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United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:25 pm

United Airline's first 787 is on it's way to IAH this morning. Scheduled arrival at 09:48 AM.

[Edited 2012-09-22 06:27:23]
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:27 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Thread starter):
United Airline's first 787 is on it's way to IAH this morning.

Wow, when did the delivery take place yesterday or this Morning.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:28 pm

She left BFI today. She is aloft. And Flying. It is showing as a non-revenue test flight. Actual delivery ceremony in IAH ?

[Edited 2012-09-22 06:30:56]
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:31 pm

I don't see anything on Flightaware.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:39 pm

Not showing on FlightAware...
Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:41 pm

Can an airline block a flight on flightaware, like the government can?
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:48 pm

Remember, this is a non-revenue flight. Believe she is flying as a test or ferry flight. #6864.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:53 pm

united.com does show 6864 from BFI to IAH with the arrival times listed above.

Technically it does not show BFI as the origin, but then under the weather for the airports involved it displays BFI.

the status says 'on schedule' but it should have an estimated arrival time if it is in the air, but I am sure that united could block this if they wish.
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:58 pm

Got a couple of sources telling me that delivery did indeed take place and the airplane should arrive at IAH by 10AM CDT. Sounds like delivery ceremony will be in Houston.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:04 pm

They tricked even the most active followers   If the ceremony is at IAH they certainly would want to keep this flight quiet if possible.
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:09 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 6):
Remember, this is a non-revenue flight. Believe she is flying as a test or ferry flight. #6864.

There are some other airline ferry/delivery flights showing up on Flightaware out of BFI this morning (Aerolineas Argentina and Xiamen Air both have 738s departing BFI this morning.). The last instance of UAL6864 being used is Sept. 15 for an LAX-SFO flight with a 772. The fact that this ferry flight isn't showing up on Flightaware is interesting and makes you wonder if perhaps it's flying under some other flight number or UA had the flight number or registration blocked.

Flightaware is showing three 787 flights, two from JAL and one from ANA:

http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B788

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 5):
Can an airline block a flight on flightaware, like the government can?

Yes. Plenty of private a/c have their registrations blocked, so an airline can just as easily request a similar sort of blocking of a flight number or a/c registration even on a temporary basis (Many private jet fractional operators are classified as airlines.). It's probably not done as often since airlines typically use a block of flight numbers for ferry/test flights.
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:39 pm

Awesome news for a Saturday morning... my daughter is dancing to the Rhapsody in Blue that I am blasting right now!

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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:46 pm

FYI friend of mine says the internal UA system shows the flt sked but does not show the aircraft flying...mebbe a data error???
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:44 pm

It was a tip from Chicago Ops, the schedule at 09:48 IAH time is wrong. Trying to get more info.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:16 pm

My United app actually shows some seats in Y+ are occupied. Maybe a glitch.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:28 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 14):
My United app actually shows some seats in Y+ are occupied. Maybe a glitch.

Those are the default blocked seats...
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:50 pm

Is there no A-Netters in IAH to confirm that the 787 has landed and then disappeared into a hanger?
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:51 pm

ZA288 is still in Seattle and should depart later today or tomorrow morning. Apparently it's getting some sort of custom software load.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:57 pm

Looks like the UA 787 will be delivered to IAH!
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:04 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 18):
Looks like the UA 787 will be delivered to IAH!

What gave that away? This entire thread?
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:09 pm

Looks like it. Looks like the rumors that is was gonna be either SFO or ORD are now false!
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:17 pm

No delivery today. Apparently no C-1 flight has even taken place. That still has to be done as well as some other training and marketing matters. Delivery towards the end of the week possibly.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:17 pm

Was it Continental or UA that ordered these frames?
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:19 pm

Quoting sweair (Reply 22):

Was it Continental or UA that ordered these frames?

This is a Continental ordered aircraft.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:25 pm

Quoting sweair (Reply 22):

IIRC, these should be United orders because I believe that CO converted their orders to the 787-9. I don't remember if it was all of them though.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:27 pm

So delivery should be at former Continental hub?
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:32 pm

Quoting n797mx (Reply 24):
IIRC, these should be United orders because I believe that CO converted their orders to the 787-9. I don't remember if it was all of them though.

Nope it's a CO ordered aircraft. The UA ordered ones won't be coming online until around 2016 or so.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:33 pm

Technically the delivery flight was on Friday PAE-BFI. BFI-IAH is a non revenue flight operating for UA. Rarely do airlines do this since usually the plane flies directly from PAE.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 21):
No delivery today. Apparently no C-1 flight has even taken place. That still has to be done as well as some other training and marketing matters. Delivery towards the end of the week possibly.

