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Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:30 am

The Treasury Department has now sanctioned the almost the entire civilian airline of the nation of Iran in response to two 747 Cargo planes being spotted by satellite and allegedly delivering arms to Syria. The airframes are listed by registration number and may no longer be serviced for any passenger service. The overwhelming majority of these frames have not been photographed in Syria and are passenger only models. 117 total airframes.

The inability to service these planes or fly them is a real threat to civilian passengers. Opine.

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...AC-Enforcement/Pages/20120919.aspx

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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:02 am

Interesting that it lists several Iran Air 707s but not the Saha 707s. I wonder where they looked up the registrations  
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Strange selection indeed.

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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:47 pm

Quoting Fly-K (Reply 1):
Interesting that it lists several Iran Air 707s but not the Saha 707s.

Even more bizarre is that the IR 707s have been non-operational for well over a decade and SAHA is a branch of the Iranian Air Force!
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:52 pm

It seems to include virtually the whole IR fleet, but what does it actually mean in practice; obviously, it's been years since IR flew to the US; would this prevent Ahmedinejad visting the UN, for example?

Until we actually know the effect, it is just another sanction against Iran and unless others impose similar sanctions (e.g. the EU) it's hard to see it having an actual effect on day to day service.

Could USN F-18s force IR flights to DXB (for example) return to Iran, if they are patrolling in that region?
 
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:13 pm

I don't think it's about planes flying to the US at all, that already doesn't happen (diplomatic flights are another matter). I'm guessing it means any company doing business with the US can't have anything to do with those planes.
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:50 am

I feel sanctions like this are especially beyond reproach. Jet travel is a luxury, not a basic human right. If Iran lets planes fly that are dangerous, any "threat to civilian passengers" or serious consequences are the result of Iranian government policy to fly unsafe planes, not America's policy to deny them spare parts.
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:04 am

Quoting solarflyer22 (Thread starter):
The overwhelming majority of these frames have not been photographed in Syria and are passenger only models. 117 total airframes.

Hmm They're really putting the clamps on Iran now. I wonder when they'll start hitting up Russia and China for aircraft. But even then a number of Russian craft are on that list. I wonder, does Russia use US creditors for aircraft maintenance?
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:49 am

Quoting pu (Reply 6):
Jet travel is a luxury, not a basic human right.

Same could be said for oil. Let's see what happens when a certain war is started by a certain country.
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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:15 am

A rather strange update since these airlines are already under the exsisting embargoes.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 4):
Would this prevent Ahmedinejad visting the UN, for example?

No, it would be exempted as a diplomatic flight.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 4):
Until we actually know the effect, it is just another sanction against Iran and unless others impose similar sanctions (e.g. the EU) it's hard to see it having an actual effect on day to day service.

  

Quoting kaitak (Reply 4):
Could USN F-18s force IR flights to DXB (for example) return to Iran, if they are patrolling in that region?

Based on just a US embargo not a single chance in international or foreign airspace.

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RE: Most Iran Aircraft Sanctioned By Registration

Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:49 am

This is just beaurocratic legal work, the message is very simple, do not do any business with Iran unless you don't care about the US and don't intend to travel there either.
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