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The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:43 pm

Does anyone have an update on this?

A330


I flew out Sunday and must say it is starting to look dirty and a bit sad.Why is it still sitting here, are there unpaid fees, I think operations closed on 10th September
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:29 pm

Hong Kong Airlines are still operating or did Hainan close them down?

Are you referring to LGW operations or their total operations?

Quoting readytotaxi (Thread starter):
I think operations closed on 10th September

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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:03 pm

Which one is it btw? Looks to be B-HNL?
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:05 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 2):
Which one is it btw? Looks to be B-HNL?

- I'd like to know too, saw it there the other week when returning from Malaga.
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:06 pm

I was under the assumption that they were for maintenance? Sometimes there was up to 3 stored on the remote LGW ramps?
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:10 pm

The president is quoted as saying;

"Our plan is to re-deploy the three specially equipped, all-business-class A330s which currently service the London route to charter flights."

Could it be that they have left one A332 based in the UK to try and pick up higher end charter work?


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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:34 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 2):

Yes,it is.

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 1):
Are you referring to LGW operations or their total operations?

Sorry, yes just the LGW route.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Could it be that they have left one A332 based in the UK to try and pick up higher end charter work?


Nice idea,good luck with that HKA.  
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:35 am

The aircraft in question cannot be B-HNL, as this registration belongs to B-777-267 (msn 27116) owned by CX. All of HX A332's registration start with B-LN*
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:40 am

I'm not sure which aircraft is involved but one aircraft is certainly used for various charters. Recently it was used by Manchester United football club.
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:57 am

Maybe you meant B-LNL?

I know B-LNJ is on the ramp in HKG and there is another one in the hangar but I don't know the reg.

No-one knows what is happening to these A330s but some of their A330 pilots have been told they are to transfer to the A320 so it sounds like the A330 fleet will be cut. I except these three A330s will be reconfigured and join the Hainan Airlines fleet.

There are rumours of some real financial issues now at HKA and the last few A320 delivery flights have been subjected to last minute delays because of financing. One of my friends was there to fly one of them home and was told that the delivery flight had been cancelled so the crew headed back to HKG. The aircraft has since been delivered but rumours of their financial issues continue.

Their two remaining 737-300Fs departed HKG recently to rejoin the Yangtze River Express fleet. Some of their 737-800s will apparently be heading back to the parent company soon as well, although in all fairness this was always the plan once the A320s started arriving.
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:39 am

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
No-one knows what is happening to these A330s but some of their A330 pilots have been told they are to transfer to the A320 so it sounds like the A330 fleet will be cut. I except these three A330s will be reconfigured and join the Hainan Airlines fleet.

News said that those A330VIP will be kept and leased to HU, Hong Kong Airlines' parent company for the domestic flights in China.

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
There are rumours of some real financial issues now at HKA and the last few A320 delivery flights have been subjected to last minute delays because of financing. One of my friends was there to fly one of them home and was told that the delivery flight had been cancelled so the crew headed back to HKG. The aircraft has since been delivered but rumours of their financial issues continue.

They are not facing financial difficulties. Yes, the LGW route posted a significant loss. However, the management claimed that Hong Kong Airlines are still earning profits upto now. Actually, the loading of their flights are quiet healthy.

The delay of A320 delivery is mainly due to the restriction imposed by the Hong Kong Government. They limited their fleet's size so that no new planes can be added to the fleet untill some planes are bening removed from the fleet.
As a result, certain plants are transferred to Hong Kong Express, their sister company or other HU's subsidiaries.

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
Their two remaining 737-300Fs departed HKG recently to rejoin the Yangtze River Express fleet. Some of their 737-800s will apparently be heading back to the parent company soon as well, although in all fairness this was always the plan once the A320s started arriving.

As mentioned above, such movement enable them to put those newly deliveried A320 into serivce.
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:32 am

It is B-LNK and last flew on the 2nd of September. It's been at LGW since and its various sensitive pieces are taped up for some description of storage. The whole fleet was parked up here at one point but the two others are flying charters somewhere.
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:33 am

Hmm and someone doubted me when I mentioned this in my trip report a few weeks ago... At that time there were 2 of them there on the 16th of september.
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:50 am

One of the A332VIP B-LNJ is currently in HK.

It was used to filming a TV programme sponsored by Hong Kong Airlines
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:13 am

Quoting Tupolevtu154 (Reply 11):
It is B-LNK and last flew on the 2nd of September. It's been at LGW since and its various sensitive pieces are taped up for some description of storage

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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:14 am

Tupoloevtu154 it's right it's the B-LNK, badly, but if you see the main picture it's possible see the register in the landing gear.

[Edited 2012-10-09 02:30:39]
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:48 am

Have heard from an ex Hong Kong Airlines Cargo employee that they are on 'free' storage as agreed with airline and airport. As there is no need for this specially configured aircraft back in HKG just yet they will be left at LGW just for now.

Cargo loads were going great btw, just the pax figures not great !
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:40 am

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
Maybe you meant B-LNL?

Yes I did, I should never post from memory without checking, especially when my mind is on booking with Cathay over Christmas....
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:49 am

Quoting theobcman (Reply 16):
Cargo loads were going great btw

not suprising with the rates they offered. they wouldnt have been making money on the cargo though.
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:41 am

As a member of HU's FFP, I just got the following massage from them.

Those A330VIP will be used to operate HU's domestic flight between Shengzhen and Beijing.
The service will begin in October.

More details, please refer to: (only in Chinese)
http://www.hnair.com/images/a330/index.html
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:18 pm

Further to what I said some days ago, B-LNK is apparently due to depart LGW for Haikou on Tuesday (16th) on long-term wetlease to Hainan Airlines.
 
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RE: The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:14 pm

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 10):
They are not facing financial difficulties. Yes, the LGW route posted a significant loss. However, the management claimed that Hong Kong Airlines are still earning profits upto now. Actually, the loading of their flights are quiet healthy.

Thats not what I have heard and last year they lost over HK$200 Million as quoted by several sources including the CX CEO.

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 10):
The delay of A320 delivery is mainly due to the restriction imposed by the Hong Kong Government. They limited their fleet's size so that no new planes can be added to the fleet untill some planes are bening removed from the fleet.
As a result, certain plants are transferred to Hong Kong Express, their sister company or other HU's subsidiaries.

Yes but this was announced several weeks before the A320s deliveries. You don't send a crew to pick up new aircraft from Toulouse if you know the CAD will not allow them into the fleet. The delays were financial as funds from HU were being held up.