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New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:28 am

Welcome to number 121 Part of the New Zealand Aviation Thread. In number 120 we talked about; New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 120 (by ZKOJH Oct 2 2012 in Civil Aviation)

* Bali services return next year
* NZ and 'STAR ALLIANCE' is it the right alliance?
* ZK-MVA first ATR 72-600 all ready to come home to New Zealand
* ATR 72-600 Routes
* Star Alliance changes for 'GOLD'
* Nelson Airport voted best airport in New Zealand
* ANZ A320 help in Sea Rescue Mission
* AKL-AMS on ''Grabaseat''
* NZ 'Nightrider' Fares drop to NZ$7 in the lead up to Xmas
* NZ third in 'Conde Nast Travelers list of best foreign airlines
* Gisborne Airport raise landing fees NZ reduce services
* WLG terminal upgrade cost 40 Million NZ$
* NZ and the new 'Hobbit 77W'
* Uzbekistan 763 in CHC along with an NZ 763!

''All set - lets go again!''
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:37 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Thread starter):
* ZK-MVA first ATR 72-600 all ready to come home to New Zealand

Does anyone know the exact routing of its delivery flight from France to New Zealand?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:48 am

and the price war has started !

''Jetstar offers 1c airfares''

That 10 cent coin in the back of your jeans could soon see you flying across the country and back.

Jetstar has launched a sale campaign across its domestic network this week with seats on sale for one cent each.
The airline is offering 600 1c airfares every weekday between 6pm and 7pm, with a total of 3000 seats on offer.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...etstar-offers-1c-airfares#comments
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:57 am

Night Rider Fares Slashed to $7 in the Lead up to Christmas

http://www.theflyingsocialnetwork.com/archives/5531

Wonder if this is a response to the latest Jetstar deal?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:07 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 3):
Night Rider Fares Slashed to $7 in the Lead up to Christmas

http://www.theflyingsocialnetwork.com/archives/5531

Wonder if this is a response to the latest Jetstar deal?

not when it was released 4 days ago!!!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:53 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Thread starter):
Star Alliance changes for 'GOLD'

Have the changes actually been announced?

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 3):

NZs night rider $7 fares were announced last week.

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 2):

Wonder if NZ will react? Obviously not expecting 1c fares tho!

SQ have purchased a 10% share in Virgin Australia, Virgin Oz have purchased a 65% share in Tiger Australia and Virgin Oz have offered a take over price of SkyWest Australia.

Tiger launching LCC NZL services soon with a DJ code?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:07 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 5):
Tiger launching LCC NZL services soon with a DJ code?

NZ would have to be in on this too, otherwise it would jeopardise the NZ/DJ partnership.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:22 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 3):
Night Rider Fares Slashed to $7 in the Lead up to Christmas

Right on cue for when business traffic starts to taper off for the year!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:41 am

Quoting CHCalfonzo (Reply 6):

Would NZ really have to be involved since DJ don't have a 100% stake?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:28 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 5):
Tiger launching LCC NZL services soon with a DJ code?

Apparently DJ has realised that you can't be a LCC and a full service carrier at the same time, which is what something NZ has been chasing to become.
 
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Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:46 am

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 9):
Apparently DJ has realised that you can't be a LCC and a full service carrier at the same time, which is what something NZ has been chasing to become.

Air New Zealand is profitable, so I don't know why it can't work.

Virgin Australia has (effectively) bought an undercutting competitor, based on a simple, time honoured theory - if you can't beat 'em, buy 'em.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:58 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 5):
Tiger launching LCC NZL services soon with a DJ code?

Probably not. The deal may mean that DJ can block Tiger's entry into NZL and Pacific.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:42 am

Quoting cchan (Reply 11):

Or DJ could use TT to their advantage like QF with JQ. Use TT for routes DJ can't operate with a good profit on due to TT's lower costs (HLZ), launch LCC leisure routes (OOL) and heck.........we might even see TT on..........domestic routes here if DJ wanted.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:38 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 12):
we might even see TT on..........domestic routes here if DJ wanted.


And giving the bird to NZ in the process. Like I alluded before, DJ would only allow this if NZ was onside, otherwise they would loose NZ as a partner. NZ is perfectly capable of combating JQ on their own, there is no need for a dedicated "low cost" airline to supplement NZ services.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:50 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 12):
Or DJ could use TT to their advantage like QF with JQ. Use TT for routes DJ can't operate with a good profit on due to TT's lower costs (HLZ), launch LCC leisure routes (OOL) and heck..

Several posters on the other thread have referred to Tiger's lower costs, but I wonder how much lower they actually are.

