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WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:12 am

Although theres been no announcement yet, a quick serach on southwest.com for flights from AND CURRENT: Denver - International (DEN / KDEN), USA - Colorado">DEN MDW AND HOU to BKG gets a message stating service is disc as of 4/13. If so that was a pretty quick failure !
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:15 am

oh, and I dont know what the 'and current' part of the post is about, airliners added that ?
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:15 am

What and where is "BKG"?
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:15 am

I would wait a little while, their could be schedule problems etc... If its true, that could be why 4 new cities are starting.

[Edited 2012-10-22 04:22:41]
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:20 am

Quoting sccutler (Reply 2):
What and where is "BKG"?

Branson, MO
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:22 am

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 3):

lol, you mean wn has it issues sometimes. .. . when did that start?   but seriously I checked the network planning site as well for a gate sheet and got a blank page returned. . .so. . .that doesnt sound good. . . .
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:01 pm

Not surprised. WN has yet to show it can make money in smaller markets. Maybe G4 can create a small focus city in BKG.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:12 pm

Why is this airport being called "BKG"? It is "BBG."

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KBBG

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Ah, see there is a conflict between the IATA code and the FAA-assigned airport identifier.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:30 pm

Quoting sccutler (Reply 7):
www.flybranson.com

refers the code to bkg as well
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:30 pm

For what it's worth, the schedule section in the Southwest website now does not show any PDF's for Branson past April 6.

I suspect it is not coincidental that Frontier briefly loaded Branson being dropped on 4/6 to their website. One of the conditions of the Branson subsidy agreement is that routes are monopolies, so suspicion that Frontier was dropping Branson because Southwest would start competing with them to Denver don't quite work. But it just seems too strange for this to be all unrelated and coincidental.

A few possible things come to mind....only brainstormed thoughts on my part not supported by anything....

(1) Might there be an end or sharp reduction in subsidy available as of 4/6? If so, perhaps Frontier was gonig to leave but has decided to stay with little or no subsidy once the airport told them that Southwest was leaving.

(2) Perhaps things are not going so well for anybody, and when the airport found that both Southwest and Frontier were leaving they tried hard to sweeten the pot and convinced Frontier to stay.

(3) Perhaps Southwest really viewed Denver as lynchpin to Branson service, and when the airport wouldn't give it to them, they decided to take their ball and go home.

Those are **only** my own brainstormed speculative thoughts, and perhaps there's something out there to shoot one or each of them down. But it just seems there has to be something more to this. A key point to remember is that just because this is a subsidized market does not necessarily mean that profits are guaranteed to be plentiful and permanent. I've heard conflicting things about the Branson contracts, so I'm not sure what to believe. Perhaps in spite of subsidy they still are losing money. Or changes to the contract mean that after April 6 they will lose money. Or, perhaps the handwriting is on the wall that current subsidies won't last forever, and things are trending poorly enough that Southwest has decided it's not worth the energy, effort and equipment in the long term to stay in Branson, even if the flying generates some profit while it lasts.

Again, just my own thoughts about what possibly could be going on. I hope we find out.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:32 pm

BKG has been its code since it opened. Now if they are changing the code that is one thing, but it has always been BKG.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:32 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 6):
WN has yet to show it can make money in smaller markets.

CRP?
JAN?
RSW?
GSP?
CHS?
ECP?

Are those not "smaller markets?"
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:35 pm

BRO
HRL
MFE

The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard before posting a message in this forum and make it detailed and a valuable addition to the topic discussed.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:49 pm

I know load factors don't mean profit, but considering the average LF for WN @ BKG is in the mid 50% range, I'm surprised they decided to keep it around post merger. WN/FL dropped cities with more daily flights and higher loads. With Springfield and NW Arkansas not too far away, I think Branson isn't going to be able to cut it for anyone in the long term.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:31 pm

Color me confused. The PDFs are still showing n/s service at the end of May:

http://www.southwest.com/assets/pdfs...les/20130528_20121022_0500/bkg.pdf
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:44 pm

Quoting sdoyon (Reply 14):

that is wierd. . . .I wonder if this is an IT issue after all. . . but kinda odd that its so late and hasnt been fixed, , , dont they all watch this site anyway??
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:59 pm

There is an issue with the schedules showing...it'll be fixed later today.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:00 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11):
CRP?
JAN?
RSW?
GSP?
CHS?
ECP?

