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Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:39 pm

This is great news as the CEO Of QR announced that after ORD is added in April 2013, that ATL, BOS and DTW will be the next USA destinations and that it will add 15-16 destinations globally.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...2/10/24/qatar-airways-ceo/1655711/
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:43 pm

Wow surprising, given DTW and ATL as Skyteam hubs, and given QR's announcement into O.W. I'm assuming at DTW QR will fly into the North Terminal?
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:52 pm

QR had hinted at those routes and ORD shortly before DOH-ORD was announced. Didn't surprise me one bit.

Wouldn't be surprised if ATL and DTW are 787 routes to start - IMO, the only route of the three that can support a 77W from the start is BOS.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:00 pm

Quoting globalflyer (Thread starter):

This is great news as the CEO Of QR announced that after ORD is added in April 2013, that ATL, BOS and DTW will be the next USA destinations and that it will add 15-16 destinations globally.

The year 2013 was not specifically mentioned as the date for service beginning to these cities. In fact, a precise timetable for service was not provided other than "soon."
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:29 pm

Great news for Boston: it's the first M/E route for that airport and of course, with QR now being in oneworld, there'll be plenty of feed from AA there.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:33 pm

Great news!!!. But...

Quoting globalflyer (Thread starter):
that ATL, BOS and DTW

Wouldn't MIA make more sense than ATL since the O.W entrance? BOS and DTW will do great 4 sure.

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Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:43 pm

Does the B787 have the range to do the flight to ATL nonstop or will there be a fuel stop somewhere?
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:55 pm

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 6):
Does the B787 have the range to do the flight to ATL nonstop or will there be a fuel stop somewhere?

They would only do it nonstop; the 787's range is very long, so I don't think it would be any problem. Of course, it needs to be scheduled quite early in the morning, due to DOH's temperatures.
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:05 pm

So it would seem the Qatar and Emirates battle will start ramping up in Earnest. It seems the 787 is going to start changing the dynamics of the VHLA needs.
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:08 pm

Wow, in a few years when TK gets more of its own metal it is going to be a blood bath between QR and TK, since TK suggested it will open IAH next April followed by DTW, BOS, MIA. Even there was a mention of ATL.
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:09 pm

So one of the Mid-East carriers figured out that DTW is a great market for a Mid-East carrier?

About time.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:21 pm

I believe this topic was discussed earlier in the year.

But this is great news to see they are still committed to these cities, I love seeing QR grow, giving the other gulf carriers some competition. I'm not a huge fan of EK, I believe their product is overrated.
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:47 pm

Wow...I imagine these cities were picked by diktat rather than any market demand. Connecting the world's biggest hub to another hub w/ little local demand makes no sense. I could see how Al Baker sees the world's biggest hub and thinks "we need to fly there!" and DTW because "there are a lot of Middle Easterners there!", and BOS, well, who knows.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:34 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):


So one of the Mid-East carriers figured out that DTW is a great market for a Mid-East carrier?

About time.

Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

I'm surprised TK didn't beat QR to the punch.
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:36 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):

Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

I guess I don't view Royal Jordanian as being the sort of ME carrier that QR, EY, and EK to be.
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:39 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

   For example DTWBEY is 2000+ miles shorter via CDG than DOH. Even if AF/DL have higher costs than QR, they can charge the same as QR and make more/lose less.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):


I guess I don't view Royal Jordanian as being the sort of ME carrier that QR, EY, and EK to be.

Neither do I. But there is more to the Middle East than the Big Three. And of those QR got there first so props to them on that score.

[Edited 2012-10-26 15:23:17]
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:44 pm

Wow..have to say I didn't believe the rumors! Odd choices in my opinion but good luck to QR..ATL?? Really??! I'm sure DL/AF/KL will go into defensive mode and drop prices via CDG/AMS to the ME. I don't see them lasting too long
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:09 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 16):
But there is more to the Middle East than the Big Three.

Stuff and nonsense!  
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 15):
For example DTWBEY is 2000+ miles shorter via CDG than DOH. Even if AF/DL have higher costs than QR, they can charge the same as QR and make more/lose less.