Yes, it has a newer staff (lower pay?) but it doesn't have economies of scale on the fleet and it pays the same fuel costs as everyone else, and airport costs since since it left Avalon.

The only accounts I can find are for the Tiger group and the CASK number is not particularly low. I assume the Australian costs are higher than the system average. Additionally, the CASK went up by 12% in the last year.

It's possible the Tiger parent in Singapore is quite pleased to have someone else take over what has been a problem airline.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:10 pm

On the Nightrider front, have just heard an interesting yarn from a friend I used to work with in the advertising industry...

We all know the incumbent NZ CEO is the face for the Nightrider campaign. Well apparently The Hoff, David Hasselhoff, the original Nightrider, was the intended face of the campaign. However, on his way to shoot the commercial he got so loaded on the flight, mixing booze with prescription meds, that he was unable to meet his commitments to the airline (by all accounts was a blithering mess, see youtube of him and his daughter for reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jGDc-v_Nms).

NZ's advertising agency had already booked the media and the production company was waiting for talent; the airline had completed planning and back-end booking systems for Nightrider so NZ went into emergency strategy with the new face being the 'recently single' Rob Fyfe who was on-hand for the commercial shoot.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:42 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 14):
Several posters on the other thread have referred to Tiger's lower costs, but I wonder how much lower they actually are.

There are so many hoops to jump through for any business in NZ of course they are not going to be lower cost than JQ. Especially for a tiny market like NZL. VA already tried and failed, and even Jetstar have not been able to expand as planned. It is hard to have lower costs when there are not enough people to fill the aircraft that are flying.

Quoting mariner (Reply 14):
It's possible the Tiger parent in Singapore is quite pleased to have someone else take over what has been a problem airline.

I agree. I think SQ is glad to be rid. They have other risks like Scoot to offset.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:17 am

Will be interesting to see what the flight plan is for NZ39 ( or is it NZ35) on Nov. 1st for the HKG-LHR section.Apparently the 77W might be technical restricted from flying on the Y1 airway across China that the 77E is able to use
Possibly it might look more like a CX 77W flight plan for that sector.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:52 am

Quoting je89_w (Reply 1):
Quoting ZKOJH (Thread starter):
* ZK-MVA first ATR 72-600 all ready to come home to New Zealand

Does anyone know the exact routing of its delivery flight from France to New Zealand?

Don't know exactly but from memory previous ATR deliveries were mostly two sectors a day, sometimes one, and ended SIN-DPS-DRW, DRW-BNE-CHC.

Will the ATR72-600's be fitted with ADS-B?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:47 am

Around 13hrs to go to the world see's the new NZ Safety Video for the 'Hobbit' and from the the small clip already out it looks FANTASTIC!

http://www.theflyingsocialnetwork.com/archives/5571
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:04 am

Anything would be better than the current safety video. Rico was better.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:27 am

I wonder which safety video they will play on NZ35 1 Nov.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 19):
Around 13hrs to go to the world see's the new NZ Safety Video for the 'Hobbit' and from the the small clip already out it looks FANTASTIC!

http://www.theflyingsocialnetwork.co.../5571

I'm not particularly fond of the souped up safety videos, but I think this one is very good. It certainly held my attention.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 22):
I'm not particularly fond of the souped up safety videos, but I think this one is very good. It certainly held my attention.

I totally agree. Just the right mix of kiwi humor in this one!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:21 pm

the new video is rather gripping - probably more so than the actual movies will be :-P Best of them by a long way - but then WETA workshop did create it...

Yes I'm sure you can expect the new briefing tonight on NZ35..
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:41 am

Quoting PA515 (Reply 18):
Will the ATR72-600's be fitted with ADS-B?

ZK-MVA has ADS-B and showed up on flightradar24.com as 'ZKMVA', not as an Air NZ Flight Number.

It departed TLS 31 Oct at about 0958 UTC and after exactly five hours was between Crete and Egypt heading for ALY when the signal went out of range. Looks like an overnight in CAI which would be about a 6hr 30m flight.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:09 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 24):
Yes I'm sure you can expect the new briefing tonight on NZ35..

Or maybe the crazy about rugby one, as the front of the plane is filled by the All Blacks?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:55 am

The video is out now.... actually a few hours ago. Quite good, has a few laughs etc and a cameo from SPJ.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:15 am

From an email I received at work.

"CZ305 and 306 10&14 Dec will be operated by an A380. Arrival and departure will remain the same."
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:31 am

Quoting haggis73 (Reply 28):

Interesting to see what they do.. Would they be able to offload the CZ A380 at one Gates 15/16 before moving it to a remote and bringing back EK407 to the gate while not causing any delays? Or would they take a remote stand/the single airbridge gate?
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:00 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 29):
Interesting to see what they do.. Would they be able to offload the CZ A380 at one Gates 15/16 before moving it to a remote and bringing back EK407 to the gate while not causing any delays? Or would they take a remote stand/the single airbridge gate?