Are those not "smaller markets?"

My answer

CRP - Grandfathered in from "old WN'
JAN - More or less forced to fly there (oh the things senators used to be able to pull off)
RSW - Not a small market
GSP - Not as small of a market as the world thinks
CHS - Not a small market
ECP - Entered because of a revenue guarantee, which they allegedly havent used. Like RSW, this is a destination

I don't think the appropriate question is "can" WN make money in small markets, because many are sure they could. They are the ones that generally don't believe they can.

Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 13):
I know load factors don't mean profit, but considering the average LF for WN @ BKG is in the mid 50% range, I'm surprised they decided to keep it around post merger. WN/FL dropped cities with more daily flights and higher loads. With Springfield and NW Arkansas not too far away, I think Branson isn't going to be able to cut it for anyone in the long term.

Them staying made no sense to me. I can only assume there was serious financial backing involved. It is a private airport after all.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:34 pm

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 17):
Like RSW, this is a destination

Branson fancies itself as a destination.

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 17):
They are the ones that generally don't believe they can.

Then why not drop CRP and JAN?
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:46 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):
Branson fancies itself as a destination.

Well I reckon it is a small one, but the fly market isn't nearly what the bus market is.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):
Then why not drop CRP and JAN?

I'm pretty sure CRP is working. They've been there so long that the market has matured and they probably get a decent yield from CRP. Had they not ever flown to CRP and were just taking a look at the market now days, I'd bet money they wouldn't fly there.

JAN is probably on the lower end of the performance sheet, but even a marginal city can survive just fine.

What you are saying reinforces my point. They are in some small cities and making them work, yet don't seem to believe they can do it on a larger scale.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:50 pm

Again...BKG isn't being dropped. Schedules will be loaded later today for it.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:53 pm

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 19):
What you are saying reinforces my point. They are in some small cities and making them work, yet don't seem to believe they can do it on a larger scale.

No, I agree with that. I was addressing the assertion that WN cannot make small markets work.
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:50 pm

BKG isn't on the route map on Southwest.com.

I don't know if that is also related to the same IT issue or not.

Either way, unless BKG is cutting them big checks, I don't see how this could be profitable for WN.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 22):
BKG isn't on the route map on Southwest.com.
yes it is

LoneStarMike
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:05 pm

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 20):
Again...BKG isn't being dropped. Schedules will be loaded later today for it.
Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 22):
BKG isn't on the route map on Southwest.com.

BKG (Branson) is back http://www.southwest.com/flight/routemap_dyn.html
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:14 pm

Odd. Different route maps. When you click on Travel Guide > Route map, it is not.

http://travel.southwest.com/travel/exploreTravel.html?int=GNAVTRVLGUDE
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:19 pm

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 20):
Again...BKG isn't being dropped. Schedules will be loaded later today for it.

BKG wasn''t mentioned in the official release as being dropped, so it looks like it's safe after all.

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 19):
I'm pretty sure CRP is working. They've been there so long that the market has matured and they probably get a decent yield from CRP.
CRP performs below average for load factors, but I don't have any yield info. Last month WN was running at a 46% LF and there are months so far this year below 40%. Another interesting thing: UA, AA, and WN were all at almost exactly the same market share in Corpus Christi last month (33% each).

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 24):
BKG (Branson) is back http://www.southwest.com/flight/rout....html

It depends how you get to the route map I think. PDX is showing up as no routes and PWM is showing odd routes so the two are still confused.

Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 25):

Happy 6 years a.netter!