How is RJA's India service? Huge subcontinental population in Detroit, too.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:19 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 9):
Wow, in a few years when TK gets more of its own metal it is going to be a blood bath between QR and TK, since TK suggested it will open IAH next April followed by DTW, BOS, MIA. Even there was a mention of ATL.

I don't know which are the most popular connections for TK/QR from the US, but I would say that they have each own its niche. TK's strengths from the US would be in Central Asia, Russia, "Far" Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Belarus), Western Africa, Levant and Saudi Arabia. QR's strengths would probably be the Indian subcontinent.

It is not the same as for TK/QR from Western Europe, where they compete for the huge Far Eastern traffic (and eventually for Australia whenever TK starts services there).

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):
Wow...I imagine these cities were picked by diktat rather than any market demand. Connecting the world's biggest hub to another hub w/ little local demand makes no sense. I could see how Al Baker sees the world's biggest hub and thinks "we need to fly there!" and DTW because "there are a lot of Middle Easterners there!", and BOS, well, who knows.

BOS is the wealthiest/largest urban area (along with MIA) in the US not served to date by any of the three Gulf carriers, so QR will likely take advantage of being the first (which I think usually doesn't work very well for them, because whenever EK enters in any market... EK usually becomes the largest operator among EK/EY/QR very quickly). There is a reasonably wealthy Indian community in the BOS area and also don't forget that there are +300,000 college/grad students in the region. And particularly, which is probably much more important that the Indian or Qatari student or researcher flying home twice a year on the cheapest ticket (well, maybe not the Qataris), there is a number of universities that generate a lot of additional premium or high-paying economy international traffic (lectures, conferences, seminars, research, etc.)

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

Exactly, it seems that everytime those topics come to the forum, someone has to explain that going to AMM/BEY/DAM from the US/Canada via DXB/DOH/AUH is non-sense.
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:34 pm

Many arabs and indians have funneled their money through DOH and DXB/AUH. You'll see Lebanese and Iranian nationals living in the USA with money over there. That's what fuels the demand to Dubai these days.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:05 am

Take IAD off the 77W and put that into ATL and stick it to DL. Make Dulles a 787. It would be insane to see Logan on the 77W for starting operations.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:15 am

still no plans for Qatar to fly to LAX? Its gonna be really good for BOS though, as QR is going to pick up some major traffic headed to the ME and the Indian subcontinent.

[Edited 2012-10-26 18:17:52]
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:30 am

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Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:43 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

It is not just the ME traffic. QR will definitely target India and the subcontinent. DL/KL/AF only fly to DEL, BOM and BLR in India. QR flies to other cities in India giving a convenient 1-stop option from DTW.

Quoting toobz (Reply 17):
I'm sure DL/AF/KL will go into defensive mode and drop prices via CDG/AMS to the ME. I don't see them lasting too long

QR will look to pull India traffic giving them the advantage of flying 1-stop to secondary Indian cities.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

Detroit has a large Yemeni population, also. It seems to be third in ME nationalities, behing Lebanese and Iraqis (Chaldeans).
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:33 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 4):
Great news for Boston: it's the first M/E route for that airport and of course, with QR now being in oneworld, there'll be plenty of feed from AA there.

I believe El Al served Boston at one point in the 1990s so that would have been the 1st M/E route for Logan.
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:06 am

Surprised that no gulf carrier has expressed any interest in serving MIA yet. I wonder what's keeping them from coming here? I suspect poor yields may have something to do with it, but who knows. I remember TK served south Florida about a decade ago but did not last long.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:14 am

Quoting cybergus (Reply 5):

Wouldn't MIA make more sense than ATL since the O.W entrance?

I'm with you on that one, but as we're always told by our fellow a.net members, "The airline knows better than you do!"
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:30 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 28):

Exactly which makes me believe that QR noticed that MIA is a poor yielding destination.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:35 am

Quoting cybergus (Reply 5):
Wouldn't MIA make more sense than ATL since the O.W entrance? BOS and DTW will do great 4 sure.