Time for AKL to upgrade a gate to have dual airbridges. Gate 6,8,10? Whichever one has the biggest box space to the next gate with clearance behind. Speaking of, most of the airbridges at AKL are in pretty poor condition these days! (Inside they look ok but they are rusting away and are very slow (delaying disembarkation). Most of them have got to be 30 years old which coupled with salt air and high levels of rainfall shorten their life.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:25 am

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/new-ze...Air-NZ-plans-Mt-Cook-service-trial

In todays Dominion Post, the article was slightly different, whats not talked about in the above link is the All Blacks ATR first route.......CHC-WLG early this month!

Anyone know the flight/date?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:46 am

''Crash pilots ignored cockpit warning alerts - report''

Findings in an inquiry into an Air Nelson plane that skidded along a runway on its nose landing gear doors have been dismissed by the airline, which says the incident was due to inaccurate advice from the plane's manufacturer rather than the pilots.

The Transport Accident Investigation Commission (TAIC) has found the pilots of a Bombardier Dash 8 ignored two warnings that the landing gear was unsafe as it came in to land at Blenheim on September 30, 2010.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10844375
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:29 am

The Fokker F27 that operated between WLG - Chatham Islands years ago made its final journey back to the Chathams this morning from Timaru by boat. NZ have donated it to the Islands aviation museum.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7893...-flight-plain-sailing-for-old-bird
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:24 am

ANZ Halloween 'Grabaseat' name turns offensive

''Mayor wants apology over 'offensive' Halloween joke''

The mayor of Blenheim wants Air New Zealand to apologise for an "offensive" Halloween joke.

The airline got into the Halloween spirit on its Grabaseat site today by renaming destinations in line with the theme of the day.

Auckland became Spookland, Christchurch is Witchchurch, Rotorua is Rottingrua, and Wellington is Spellington on the low-fare site.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/mayo...r-offensive-halloween-joke-5178710
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 34):
The mayor of Blenheim wants Air New Zealand to apologise for an "offensive" Halloween joke.

Apologise to who and for what? Ridiculous in my opinion. Gallows humour is perfect on Hallowe'en. Beastheim indeed.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:44 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 25):
ZK-MVA has ADS-B and showed up on flightradar24.com as 'ZKMVA', not as an Air NZ Flight Number.

It departed TLS 31 Oct at about 0958 UTC and after exactly five hours was between Crete and Egypt heading for ALY when the signal went out of range. Looks like an overnight in CAI which would be about a 6hr 30m flight.

PA515

First leg was filed as LFBO-HELX (Luxor). Flight was indeed on registration, with NZM in item 18 as operator.
It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the routing is (unfortunately I can only view flightplans that operate in the Eurocontrol area).

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:20 pm

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 36):
First leg was filed as LFBO-HELX (Luxor). Flight was indeed on registration, with NZM in item 18 as operator.
It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the routing is (unfortunately I can only view flightplans that operate in the Eurocontrol area).

Thanks Yorden.
'ZKMVA' appeared on flightradar24.com NW of RUH at 0940UTC and 25,000 ft, tracked east to just north of BAH then southeast over AUH and at 1235UTC went out of signal range at 22,550 ft about 100 kms from MCT. Next stop CMB?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:14 pm

Yesterday a New Zealand aviation website gave the delivery routing for ZK-MVA as Toulouse, Luxor, Muscat, Colombo, Singapore/Seletar, Darwin, Brisbane, Christchurch, arriving 06 November.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:40 pm

Indeed the routing is a 6 day journey through Luxor, Muscat, Columbo, Singapore, Bali, Darwin and Brisbane. Here are some more pics, interior looks great!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:50 pm

Quoting bonzolab (Reply 39):

Looking great! Now if someone could post a schedule for its first week in operation...  
Can't wait to try it out!
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:18 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 40):
Looking great! Now if someone could post a schedule for its first week in operation...

