varigb707
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TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:20 pm

JJ 8055 CDG/GIG A330

http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/n...o-que-teve-pane-chegam-cidade.html
(original report in Portuguese. Translation made possible by Google Translate)

"Passengers on a flight from TAM had a crash near Paris, and had to make emergency landing, arrived early on Friday (12) International Airport Tom Jobim / Galeao in Rio de Janeiro. And was told how the drama inside the plane, as shown by the Good Day River
The flight arrived in Rio this morning at 1:26 a.m., with almost two hours late. Relatives looked forward to landing.
The TAM flight 8055 took off from Charles de Gaulle Airport, France. The trip, straight to Rio de Janeiro, was to last 11 hours and a half. But 17 minutes later, the Airbus A330 made an emergency landing at Charles de Gaulle again.
Passengers reported a noise in the right engine of the aircraft. Soon after, the cabin lights went out and the commander warned that the plane would return.
"The turbine exploded right. There was a deafening noise. Passegeiros The remained calm, inexplicably. But there was panic, there was crying, there was shock. Commander was a skill mad because the plane began to shake a lot to the right and left, losing altitude, turn the nozzle down and he, with an extraordinary mastery, balanced and stuff. He said nothing. was thought that the flight would follow its normal course, when he warned: I missed the turbine the right and we'll return to Paris, "said one passenger.
 
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Another passenger reported: "There was a smell. You do not know what it was. Was really scary. I thought the plane was going down. ... I did a prayer was what I did at the time."

They also have the landing in France was tense, but no problems.
TAM reported that all were accommodated in hotels in the airport area and received assistance from the company.
"I was in the hallway and I saw them for a moment, turned off the lights and lit emergency corridor. An absolute silence by the plane. And everyone thought it was going to die anyway," reported a third passenger.
TAM confirmed that there was a crash caused by a great variation in pressure inside an engine. But engineers are still analyzing what caused the crash.
The return to Rio was a relief after the scare.
"People have remained a bit quiet. But it was hard, very hard.'s Good to be back in Brazil," said a passenger.
TAM said it remains A330 at Paris for analysis of the company's engineers. According to the TAM plane was manufactured 12 years ago and the maintenance was up to date."
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rfields5421
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:26 pm

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
Translation made possible by Google Translate)

And it is really a mess.

So

1 - engine problems after takeoff from CDG
2 - sensationalism of the media about the relativley routine return to CDG for landing
3 - the pax were placed on another aircraft TAM had in Paris, and arrived at GIG only two hours late

That is extremely efficient.
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:17 pm

Quote:
O comandante foi de uma habilidade louca porque o avião começou a balançar muito para a direita e para a esquerda, a perder altitude, a virar o bico para baixo e ele, com uma maestria extraordinária, equilibrou e coisa e tal.

"The pilot had some crazy skills because the plane started to roll a lot to the right and the left, and lost altitude, and the nose pointed down and he, with extraordinary mastery, like, equilibrated the thing and so on."

Once upon a time, it was the job of the journalists to filter out (perfectly understandable) emotions and report factual information.
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RodRB
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 1):
the pax were placed on another aircraft TAM had in Paris, and arrived at GIG only two hours late

They arrived 20 hours late. Check the report from The Aviation Herald:

http://avherald.com/h?article=45743186&opt=0

TAM did what had to be done, but it's the second major problem with a TAM A330 recently.

I also had a problem with PT-MVE last year. We were flying back from JFK and the aircraft had a electrical problem and the main cabin remained dark from Venezuela to Rio, more than 4 hours. It was a bit scary.
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:15 pm

I am not superstitious but there is an odd series of coincidences on the Rio/Paris route. Three weeks ago I flew GIG to CDG on a TAM A330. (a very nice flight in business)

* First was VARIG's worst crash in 1972: after taking off from CDG an RG 707 caught fire and tried to return to CDG but didn't make it killing either all aboard or almost all. The pictures are horrible. Then AF 447. Now this. It's not that 3 incidents over 40 years, it's the fact it's the Rio de Janeiro / Paris route. Thank God nobody was hurt.

Naturally I would fly the route again, I don't think it's got a curse. But just odd.

* I am not sure if the RG crash in Africa was worse, nor do I recall the route.
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spiritair97
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:24 pm

If the emergency landing was in CDG, shouldn't the title of the thread be changed to say that?

Either way, must've been pretty scary to be on that plane. TAM hasn't been having the best luck lately.
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:52 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):

The crash was near ORY, and CDG didn't exist at the time.
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 6):

Obrigado for the facts!!!
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:25 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 1):
That is extremely efficient.

They have to, or the brazilians will set fire on everything... you gotta work with them to see!

Quoting RodRB (Reply 3):
I also had a problem with PT-MVE last year. We were flying back from JFK and the aircraft had a electrical problem and the main cabin remained dark from Venezuela to Rio, more than 4 hours. It was a bit scary.

I had several posts deleted or moderated because I did state that: Although mechanical failures happens on every single airlines, JJ maintenance's reputation in brazil is very INfamous, things seem to only happen to JJ here, is it any wonder?
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:30 am

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 8):
JJ maintenance's reputation in brazil is very INfamous, things seem to only happen to JJ here

This is an extremely COMMON event, one that rarely results in a dangerous situation for anyone and that happens almost every day to aircraft

JJ maintenance is not infamous in any way, and these things do not only happen to them. I work in aviation in Latin America and TAM (now LATAMs) maintenance is first class, as are the pilots. I would fly them over certain EU airlines any day.

(As a note, I don't work for LatAm either!!)
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:48 am

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 8):
JJ maintenance's reputation in brazil is very INfamous

I don't know what is going on in Brazil but I know JJ chief engineer personally at CDG.
He's a very serious guy and loves his job. Maintenance from here is 1st class.
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andrefranca
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:55 am

Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
JJ maintenance is not infamous in any way

Really? so why Avianca Brazil former Oceanair used to call their Fokker-100, MK-27? Because the mishaps with JJ's fokkers were so frequent that the people and media started to make a lot of noise about it, and this noise became fear, I avoid JJ at all costs! and then you may ask, but it was fokker's problems not JJ's, my uncle was mechanic at JJ's and JJ blames fokker and fokker blames JJ and so on!  
Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
maintenance is first class, as are the pilots

Missing approaches, striking trees, bombs issues aboard, Running over a cow due to miscalculating the gas needed on the route, you should do some google search! lots of lives were lost in only 36 years of history? I'll stick to the european airlines thank you!

Quoting varig md-11 (Reply 10):

I imagine there are good techs around! but the best ones go to the one with highest salaries.....
 
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RE: TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning

Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:02 am

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 11):

Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
JJ maintenance is not infamous in any way

Really? so why Avianca Brazil former Oceanair used to call their Fokker-100, MK-27? Because the mishaps with JJ's fokkers were so frequent that the people and media started to make a lot of noise about it, and this noise became fear, I avoid JJ at all costs! and then you may ask, but it was fokker's problems not JJ's, my uncle was mechanic at JJ's and JJ blames fokker and fokker blames JJ and so on!  
Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
maintenance is first class, as are the pilots

Missing approaches, striking trees, bombs issues aboard, Running over a cow due to miscalculating the gas needed on the route, you should do some google search! lots of lives were lost in only 36 years of history? I'll stick to the european airlines thank you!

Quoting varig md-11 (Reply 10):

I imagine there are good techs around! but the best ones go to the one with highest salaries.....

I think you've made your point already! Anything else you wanna share????

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