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You know? I would suggest BOTH MIA and ATL. They can pull it off. I think, as far as DTW goes, even though they are part of whatever alliance, QR metal needs to be on the DTW tarmac. Especially since the flights will probably N/S to Qatar. People are sick of connecting just to earn points. Well, at least I am. Glad to have TK at LAX now to.
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:18 am

I still want to know why QR is leaving LAX off its list. Is this because of lack of aircraft to make that trip? Surely QR can beat EK at its own game at LAX....
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:54 am

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 31):
Quoting caliatenza (Reply 31):

I still want to know why QR is leaving LAX off its list. Is this because of lack of aircraft to make that trip? Surely QR can beat EK at its own game at LAX....

I think LAX will follow soon after. They need to work on this first, but I'm sure QR will make it to LAX or SFO (which would be ok) very shortly after the other cities are implemented. Just watch and see.  
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:37 am

-DTW
-ORD
-ATL
-BOS

and then, also,

-BHX
-SGN-PHN
-more PER

also probably,

Tokyo flights
-SFO
-LAX
-MIA
-Maybe ACC

How many Widebody planes will they get from now to the end of 2013?? 777, 787 and 330. They need at least 20 to serve all this destinations.

The race with Turkish is awesome, between them they are opening more destinations every year than all the other airlines in the world together...  
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:04 pm

Quoting migair54 (Reply 33):
The race with Turkish is awesome

It is incredible but two different approaches;
TK has a huge domestic population/pax base (serves 35 domestic destinations). TK depends on transit traffic for only 25% of pax. Turkey is one of top 10 toursim destinations.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:52 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 19):
Exactly, it seems that everytime those topics come to the forum, someone has to explain that going to AMM/BEY/DAM from the US/Canada via DXB/DOH/AUH is non-sense.

As long as Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar sell attractively priced tickets to those destinations via their hubs (which they do--go to Emirates' website for example and try to buy a ticket from IAD to AMM), people will fly those routings, just like all the people who fly IAH to Vietnam via DME and SIN. Granted, they won't be high-yielding passengers, but airlines will price tickets to fill otherwise empty seats.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:28 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
So one of the Mid-East carriers figured out that DTW is a great market for a Mid-East carrier?

About time
Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

Most of Detroit area's Mideast population is Syrian, Lebonese, Palestinean, Iraqi (of course all countries that don't either have an airline or banned from flying to the U.S.). Flying to DOH would be quite a way out of the way to get back to a lot of their homelands - almost like flying to DEN from Europe and connecting back to DTW.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:59 pm

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 36):
Flying to DOH would be quite a way out of the way to get back to a lot of their homelands - almost like flying to DEN from Europe and connecting back to DTW.

Where on earth do you get that relationship from?

Let's take DEN-LHR, the closest European route to Detroit

DEN-LHR: 4,670 mi

LHR-DTW: 3,766 mi

Total: 8,436 mi

Nonstop DEN-DTW: 1,123

Miles flown out of the way: 7,313 mi (651% out of the way)

Now DTW-AMM

DTW-DOH: 6,973 mi

DOH-AMM: 1,045 mi

Total: 8,018 mi

Nonstop DTW-AMM: 6,055 mi (132% out of the way)

People fly out of the way all the time if the price is right, and most of these passengers are not high-yielding.

[Edited 2012-10-27 08:00:54]
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:04 pm

Quoting neveragain (Reply 35):
As long as Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar sell attractively priced tickets to those destinations via their hubs (which they do--go to Emirates' website for example and try to buy a ticket from IAD to AMM), people will fly those routings, just like all the people who fly IAH to Vietnam via DME and SIN. Granted, they won't be high-yielding passengers, but airlines will price tickets to fill otherwise empty seats.

First, the detour is very significant. DTW-DOH-BEY is 2000 nm longer that DTW-FRA-BEY... that is 4000 nm detour return. Or a JFK-LAX-JFK. That's a huge premium that the carrier should carry on themselves just to steal the most money conscious traveler.

