BruceSmith
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1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:01 pm

The South African low cost operator 1Time has filed for liquidation on Friday and has grounded all flights. This came after months of business rescue negotiations. No more bright red craft in our southern skies.

More details at http://ewn.co.za/2012/11/02/1time
 
lostsound
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:17 pm

RIP 1 Time!

This is around the 44th airline to disappear this year.

For anyone who's interested, here is a list of airlines/brands
that are now history in 2012.

1. Cirrus Air - January 2012
2. Spanair - January 2012
3. Air Zimbabwe - January 2012
4. Mesaba Airlines - January 2012
5. Czech Connect Airlines - January 2012
6. USA3000 - January 2012
7. Air Australia - February 2012
8. VarigLOG (Varig Logística S.A.) - February 2012
9. Malév Hungarian Airlines - February 2012
10. Aeroperlas (Aerolíneas Islas de Las Perlas) - February 2012
11. Continental Airlines - March 2012
12. Norfolk Airlines - March 2012
13. JetLite - March 2012
14. AirTran Airways - March 2012
15. DirectAir - March 2012
16. Redjet - March 2012
17. GMG - March 2012
18. Velvet Sky - March 2012
19. Pinnancle Airlines - April 2012
20. KentuckySkies - April 2012
21. TennesseeSkies - April 2012
22. Aerosur - May 2012
23. Mint Airways - May 2012
24. Cimber Sterling - May 2012
25. Skyways Express - May 2012
26. City Airline - May 2012
27. Air Finland - June 2012
28. PLUNA Líneas Aéreas Uruguayas S.A. - July 2012
29. AeroGal - July 2012
30. OLT Express Poland - July 2012
31. BETA Cargo - July 2012
32. Sol del Paraguay - August 2012
33. Windjet - August 2012
34. Jett8 Airlines/ Jett8 Cargo - August 2012
35. Comair (USA) - Sptember 2012
36. BMI baby - September 2012
37. Contact Air - September 201
38. Nigerial Airways - September 2012
39. Colgan Air - September 2012
40. BMI British Midland International - October 2012
41. Kingfisher Airlines - October 2012
42. Kingfisher Xpress - October 2012
43. Hello Airlines - October 2012
44. 1Time - November 2012
 
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:40 pm

Quote:
36. BMI baby - September 2012
40. BMI British Midland International - October 2012
bmibaby
bmi British Midland International
 
thegoldenargosy
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
19. Pinnancle Airlines - April 2012

Pinnacle is still flying.

Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
14. AirTran Airways - March 2012

AirTran, though now owned by Southwest, is still flying as well
 
lostsound
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:46 pm

Quoting tcx69k (Reply 2):
Quoting thegoldenargosy (Reply 3):

Copied and pasted from Diecast Aircraft Forum.
Excuse any mistakes!

[Edited 2012-11-02 10:46:35]
 
Shudu
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:14 pm

This was very sad news but kind of expected. Apparently 1Time where optimistic for a white horse investor to come on board and rescue the airline, but this did not happen so they decided to pull the plug.

Comair chief executive Erik Venter said 10 out of 11 private airlines launched in South Africa since the industry was deregulated in 1991 had failed. "Due to the less efficient fleet it operated, the ultimate closure of 1Time was inevitable," he said in a statement

I guess now with only Comair and SAA in the market we can expect prices to sky rocket.
 
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting Shudu (Reply 5):
Comair chief executive Erik Venter said 10 out of 11 private airlines launched in South Africa since the industry was deregulated in 1991 had failed. "Due to the less efficient fleet it operated, the ultimate closure of 1Time was inevitable," he said in a statement
Quoting Shudu (Reply 5):
I guess now with only Comair and SAA in the market we can expect prices to sky rocket.

What about Kulula? (albeit a brand of Comair),
What about Mango?

I must admit I avoided 1Time when I was last in SA. They had a bad rep and the metal was oooolllldddddddddd although according to Airfleets they'd got rid of the MD-80s and were flying 737s (with an average fleet age of 17 years).

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andrefranca
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:59 pm

Sad, indeed! wish the best for their employees!
 
capri
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:31 pm

lots and lots of free pilots out there, getting an airline job will get tougher
 
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:39 am

Quoting Shudu (Reply 5):
This was very sad news but kind of expected. Apparently 1Time where optimistic for a white horse investor to come on board and rescue the airline, but this did not happen so they decided to pull the plug.

Quite frankly, that was one of the airlines that I would never have flown. It seemed like was in the same league as that Thai MD-80 airline. I was booking an internal flight in South Africa and looked at 1Time and just didn't get a good vibe about them - very low budget airline using older equipment. Mango Air was my choice.
 
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:28 am

They lasted quite a while though and were not exactly a flash in the pan like Velvet Sky, I was in JNB in 2005 and they had been going a year or two then. They had DC9-32's at that point, was great to see them alongside the Nationwide 727.
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:22 am

Very sad to hear. I really liked their scheme.
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:27 am

Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
For anyone who's interested, here is a list of airlines/brands
that are now history in 2012.

Thank you. It has not been a great year for airline durability...  
Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
41. Kingfisher Airlines - October 2012

They are effectively done, but not yet officially done. The ref is still counting...

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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:43 am

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 6):
What about Mango?

Part of the SAA group.

Overall, South Africa has always appeared to be a market with too much competition for a very limited domestic route network. 2 carriers with dual brand strategies (also the same that is occurring in Australia currently), is likely the best we can hope for in this challenging industry.
 
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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:29 am

Aeroperlas and AeroGal are flying under the AV and TA brands.

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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:20 am

That's a real shame, I loved their planes when I visited SA a few years ago.

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RE: 1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down

Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:00 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Quite frankly, that was one of the airlines that I would never have flown. It seemed like was in the same league as that Thai MD-80 airline. I was booking an internal flight in South Africa and looked at 1Time and just didn't get a good vibe about them - very low budget airline using older equipment. Mango Air was my choice.

What an uneducated comment to make. 1Time were a great airline. They had the best on time performance of any airline in South Africa. They offered - by far - the best hard product amongst the LCC here. They were extremely popular with the small and medium businessmen. I am very sad to see them go. In contrast - Mango, along with parent SAA - have not been able to turn a profit for years now. They rely on government handouts to stay in the air (close to $4 billion over the last 18 years), and use economic terrorism to flush out the competition. The demise of 1time is more indicative of how screwed the political system is in SA more than anything else.
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