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United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:01 am

UA7708 enroute showing an ETA of 202pm in AMS on October 25th

[Edited 2012-10-24 21:03:29]
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:35 am

This is a FAA proving flight.. Sadly no passengers allowed yet. A visit to NRT is also planned soon.
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:48 am

Expected at 1202z at AMS. Just when I have nothing to do at work. Guess I'm going plane spotting 

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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:13 pm

She's here! My first time up close with a 787. What a gorgeous bird!

Arrival video can be found here;
http://youtu.be/kxeyU7rK3ho

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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:28 pm

Any idea why UAL chose AMS as a SkyTeam hub over FRA to fly their new bird?
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:33 pm

Quoting holzmann (Reply 4):
Any idea why UAL chose AMS as a SkyTeam hub over FRA to fly their new bird?

Here are some choices
1) less fuel to AMS vs FRA
2) lower landing fees / restrictions vs FRA, LHR etc
3) AF/KL wanted to get a good look at it, so Boeing paid for the fuel
4) AMS is more fun than FRA for a layover
5) Had cargo they could take
6) Borrowed DL's route dartboard and turned it into a Proving Run Dartboard
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:33 pm

I assume this has everything to do with AMS being one of the first regular destinations for the UA 787's
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:34 pm

Quoting holzmann (Reply 4):
Any idea why UAL chose AMS as a SkyTeam hub over FRA to fly their new bird?

Because that will be one of their first international deployments, on IAH-AMS. It's just temporary until more 787s arrive. The 787s are based in IAH and IAH-AMS is an easy deployment since it only requires one shell and replaces a similar capacity aircraft (764).
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:41 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 3):

She's here! My first time up close with a 787. What a gorgeous bird!

Arrival video can be found here;
http://youtu.be/kxeyU7rK3ho

Martijn

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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:46 pm

Quoting holzmann (Reply 4):
Any idea why UAL chose AMS as a SkyTeam hub over FRA to fly their new bird?

FRA is slot restricted
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:48 pm

By chance I was driving along the A4 when she was about to land! The plane looks stunning even though it's a little stubby.
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:08 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
I assume this has everything to do with AMS being one of the first regular destinations for the UA 787's

Ding ding ding.

*A hubs mean nothing for these proving runs. The 787s will see regular service to IAH, EWR, SFO, LAX, ORD, DEN, NRT, AMS (among others) in the coming months. Incidentally, most of those cities have received or will receive 787 proving flights.

[Edited 2012-10-25 07:11:56]
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:13 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 3):
She's here! My first time up close with a 787. What a gorgeous bird!

Thaniks for the video. Very nice. The engines and the wings get to me.
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:36 pm

According to the October issue of Hemispheres, UA has to do 100 hours of non revenue proving runs with the 787. This is mandated by the FAA because they are the first U.S. operator. It may be that other U.S. carriers will not have to do as many proving runs once they get their A/C..
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:21 pm

Pictures of the arrival today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11121980/
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
Pictures of the arrival today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11121980/

Nice set of photos!
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:31 pm

What a beauty!!
Cor, that jetty hovers over the wing a bit close whilst parking doesn't it ??!!!
  
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:45 pm

Please pardon my ignorance, but when does United get their next 787's? It has been said 4 to 5 by the end of this year...that's is not very far away!

Also, since they are test flying this first 787 now, will they have to equally test the second frame, third and so on with the same rigor?
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:51 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 17):
Please pardon my ignorance, but when does United get their next 787's? It has been said 4 to 5 by the end of this year...that's is not very far away!

They should be getting their next one in a few days, and 2 in November and 2 in December if what was originally reported by them is correct.
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:28 pm

Love the plane, but still no fan of the UA/CO livery.
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:31 pm

To VC10er,

The proving runs are only for the first frame. They have to show the FAA that they have the competency to operate the 787 both in the air and on the ground.

(They could use their later frames if they chose to do so, as this is proving their ability with the aircraft type. I doubt that they will do that, as they want to get the 787 in revenue service ASAP.)
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:31 pm

Quoting CoachClass (Reply 19):
Love the plane, but still no fan of the UA/CO livery.

It just takes time, just like how we all hate Facebook when they update it, we eventually just get used to it like its normal.
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:14 am

Quoting seahawks7757 (Reply 21):

I'm not getting used to it. I will keep flying them nonetheless. I hated battleship for all the time it flew so I will have to grin and bear this one. The fact that the Borg planet has been on the tail since 1991 and didn't really like it that much then, I probably won't for the next 10. I'd like to see United become America's best airline, and perhaps if that happens it will sport a fresh image. IMHO.
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:17 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 18):

Wow, rapid fire aircraft delivery! I long for the day I see them at EWR, and even fly it more so!
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:17 am

Great photos! I got to see one at DCA. Nice bird, eh?
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:14 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 17):

Also, since they are test flying this first 787 now, will they have to equally test the second frame, third and so on with the same rigor?

No they will not need to fly it as much as 3904. 3904 is flying a lot so the FAA can certify the aircraft/certify United to handle the aircraft.
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:09 pm

I love the plane and love the livery.

When is the first scheduled flight, and what is the first route that flight will be?
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:59 pm

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 26):

United 1116 IAH-ORD on November 4th is the first flight
 
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:07 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 3):
She's here! My first time up close with a 787. What a gorgeous bird!

Nice video Martijn. Thanks for posting.

This aircraft would look so much better with the U - Tulip - on the tail instead of that fugly globe.

Also I am not enthused by their 3-3-3 seating arrangement in their whY class - even whY+.
Their "Business First" cabin arrangement does not appeal much to me either.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...United_Airlines_Boeing_787-800.php

That alone is a complete turnoff.

 Wow!   

Go compare that with the ANA birds especially their "Business Staggered" class.
They are the true Dream-liners!

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA/ANA_Boeing_787-800.php

  

[Edited 2012-10-27 06:10:41]
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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:41 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 8):
As long as that overwing jetway doesn't collapse on the wing, we're good.

Those of us onboard were eagerly watching the taxi-in as well. Parking "under" a jetway at other airports happens but with a brand new airplane, let's just say a few pics were taken of it from the inside, too!

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RE: United 787 Enroute IAH-AMS

Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:28 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 5):
5) Had cargo they could take

This is not a "for hire" flight, so no cargo. Again, this was a proving run.
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