I have flown myself a few times to Western Saudi Arabia / Levant and know a bunch people who regularly fly US-Saudi/Levant. No one flies via Gulf... they don't even consider it. Which is the reason? That contrary to what you have stated, in addition to the annoying detour, prices are not lower, and you have LOTS of options via Europe, so prices tend to be very competitive (lots of competition).

This is the same way why let's say a Europe-East Asia tends to be much cheaper than a US-East Asia... from Europe to Far East you can connect basically everywhere (Europe, Russia, Gulf, India). When you fly from the US to Beirut or Amman... you basically can connect (with good schedules/layovers) with BA, AF, LH, AZ or TK.

Just checked in ITA your IAD-AMM-IAD for January/February (any date, 5-12 days stay), and there are 10 options cheaper than Emirates and 12 cheaper than Qatar (Turkish, Austrian, United, Delta, Air France, Lufthansa, BA...). Substantially cheaper. Talking about, for instance $900 for United/LH with good layovers (less than 20h total travel time) VS $1200-$1400 for EK/QR for terrible schedules (shortest travel time for QR is 30 hours in one of the directions!). And that despite IAD is a new route for EK, so they would probably be willing to sell it cheaper to promote it.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 38):
I have flown myself a few times to Western Saudi Arabia / Levant and know a bunch people who regularly fly US-Saudi/Levant. No one flies via Gulf... they don't even consider it.

Ah, the "I know a lot of people who agree with me" defense. Hard to argue with that one. If QR needs to fill up seats on a DTW-DOH nonstop and the only people who are buying are headed to AMM, they most certainly will price tickets accordingly. Will it be a large percentage of the plane? Absolutely not. But to make the blanket statement that "nobody would do it because I don't think they would, and, BTW, a lot of people agree with me" does not change the fact that there are people who do so every day.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:14 pm

Quoting neveragain (Reply 39):

Again, you can check any route US-Europe-Levant VS US-Gulf-Levant that you wish... and see the prices. For instance, your IAD-AMM-IAD that now you seem to forget.

I am sure you may find some random US-Levant/Middle East route for some random date that is cheaper via Dubai/Doha/Abu Dhabi than via Europe but this is not the usual case, with the Gulf Carriers being substantially more expensive (not talking about the detour).

EK/QR/EY have flown for a while to the US, to a good number of destinations. They haven't "dumped" so far prices to attract the US-Levant traffic. For some reason that I yet don't understand, apparently QR will do it in their DTW-DOH-Levant, pricing out European competition. Interesting business case  Smile

End of discussion for me.

[Edited 2012-10-27 08:24:33]
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:32 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 40):
End of discussion for me.

Fair enough. Doesn't mean you're right.

If you have access to MIDT data, I encourage you to check how many people per day fly from IAH to SGN on SQ via DME and SIN. Or via any other out-of-the-way routing. If you look at the fares versus the much more convenient options, you'll understand why. Granted, there are not many people in this bucket, but to claim that they don't exist because you don't think they do is arrogant.

U.S. DoT international originating passenger is not for public release, but domestic is. How about the average daily number of originating passengers who flew SEA-BOS via IAH on CO? That's about as out of the way as you can get within the continental United States. Maybe you can look on kayak today and see that such routing isn't even offered, or if it is, there are much cheaper options via ORD or DEN. That doesn't mean that 2 weeks from now, or 3 months from now, it won't be the cheapest, and the cheapest by far.

Year/PPDEW

2005: 1.7 per day

2006: 1.0 per day

2007: 0.5 per day

2008: 0.8 per day

2009: 3.7 per day

2010: 4.1 per day

2011: 3.9 per day

The large variability between these numbers proves that airlines will price tickets to sell seats when they have to. Would they do it if they didn't have to? No, but they do. It's fundamental airline economics.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:39 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 2):

Wouldn't be surprised if ATL and DTW are 787 routes to start - IMO, the only route of the three that can support a 77W from the start is BOS.