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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting flight152 (Reply 19):
What gave that away? This entire thread?

  

Quoting sweair (Reply 25):
So delivery should be at former Continental hub?

I have no inside information but it would make sense as the 787 is a sCO order, crewed by a sCO crew, based out of IAH (an sCO hub). Wouldn't surprise me if it went to ORD though.

I was at IAH around 1pm... I didn't see it at Terminal E or around the hangers off of Will Clayton Pkwy. Did get to see a few 772's and 764's  
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:04 pm

Quoting co772 (Reply 28):

I was beginning to think it was going to be delivered to ORD, but IAH makes more sense since it is a sCO order.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:13 pm

I remember with CO their 777s #1 and #2 were delivered the same day, #1 flew to IAH and #2 to EWR. I went to EWR that night to see the new CO 777 and could not miss that huge tail towering over all the 737s. I remember looking from the gate at all the ground crew surrounding the aircraft checking it out. Their first revenue flights were the following day, EWR-MCO and IAH-LAX.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:15 pm

Quoting n797mx (Reply 24):
IIRC, these should be United orders because I believe that CO converted their orders to the 787-9. I don't remember if it was all of them though.

CO originally ordered 25 787-8s, just as UA did. However CO later converted 14 of their 25 787-8s to 787-9s, the aircraft we are waiting to be delivered is the first of the 11 787-8 orders from CO. After that I don't know which will be next the sCO 787-9s or the sUA 787-8s.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:45 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 29):

I was beginning to think it was going to be delivered to ORD, but IAH makes more sense since it is a sCO order.

UA typically had new airplanes deliver to SFO not ORD.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:50 pm

Hard to imagine Boeing and UA being fro the same roots once in history.
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:52 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 32):

Thanks for correcting me, could this mean that IAH could replace SFO for deliveries in the future?
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:24 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 34):
Thanks for correcting me, could this mean that IAH could replace SFO for deliveries in the future?

I wouldn't say that. SMB is and will be very important in the future of this airline.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:24 pm

Again, there is no merger of the pilot contracts. Because of that, these sCO initial orders will be flown by sCO pilots from an sCO hub. CO was the first U.S. based carrier to place a 787 order and that base was always going to be at IAH. This is just follow through.

Once the pilot unions become one, there may be different delivery points for new a/c. For now, these sCO 787's will start by flying from BFI to IAH.
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting sweair (Reply 33):

Hard to imagine Boeing and UA being fro the same roots once in history.

And CO since it was Varney who founded both of them, UA and CO that is.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:34 am

Quoting sweair (Reply 33):

For that matter both UAL and CAL spramg from the same roots. Walter Varney, Varney Airlines and Varney Speedlines
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:28 pm

Just filed a flightplan to Grant Co ...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:58 pm

Okay, there was a issue yesterday, no crew was assigned to the flight all day. It was premature to say she was in the air. Took a tip and did not completely verify it. My bad. Today, she is scheduled to depart BFI at 8PM PDT with a IAH arrival of 1:48 AM. A flight crew is assigned.
Wonder on arrival if they will take her to a hangar or leave her at a gate. Trip # is ferry flight 6869, will be watching with anticipation.

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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:45 pm

Flight to Moses Lake just completed; Flightaware didn't show it as having taken off, but tracked on ADS-B.

[Edited 2012-09-23 11:50:01]
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:50 am

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 20):
Looks like it. Looks like the rumors that is was gonna be either SFO or ORD are now false!

There were no rumors that it was going to anywhere but IAH.

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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:12 am

So, what's the status now. It's 9:12pm DEN time.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:22 am

UAL686 is shown on flightaware as a 763 from HNL to HKG. Any reason it isn't showing the 787 ferry flight?
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:24 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 42):

I did hear them, but not from this site.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:37 am

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 44):
UAL686 is shown on flightaware as a 763 from HNL to HKG. Any reason it isn't showing the 787 ferry flight?

That flight is a ferry flight to HKG for the 763 to undergo mod to 2-cabin international version with Flatbed seats, AVOD etc.
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:42 am

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 44):
UAL686 is shown on flightaware as a 763 from HNL to HKG. Any reason it isn't showing the 787 ferry flight?

...because its a different flight?  

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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:47 pm

flight cancelled last night.

another run to Moses is scheduled for today.

[Edited 2012-09-24 05:48:54]
 
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RE: United 787 #3904 To IAH

Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Internal Boeing News say the plane was delivered to over the weekend. But the flight to Houston is not planned till later in the week.

Don't know any more details.

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