I looked tday. Mount Cook ops no doubt have some plan but nothing showing in the general system for others in the business to see yet.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:47 am

ZK-MVA is currently scheduled as follows:

Thurs 15th Nov

CHC-DUD NZ5051
DUD-CHC NZ5052
CHC-ROT NZ5378
ROT-CHC NZ5379
CHC-DUD NZ5099

Fri 16th Nov

DUD-CHC NZ5012
CHC-PMR NZ5352
PMR-CHC NZ5357
CHC-ROT NZ5378
ROT-CHC NZ5379
CHC-DUD NZ5023
DUD-CHC NZ5356

Sat 17th Nov

CHC-WLG NZ5068
WLG-DUD NZ5049
DUD-WLG NZ5036
WLG-CHC NZ5313
CHC-PMR NZ5346
PMR-AKL NZ5076
AKL-PMR NZ5077

This is sourced from AirOps so sorry, no link available. Should give everyone a chance to see it over these few days.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:21 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 42):

Thanks, any chance of you posting Sunday's schedule?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:39 am

And the battle between Air New Zealand and Jetstar heat up even more;

''Air NZ offers free flights to Christchurch''

Air New Zealand is offering free flights to Christchurch as the battle for the cheapest airfares reaches its nadir.

The move comes just days after Jetstar offered one-cent flights every day this week - a deal which came hot on the heels of Air NZ's offer of $7 tickets between Auckland and Wellington on late night flights in the week before Christmas.

Air NZ said 1500 free one-way airfares into and out of Christchurch would be available to customers travelling between November 12 and December 2.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10844613
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:13 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 44):

So NZ moaned about JQ copying their initial promo, but now NZ is basically copying JQ! What gives?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:40 am

Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 35):

Totally agree, Beasthem should just get over it and move on. Its them who are bringing back a past which they would rather forget about!

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 45):

Competition  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:51 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 17):
Will be interesting to see what the flight plan is for NZ39 ( or is it NZ35) on Nov. 1st for the HKG-LHR section.Apparently the 77W might be technical restricted from flying on the Y1 airway across China that the 77E is able to use
Possibly it might look more like a CX 77W flight plan for that sector.

ANZ35 showed up on flightradar24.com just south of between Almaty and Bishkek. At 0628UTC it was heading 295 at 32,000ft and 490kt. At 0634UTC about 20 kms north of Bishkek and about to cross into Kazakhstan. There won't be much coverage in Kazakhstan, but Russia is almost 100% covered from the Kazakhstan border to the rest of Europe.

ANZ35 will probably reappear near Uralsk.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:04 am

it seems that NZ have got it right with the new 'Hobbit' Safety film

Even Sky News in London picked it up this morning,

''A four-minute-long Air New Zealand safety video celebrating the upcoming premiere of the first film in the Hobbit trilogy has gone viral within 24 hours of being posted on YouTube.

The in-flight video – which features the character Gollum and the film director Sir Peter Jackson - has received more than two million hits.

http://news.sky.com/story/1005945/ai...obbit-safety-film-an-overnight-hit

let's hope that will get bums on seats down under!

(but on 'YouTube' 335 people dislike it!)
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 121

Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:25 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 47):
Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 17):
Will be interesting to see what the flight plan is for NZ39 ( or is it NZ35) on Nov. 1st for the HKG-LHR section.Apparently the 77W might be technical restricted from flying on the Y1 airway across China that the 77E is able to use
Possibly it might look more like a CX 77W flight plan for that sector.

ANZ35 showed up on flightradar24.com just south of between Almaty and Bishkek. At 0628UTC it was heading 295 at 32,000ft and 490kt. At 0634UTC about 20 kms north of Bishkek and about to cross into Kazakhstan. There won't be much coverage in Kazakhstan, but Russia is almost 100% covered from the Kazakhstan border to the rest of Europe.

ANZ35 will probably reappear near Uralsk.

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Doesn't look like there were any restrictions on the routing, although there was a notable difference when compared to other B77W routings on the same day.

Filed flightplan for ANZ35 was:
N0500F256 BEKOL/K0927S0780 A461 YIN G586 NODOG/K0926S0840 G586 QP B330 IDSEG/K0916S0920 B330 JTG/K0905S0950 B330 OMBON/K0901S0920 Y1 MAGOD/K0893S0980 Y1 SADAN L888 KCA A468 KAMUD/K0893F320 B357 MNS A355 NT A113 SUBOL/K0887F340 A113 AKB G3 FV R11 OPOKA/N0478F340 M869 LEP M864 KOLJA/N0484F360 M864 GIROR L983 CDA M611 DEGUL UN872 PAM UL980 LOGAN

Enroute alternates were: ZLLL (Lanzhou); ZWWW (Urumqi); UAKK (Karaganda); EPWA (Warsaw).

Track looked like this:

ANZ35 VHHH-EGLL 121102


The two Cathay flights (CPA253/CPA251) and the one BA flight (BAW28) operated with B77Ws all took a more northerly option (here compared with the ANZ35. The BAW28 took a more southerly initial routing upon entering Russian airspace):

B77W Routings VHHH-EGLL 121102


Hopefully its of interest.

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