1 GIG 0915+1 1320+1 SCL

LAN has fifth freedom rights guaranteed for the service. The filing contained time zones errorss for the departure and arrival times at MIA, which I corrected for the purpose of this thread.

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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:30 am

Does thos mean TAM stops flying Miami to RIO or does LATAM now have 2 Miami to Rio flights ?
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:49 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 1):
Does thos mean TAM stops flying Miami to RIO or does LATAM now have 2 Miami to Rio flights ?

It's not clear yet, but it really seems that TAM will stop flying GIG-MIA. TAM originally wanted to increase flights to JFK, CDG and FRA from GIG, but plans were about to be put on hold with the decision to park TAM's 763, which have old and outdated interiors.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:49 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Thread starter):
LA792 763 daily SCL 1550 2100 GIG 2245 0435+1 MIA
LA793 763 daily MIA 1925 0705+1 GIG 0915+1 1320+1 SCL

These ground times don't look like regular stops as they are very long.
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:56 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 3):
These ground times don't look like regular stops as they are very long.

What do you mean? There is no intention to have SCL-MIA traffic on this flight.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:58 pm

How many flights does LA have from MIA now? I remember passing by the terminal last month and I see 3-4 LAN aircraft there..
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:26 pm

Quoting JaxMan19 (Reply 5):
How many flights does LA have from MIA now? I remember passing by the terminal last month and I see 3-4 LAN aircraft there..

LAN has a kinds of flights to Miami kind of like Northwest did to Amsterdam or Narita. LAN flies nonstop 767 daily and double daily from Gyaquil, Lima, Santiago, Buenos Aires and one A320 from Bogota. LAN is one of Miami's larger airlines especially now with TAM which will soon have a 77W from GRU to MIA.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:04 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 2):
it really seems that TAM will stop flying GIG-MIA

The intended plans consisted on JJ upgrading the MIA-GIG service to 332.
AA MIA-GIG will operate that route in December as 14x weekly.

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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:25 am

Quoting JaxMan19 (Reply 5):
How many flights does LA have from MIA now? I remember passing by the terminal last month and I see 3-4 LAN aircraft there..

LA just increased frequencies into MIA this week. The SCL-MIA route now operates 2x daily, the LIM-MIA route operates 2x daily and will increase to 17x weekly soon, the SCL-CUN-MIA and SCL-PUJ-MIA routes both operate twice weekly. LA will also increase frequencies on the SCL-MIA, SCL-CUN-MIA and SCL-PUJ-MIA routes starting in January.

LAN Airlines:
SCL-MIA 2x daily (B763)
SCL-CCS-MIA weekly (B763)
SCL-GYE-CCS-MIA weekly (B763)
SCL-CUN-MIA 2x weekly (B763)
SCL-PUJ-MIA 2x weekly (B763)

LAN Argentina:
EZE-MIA daily (B763)
EZE-PUJ-MIA weekly (B763)

LAN Colombia:
BOG-MIA daily (A-320)

LAN Ecuador:
UIO-MIA daily (B763)

LAN Perú:
LIM-MIA increases to 17x weekly in NOV (B763)
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:25 am

Wow, Besides Australia, which is one country on a continent, what other continent has it's air service so dominated by one carrier? Can any other one carrier compete with the rapidly growing 800 pound gorilla in South America that is LATAM?
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:38 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 9):
Wow, Besides Australia, which is one country on a continent, what other continent has it's air service so dominated by one carrier? Can any other one carrier compete with the rapidly growing 800 pound gorilla in South America that is LATAM?

You are overlooking AviancaTaca. Colombia is the 2nd largest market in South America after Brazil.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:58 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 6):
LAN is one of Miami's larger airlines especially now with TAM which will soon have a 77W from GRU to MIA.

TAM launches its first B77W service to the U.S. tonight with JJ8090 operating GRU-MIA.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:11 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 2):
It's not clear yet, but it really seems that TAM will stop flying GIG-MIA.

Now it looks very likely that LAN will takeover this route from TAM next year so that TAM can increase flights into the U.S. and possibly FRA.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:53 am

Interesting. And it seems Latam focus to further increase GIG as a hub is a fact.
With MVD, some LIM and now a better SCL for connections (plus domestic route to GYN) they are looking to build up !

Now the big question is if JJ will deploy their A332's in a route to Europe, where it seems they got benefits... Also, i would not be surprised if LA assumes GRU-MAD and opens LIM-GIG-MAD.
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:13 am

Does AA have a JV with Lan?
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:48 am

Quoting Bobloblaw (Reply 14):
Does AA have a JV with Lan?

AA does not have a JV with LATAM Airlines Group.
 
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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:58 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 13):
Now the big question is if JJ will deploy their A332's in a route to Europe, where it seems they got benefits

As far as I understood, TAM will rather deploy their 332s in selected routes linking Brazil and the USA. Thus, the 332 will replace the 767 fleet in such segments.

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RE: LA To Fly SCL-GIG-MIA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:24 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 7):
The intended plans consisted on JJ upgrading the MIA-GIG service to 332.
Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 16):
As far as I understood, TAM will rather deploy their 332s in selected routes linking Brazil and the USA. Thus, the 332 will replace the 767 fleet in such segments.

Yes, but now there is a new fact, which is LAN flying GIG-MIA for TAM, which will be able to redeploy the 332s that replaced the 767s.

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