[Edited 2012-10-22 11:17:24]
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:27 pm

The maps are meaningless in knowing if a route or market will be dropped in the future. Even if they are dropping BKG, they will be serving Branson up to mid April, and so it still belongs there.

The real proof is is they load flights to the scheule and make them for sale. So far there are none past April 13.

If that changes, we will know it's not being dropped. It is rather strange that Branson is out of the schedule after 4/13 and that it was not mentioned in the PR item along with the other route cuts. We'll know soon one way or another, I'm sure.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:03 pm

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 27):
If that changes, we will know it's not being dropped. It is rather strange that Branson is out of the schedule after 4/13 and that it was not mentioned in the PR item along with the other route cuts. We'll know soon one way or another, I'm sure.

Sigh. BKG isn't going away. There is an issue with the schedule displaying. Check back later today and it should be fixed.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:11 pm

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 9):
I suspect it is not coincidental that Frontier briefly loaded Branson being dropped on 4/6 to their website. One of the conditions of the Branson subsidy agreement is that routes are monopolies, so suspicion that Frontier was dropping Branson because Southwest would start competing with them to Denver don't quite work. But it just seems too strange for this to be all unrelated and coincidental.
Quoting knope2001 (Reply 9):
(1) Might there be an end or sharp reduction in subsidy available as of 4/6?

I guess it is all coincidental. I don't think WN will be nearly so quick to close station converted from FL. Clearly there are going to be a bunch of bad performances post-conversation, but WN will give them time.

Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 22):
Either way, unless BKG is cutting them big checks, I don't see how this could be profitable for WN.

FL was doing horrible numbers to MDW and HOU.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 26):
Last month WN was running at a 46% LF and there are months so far this year below 40%.

CRP should also be closed, but WN is very reluctant to close WN branded stations which is why BKG is safe for now.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:17 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 29):
FL was doing horrible numbers to MDW and HOU.

But FL also didn't offer many if any connections.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:25 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 29):
FL was doing horrible numbers to MDW and HOU.

FL also didn't have massive connection opportunities in MDW and HOU to move passengers through. I really don't get why people are so hung up on measuring the success WN will have by the performance in the FL network. Two different networks. WN is far larger and better equipped to serve a market like Branson that has more recognition in traditional WN markets than FL.

This thread pretty much has ran its course though. BKG isn't closing so this thread should probably end as well.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:27 pm

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 30):
But FL also didn't offer many if any connections.

Exactly. People want to compare FL numbers and expect WN to pull the same, but that just isn't realistic. It is like people comparing FL's CAK-MKE to WN's CAK-MDW...two completely different markets, but people still tried to compare. It is amazing what offering service into stations with over 200 flights a day can do for a route that had little (or no) connections available on another carrier.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:45 pm

BKG?

Flightaware shows it as BBG

Airnav information has it BBG

The FAA sectional charts and instrument approaches show it as BBG

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBKG - nothing

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBBG - here it is

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1210/10372IL32.PDF

The photo search on this site shows Branson as BBG

Can somebody tell me why WN calls it BKG?
Clickable links only please!
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:48 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 33):
Can somebody tell me why WN calls it BKG?

Because the IATA does.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:52 pm

Hi All,

Southwest Airlines has not discontinued our previously announced service to Branson, Mo (BKG), With our new schedule opening today it can sometimes take up to 12 hours for the entire schedule to become available to the public. The Branson, MO schedule and fares took a little longer to load and are now available on southwest.com. Thank you for your interest! We are all excited about the new Southwest service to the "Live Music Show Capital of the World"!

--Rob Southwest Airlines

[Edited 2012-10-22 12:53:30]
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:59 pm

My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:00 pm

Quoting SouthwestAir (Reply 35):

awsome. . .(but its still gives the disc message) anyways looks like my plans to check out outlaw run at silver dollar city are still on  
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:09 pm

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 36):
This will end the BBG vs BKG argument...

http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2...code/

Thank you. I mean really people. Unless you are just that tuned out...Branson has been BKG for awhile now.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:10 pm

Quoting SouthwestAir (Reply 35):
Southwest Airlines has not discontinued our previously announced service to Branson, Mo (BKG),

Thank you very much!

