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Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:49 pm

After being outdelivered by Airbus in 2011 and 2010, Boeing are running away with it this year.

By the end of September they had delivered 126 widebodies compared to 88 for Airbus. That gives Boeing a 59% to 41% advantage.

To put this in context, last year Boeing delivered 105 widebodies in 12 months. They are already far ahead of that with three months still to go.

Of course, Airbus aren't doing too badly either. On present form they'll deliver more than the 113 they managed last year.

There are various ways of looking at Boeing's lead this year.

1. They have delivered 38 freighters. Airbus have delivered 5.
2. Boeing have four widebodies in production. Airbus have two.
3. The 747 and especially the 787 are starting to roll off the production lines.
4. The (latest) A380 woes haven't helped Airbus.

That said, the airliner with the highest production rate is the A330 (71 delivered in nine months) with the 777 trailing in second place (62 in nine months).

More than half the widebodies delivered so far this year have GE engines. RR have about a third of the market.

Until the A350 comes on stream, Airbus are decidedly at a disadvantage.
 
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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:59 pm

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Until the A350 comes on stream, Airbus are decidedly at a disadvantage.

Disadvantage is the wrong word as I don't see it as a race.

More important is: Boeing and Airbus together are on track to beat the industry annual record of 255 in 1999.
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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:16 pm

Quoting PM (Thread starter):
To put this in context, last year Boeing delivered 105 widebodies in 12 months. They are already far ahead of that with three months still to go.

Many of those are 787s that should have been delivered 3 or 4 years ago.
 
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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:26 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
Many of those are 787s that should have been delivered 3 or 4 years ago.

And productionrates should have been on levels that are three or four years out, which is higher than now. So in that light Boeing's still doing worse than planned  
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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:34 pm

As noted many of the deliveries are 788 a/c. Remember that a fair number of frames have been nearly complete and sitting since last calendar year. The finish out and delivery in 2012 is slightly artificial due to the delays.

Regardless, the widebody refresh and expansion is back among the world's airlines.
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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:38 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
Many of those are 787s that should have been delivered 3 or 4 years ago.

Pot, meet (A380) kettle!

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 3):
And productionrates should have been on levels that are three or four years out, which is higher than now. So in that light Boeing's still doing worse than planned

See above...  
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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:42 pm

And to think that. for the moment, Boeing has both secured more orders for the 747-8 Intercontinental in 2012 than Airbus has for the A380-800 (if only by one).   

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RE: Widebody Deliveries - First 9 Months

Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:36 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 6):
And to think that. for the moment, Boeing has both secured more orders for the 747-8 Intercontinental in 2012 than Airbus has for the A380-800 (if only by one).   

Yet have the smaller order book   
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