There are no major differences between the 3, all are major US cities and metro areas, about 5M people each. BOS might be in a much more populous area overall, with a larger catchment area to potentially bring on more people, yet one quickly overlaps with NYC's zone of influence, and NYC is no short of airports and flights to anywhere on Earth.

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
Royal Jordanian is already @ DTW. And AMM is better situated for much of the connecting traffic than DOH is, given that a good deal of the ethnic ME population is from the Levant area, west of DOH.

Yeah, but there is no way RJ can compete with QR: much smaller network, much smaller hub airport. Yes it cuts down on flying time for most DTW mid-easterners, yet if that time is spent on the ground at AMM, or if fares can't match QR's fares, this becomes a moot point.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:11 pm

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 24):
It is not just the ME traffic. QR will definitely target India and the subcontinent. DL/KL/AF only fly to DEL, BOM and BLR in India. QR flies to other cities in India giving a convenient 1-stop option from DTW.

QR need to be careful and learn from EY's mistake over here. What is hampering EY I feel is the bottle neck situation it faces beyond AUH to India as all of its India flights are only operated daily using an A320 which can be easily filled up on its own by GCC stations. However unfortunately for EY, not only the GCC but also all of Europe and North America are competing for these seats hence there arent many left to grab. This will hurt EY out of IAD next year when it launches its new service there. There is hope at the end of the tunnel though for EY as apparently they have converted a few of their outstanding A320 orders to the larger A321s i.e. 6 to be exact. This in turn should add some needed capacity lift especially if it intends on configuring 2-3 of these A321s into a all Y class 220 seater layout meant for South India and CMB as it currently operates these routes today with a 162 seater all Y class A320.

QR too is sailing in a similar boat on a lot of its Indian bound flights especially BOM MAA HYD BLR TRV are all operated with a daily frequency only. There is a huge market to these cities and yes unlike EY, QR operate wide body aircraft to BOM and MAA but A321s to the others. Their EU, MENA and North America network i far bigger than EY's and shall continue to grow more with these 3 added routes. They need to launch a 2nd daily BOM flight departing DOH at around 0100 or 10am (preferably as its easier to obtain slots in BOM between 1300-1800) to ensure that sufficient access is available for their entire network which would not result in a bottle neck situation arising.

On another note, very surprising to see ATL on this list and not MIA/DFW especially since there is no hint of any relationship developing with Delta. Both MIA and DFW offer much larger O&D market sizes to GCC, Indian Subcontinent and Africa versus ATL + better connection possibilities with both airports being core AA hubs.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:34 pm

I would think DTW would be 77W because the area has the largest amount of Iraqis and folks from the Arab world/Middle East than any other city. Even some of the city signs are printed in English and Arab (forgive me I don't know the names of the different languages) Farsi?
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:20 pm

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 44):
I would think DTW would be 77W because the area has the largest amount of Iraqis and folks from the Arab world/Middle East than any other city. Even some of the city signs are printed in English and Arab (forgive me I don't know the names of the different languages) Farsi?

nopes DTW cant support a daily 335 seater B77W...way too big for this route...a daily 254 seater B787 is more than adequate to operate.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:30 pm

No one has mentioned that QR will have access to B6's sizable network at BOS.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:34 pm

Like any airline, I will believe it when it see it. Maxjet kept saying they were coming but never did, with QR at BOS it might be the same way. At least one of the Gulf Carriers will be here soon, though.
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:50 pm

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 31):
I still want to know why QR is leaving LAX off its list. Is this because of lack of aircraft to make that trip? Surely QR can beat EK at its own game at LAX....

It is not just EK at LAX. TK is also present there.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways To Add ATL/BOS/DTW In 2013

Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:19 pm

My apologies, NASCARAirforce, but I think I misunderstood your post, where you were suggesting a DTW passenger would not connect in DEN to get to Europe.

That said, I'm sure it happens. I was on a plane from IAH to YYC not too long ago and people were connecting to LHR. May not be as out of the way, but close.

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