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 36):
This will end the BBG vs BKG argument...

Thank you, this truly ends that subject.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:42 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):
Branson fancies itself as a destination.

Oh it's a destination...but somehow I don't see your average Branson tourist as entirely likely to fly there. Seems more like a destination for the likes of G4 and NK if anything. I find it bizarre that WN is running this one at all.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:48 pm

Quoting RamblinMan (Reply 40):
Oh it's a destination...but somehow I don't see your average Branson tourist as entirely likely to fly there.

Three years ago, I'd have said the same thing about Destin/ECP.
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:20 pm

As of 4:20 p.m., CDT, southwest.com still stating BKG service discontinuing as of April 13. I know what's been said on here, nevertheless, you still cannot book BKG on SWA after 4/13. Can't find a similar loading delay with any other SWA station on this extended schedule.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:31 pm

Quoting 727tiger (Reply 42):

As of 4:20 p.m., CDT, southwest.com still stating BKG service discontinuing as of April 13. I know what's been said on here, nevertheless, you still cannot book BKG on SWA after 4/13. Can't find a similar loading delay with any other SWA station on this extended schedule.

Might be something that is requiring more work. We already have an official statement from WN on this thread (from Rob above)...so no need to really read into it anymore.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:10 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 41):
Quoting RamblinMan (Reply 40):
Oh it's a destination...but somehow I don't see your average Branson tourist as entirely likely to fly there.

Three years ago, I'd have said the same thing about Destin/ECP.

That is a bigger destination and a greater local population but I was also surprised with that one.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:17 pm

Thanks for your patience everyone! The Branson, MO schedule is now fully loaded and you can book as far out as our schedule is currently open, which is through 5/31/13.

Rob
Southwest Airlines
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:43 pm

Quoting SouthwestAir (Reply 45):
Thanks for your patience everyone! The Branson, MO schedule is now fully loaded and you can book as far out as our schedule is currently open, which is through 5/31/13.

Rob
Southwest Airlines



Looks like we jumped the gun and BKG is around thru May 31st.
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:51 am

Quoting SouthwestAir (Reply 45):


Looks like we jumped the gun and BKG is around thru May 31st

Same frequencies too:

1x HOU
1x MDW
1x DAL
1x MCO (Saturday only)
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:41 am

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 46):
Quoting SouthwestAir (Reply 45):
Thanks for your patience everyone! The Branson, MO schedule is now fully loaded and you can book as far out as our schedule is currently open, which is through 5/31/13.

Rob
Southwest Airlines

Looks like we jumped the gun and BKG is around thru May 31st.


+1....obviously speculation on this peculiar glitch is unfounded.

[Edited 2012-10-22 19:42:24]
 
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RE: WN Dropping BKG

Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:20 am

Quoting SouthwestAir (Reply 45):

Thanks for your patience everyone! The Branson, MO schedule is now fully loaded and you can book as far out as our schedule is currently open, which is through 5/31/13.

Rob
Southwest Airlines

.

Thanks for setting this straight. But I find your post pretty interesting, mainly for what it reveals. I've seen company interests represented on A.net in the form of start-ups airlines (California Pacific, for instance), and assume all airlines at least monitor what goes on in a "lurking" fashion, behind the scenes, but are you the first obviously non-anonymous participant from a major airline? Are their others I'm missing?

I see positives and negatives. On the plus side, the known obvious monitoring of chat could cut down on blabbing employees from breaking company policy. (They shouldn't for their own and their company's good.) And, stupid rumors could be cut down early. On the other hand, it's a bit of a chilling impact on discussion. A.net thrives on rumors, and on free critique of companies (including by employees of their own companies).

Thoughts, everyone?

-Rampart

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