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ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:38 pm

Stumbled across this ET 787 operating PAE-ADD nonstop. That's a seriously long flight..... nearly 9000 sm and 15 hours:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9202
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:39 pm

Thanks for sharing tjwgrr. So ET-AOR is finally on her way home. I am surprised ET did not try to make this a one-time rev flight.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:45 pm

PAE-ADD is only around 7,250nm, which the 787-8 is quite capable of - even with significant payload. Empty, the 787-8 can fly around 10,000nm.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:32 pm

Quoting CM (Reply 2):
PAE-ADD is only around 7,250nm, which the 787-8 is quite capable of - even with significant payload.

For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct. It's about 7800 nm. Still very well within the bird's capability.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:34 pm

Quoting tjwgrr (Thread starter):
Stumbled across this ET 787 operating PAE-ADD nonstop. That's a seriously long flight..... nearly 9000 sm and 15 hours:

It's capable of going over 22 hours empty, so certainly within "easy" range for a delivery flight.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct. It's about 7800 nm.

There's some ugly weather in the mid-Atlantic and it looks like they were picking up a North Atlantic Track.

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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:58 pm

It flew over to the East of London on it's way to Dover this afternoon. Nice.
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:09 am

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct

The route was flown more south than on a direct routing in order to take advantage of the jetstream.

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 4):
There's some ugly weather in the mid-Atlantic and it looks like they were picking up a North Atlantic Track

More to do with picking up the jetstream than a NAT track. Airlines regulary cross the north atlantic without being on a NAT track. This is the case for most flights from Europe to the west coast of Canada or California.

Nat tracks are changed daily to take advantage of the jetstream during the evening, or to avoid it during the morning and the early afternoon.

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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:01 am

Considering that QF uses old 744s to fly SYD-DFW, EK's DXB-LAX is almost exactly the same distance and flight path and that 737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop, I don't quite see why this is noteworthy. All negativity aside of course..
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:10 am

The CC-BBA (LAN) delivery flight took also about 15 hours.
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:24 am

I saw it on FR24 but there was too much cloud to see it, bummer!
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:00 am

seems et likes to stretch the legs on their just delivered aircraft. First ferried IAD then flew revenue to ADD! This next one ferries nonstop ADD.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:30 am

Quoting something (Reply 7):
737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop

This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:15 am

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):

PAE-Europe is done all the time on 737 delivery flights. Norwegian and Air Berlin are among those airlines taking current delivery streams and both fly their delivery flights direct to their respective bases.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:18 am

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

If they remove the seats it increases the range by quite a lot as well. The jetstream also helps extend the range as well. Unloaded a 737 can easily fly 3000nm or so.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:40 am

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 4):
It's capable of going over 22 hours empty, so certainly within "easy" range for a delivery flight.

Seems a few cortisone shots for the numb butts on the flight deck are in order.
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:12 pm

Quoting something (Reply 7):
Considering that QF uses old 744s to fly SYD-DFW, EK's DXB-LAX is almost exactly the same distance and flight path and that 737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop, I don't quite see why this is noteworthy. All negativity aside of course..

Sorry- didn't intend to force you to waste your time by reading the thread I started. I thought it noteworthy since it's a brand new 788 on a long delivery flight....   

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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:18 pm

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

NE flew it's 73G nonstop from PAE to PRG as I mentioned here:

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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:28 pm

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 15):

Don't worry about the people who read and take time posting on threads they don't believe should exist. It's not worth your time. Personally, I find the max (empty) range of airliners pretty interesting, so thanks for bringing it up!
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:21 pm

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 16):

NE flew it's 73G nonstop from PAE to PRG as I mentioned here:

And on special occasions, a 737 ferry flight can do this . . .

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/busin...ion-of-boeing-737-sets-new-record/

"6,506 miles between the two cities non-stop in 13 hours, 7 minutes and 54 seconds"

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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:39 pm

I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.
 
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:08 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 19):
I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.

I would be very surprised if that was the case. To the naked eye, MRU seems almost antipodal to PAE.
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RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight

Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:19 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 19):
I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.
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