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LAXintl
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Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:35 pm

Open Joint Stock Company Transaero Airlines today applied with the DOT to add San Francisco as a service point in addition to Los Angeles, Miami and New York gateways.

Transaero states it intends to offer seasonal twice weekly scheduled service between Moscow Domodedovo Airport and SFO begining March 31, 2013 per below schedule.

Mon/Thu
DME-SFO 1200-1320
SFO-DME 1520-1435

No equipment is listed, but the request makes comment that available Transaero fleet compromises of both 777 and 747 models.


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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:40 pm

FINALLY!! Russia back at SFO.

I would guess 777 considering that UA has been doing some heavy maintenance on theirs. I believe some of the 777's are ex-UA.
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:49 pm

Glad to get more variety at SFO. Any chance we see a 773 non-er? i would assume that's a tad bit too far
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Per the Russia-side application, UN also intends to add additional service to Miami, but via Shannon to compliment the non-stops.

[Edited 2012-10-24 12:56:50]
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:54 pm

Huge Russian community in SFO area. I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:49 pm

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
Huge Russian community in SFO area. I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

I recall hearing once that Sacramento also has a very large Russian community. Can anybody confirm that? This announcement is great news. Is there any reason why the DOT wouldn't approve the application?
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:00 am

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 5):

Yes, Sacramento and Yolo County have a nice size Russian population.
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:07 am

Looking forward to more international carriers at SFO! I still remember when SU operated their 777s to SFO.
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:07 am

Who wants to fly on UN, they are a horrible airline with mediocre service, let SU expand its service to North America. Why is SU letting a charter carrier like UN outgrow it in North America?
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:30 am

Considering the majority of travel between the countries originates in Russia, and is made up of Russian holiday makers, UN is quite suited for the task.

SU on the other hand is a network carrier, it needs certain schedule consistency and mix of business travelers to make a flight work.
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:33 am

Can they really make money on twice weekly service? I never understand how airlines make routes work less than daily/ 6x a week. Not to mention does the crew sit in SFO the whole time waiting for the flight back?
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:10 am

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):

The crew might get rotated down to LAX but I do remember when SU flew to SFO, they did have a long layover.
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:42 am

Do the States and Russia have an Open Skies agreement?
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:48 am

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):

I'd imagine that the crew would be busy readying the aircraft for the flight back during the turnaround. It is only a two hour layover so it probalby isn't that bad.
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:02 am

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 13):

Not possible. Crews have a maximum duty hours.
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:28 am

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 12):
Do the States and Russia have an Open Skies agreement?

No. Not even close.
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:29 am

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

SU will be back at SFO, time will show. Aircraft logistics made SFO hard to work back in the day with the two 777s that they had.

Aeroflot has a ton of planes on order, expansion will come naturally. UN is more of a leisure airline, so twice weekly makes sense for them.
 
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RE: Transaero Applies For SFO Service

Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:34 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 3):
Per the Russia-side application, UN also intends to add additional service to Miami, but via Shannon to compliment the non-stops.

If this happens, would UN use the US CBP pre-clearance facility? If so, would they permit pick-up/drop-off at SNN or would they not permit any local traffic?
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