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Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:27 pm

Me and a couple of my friends are all booked on the first and only 787 flight for UA from CLE-IAH (UA1060), but looking at the seat map their are only about 30 seats taken. You would think that there would at least half or something full of PR people and reporters for the occasion, maybe even some of you guys and gals. Was it just not a popular route?
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:30 pm

Quoting n797mx (Thread starter):
Me and a couple of my friends are all booked on the first and only 787 flight for UA from CLE-IAH (UA1060), but looking at the seat map their are only about 30 seats taken. You would think that there would at least half or something full of PR people and reporters for the occasion, maybe even some of you guys and gals. Was it just not a popular route?

I tried to book that flight and tickets were astronomical. I could have flown to NRT for that kind of money. Maybe that's why the LF is low?
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:32 pm

Maybe one of the sCO insiders could provide a schedule of the hub to hub flights that are coming? I would try to make one out of IAH or DEN.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:39 pm

Quoting catdaddy63 (Reply 2):
Maybe one of the sCO insiders could provide a schedule of the hub to hub flights that are coming? I would try to make one out of IAH or DEN.

no need to be an insider, UA did a press release announcing the dates and times of service, so you figure out the flight numbers and united.com is showing the aircraft as '787-8 Dreamliner' for those specific routes and dates/times

http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings....-newsArticle&ID=1730079&highlight=

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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:46 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):

I snagged up CLE-IAH-SAT and back the same way for $258 for all four flights. You gotta know how to use the hubs I guess...  
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:53 pm

Quoting n797mx (Reply 4):

I snagged up CLE-IAH-SAT and back the same way for $258 for all four flights. You gotta know how to use the hubs I guess...

I just grabbed IAH-EWR-BDL for $114 ow. The connection over CLE was also available on that date.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:03 pm

DEN > IAH > DEN is $268 R/T flying the 787 DEN > IAH and then IAH > AUS > DEN on the return flight on 12/5/12.
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:06 pm

For $317 dollars round trip, I might just do it... Could be a five day late birthday gift to myself lol.
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:41 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
I tried to book that flight and tickets were astronomical. I could have flown to NRT for that kind of money.

I'm all booked, flying CLE-IAH-DFW for just over 300 bucks… hardly astronomical. Even CLE-IAH-CLE was like $405 or something.

What it comes down to is the public doesn't even know what a 787 is, and they certainly don't care enough to buy a ticket on a jet they don't otherwise need to fly on. I suspect it'll hit 100-150 pax, same as any IAH-bound 737. I never really understood why people on this website don't understand that 99.99% of the world doesn't think the way they do...
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:44 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 8):

Actually, I looked when I saw this thread and united's site had CLE-IAH-CLE at over $800 for the 787 flight.
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:47 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
I tried to book that flight and tickets were astronomical. I could have flown to NRT for that kind of money. Maybe that's why the LF is low?

The same was true on IAH-ORD the round trip on 787 was over $1200. They must be on drugs to charge that much.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:02 pm

Does United automatically assign seats at the time of purchase? I haven't flown United in years, so don't know. But I've noticed the same thing with DL's website....a flight might show a lot of open seats the day before the flight, but the plane is full when I've been on it. Does united.com allow seat selection only at purchase or check in, or would that be for certain fares? Anyway, maybe they just haven't assigned seats yet.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:09 pm

I'm on the 10 November SFO-IAH / IAH-CLE then overnight in CLE, and return to IAH on a 738 (since 787 service isn't offered the next day), then IAH-SFO on 787 again. I was surprised the flights were not sold out. I was even able to upgrade to United First with miles. All four legs combined (with upgrade fee) cost less than $500. I think that's a bargain. Especially considering how long I've followed the program, and have ached to fly a 787. Three legs on a 787!! Woo hoo!
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:16 pm

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 3):
no need to be an insider, UA did a press release announcing the dates and times of service

Thanks for posting that! I'm going to plan something for November when I have some time off. I found TUL-IAH-SFO-IAH-TUL for about $500. Almost a full 24 hours of airports and 787!
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:24 pm

Quoting thebry (Reply 12):
I was surprised the flights were not sold out. I was even able to upgrade to United First with miles. All four legs combined (with upgrade fee) cost less than $500. I think that's a bargain. Especially considering how long I've followed the program, and have ached to fly a 787. Three legs on a 787!! Woo hoo!

I'm not surprised the flights aren't sold out - it's still nearly 7 weeks out. Nonetheless, it appears there's a higher-than-average number of seats reserved, especially up front, on the flights operated with the 787, so it's attracting interest. That said, the average person doesn't care. And even though I'm a plane buff, let's be realistic: the 787 will be plentiful in just a few years (likely the dominate widebody among USA-based carriers), and will be gracing the skies until I'm dead. I'm not in a hurry  .
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:22 pm

I am on the 10th Nov EWR - IAH and 11th Nov IAH - EWR up front using FF miles.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Quoting CompensateMe (Reply 14):
I'm not surprised the flights aren't sold out - it's still nearly 7 weeks out.

30 seats sold 7 weeks out sounds about right. On domestic routes (outside of Hawaii) about 50% of tickets are purchased within 7 days of travel.
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:16 pm

Quoting cschleic (Reply 11):
Does United automatically assign seats at the time of purchase?

Yes.
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:03 pm

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 9):
Actually, I looked when I saw this thread and united's site had CLE-IAH-CLE at over $800 for the 787 flight.

Looks like it's up about 100 dollars to $501 right now. Unless you're talking about coming right back the same day? That seems like a dumb idea, though, particularly as the 787 is only 1 leg of the trip and it's an airplane that's only going to get more and more numerous. Spend the night, go somewhere fun, and save the $$.
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:41 am

Oh how I wish they would fly it DEN-EWR. Would have loved to treat myself to a birthday present GFK-DEN-EWR-BDL on 12/13. Such a bummer. Looks like I'm stuck on a boring CRJ and E170 on DL   .
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:42 am

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 19):
Oh how I wish they would fly it DEN-EWR. Would have loved to treat myself to a birthday present GFK-DEN-EWR-BDL on 12/13. Such a bummer. Looks like I'm stuck on a boring CRJ and E170 on DL .
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:51 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 20):
Fly GFK-DEN-IAH-EWR-BDL!

I'm trying to find a way to do it. The problem is I can get a one way for GFK-DEN-IAH-BDL for $368 but the return in Jan is $668. Compared to $500 one stop on DL both ways. Not sure I can convince the parentals it is worth it!
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:00 am

I booked LAX-IAH for the first weekend in November on the 787. The same day trips were outrageous, so I can imagine that might explain the higher prices the OP was seeing. However include a Saturday night stay and all of the sudden Friday-Sunday was a pretty cheap $380 R/T.

On my LAX-IAH flight there are already 7 seats reserved in 1st class and the return flight has 5 blocked off. I know that's not representative of purchases, but it seems pretty impressive considering it's 6 weeks away still.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:13 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 17):
Quoting cschleic (Reply 11):
Does United automatically assign seats at the time of purchase?

Yes.

Depends.... on how you have set your profile. It does not assign a seat to me until I go and select a seat.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:36 am

Take that back...there are now 15 seats out of the entire BF cabin booked on my outbound flight, which is half BF the cabin on the 787. And on the inbound flight, almost 20 seats in BF are booked. I imagine a lot of these are RPUs but still, I am betting UA is doing pretty well for what is a generic domestic flight on Friday night.
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:10 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 8):

True...public doesnt care...public doesnt know what kind of aircraft....

I had the privilege along with about 25 other enthusiasts of flying Delta's last scheduled L-1011 back in July of 2001 from MCO to ATL...Packed flight too...lots of hoopla, water cannon salute, cake announcements on departure and arrival and press too....90% of deplanning passengers ran through the jetway past all the press as their only concern was their connection...
 
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RE: Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA

Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:50 am

What's a good "fly past the hub" option for LAX? MSY, SAT? Seems a little tricky in Dec, because the eastbound flight LAX-IAH leaves at 6:25pm.

It's interesting to think that the first 787 into LAX, although not a regular service, will be from a domestic airline.

[Edited 2012-09-26 19:54:14]

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