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Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:34 am

Thai startup U airlines, which are currently operating a single A320 and have a second on the way, are looking to expand rapidly and by the end of the next year have 18 planes in their fleet including an A380!

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/...028/u-airlines-reaches-for-the-sky


I wonder who would lease them an A380 at that short notice, perhaps Airbus themselvves with MSN002 as that order looks in jeopardy now or Air Austral who can't afford the two that they've ordered?

This all sounds a bit bonkers to me but an A380 in that orange livery would be some sight 
 
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:35 pm

The last carrier that had a "Big Orange" in its fleet did not survive the expansion.

They should make a U turn and think expansion over.
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:26 am

I would first say that it would most probably be best to see if they even manage to really launch domestic scheduled flights to compete with all of the other carriers in the market place. They have said they first want to launch flights to Chiang Mai and Phuket.

To CNX, Thai Airways has 11 daily flights, Thai AirAsia 9, Bangkok Airways 6, Nok Air 6 and Orient Thai 2.
To HKT, Thai Airways has 9 daily flights, Thai AirAsia 9, Bangkok Airways 7, Nok Air 2 and Orient Thai 2.

There is absolutely zero need for additional capacity and on the Phuket route for example, Nok Air already had to cut quite a bit of capacity, yet totally irrational start-ups like Thai Regional Airlines felt there was a need to put another 9-10 daily A320 flights in the market using amateurish sales techniques (fixed price model at way too low prices including 40 kg of baggage etc.) and now U Airlines wants to join the party.

I think despite the latest tourism boom in Thailand there is a bit of a bubble in the airline sector now with all of these start-ups and expansion plans recently. Since I live there part of my time, I have covered that quite extensively on my website in a very fair manner, but I do not think any of the plans below will work out anywhere close to what is stated in public:
U Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...stic-scheduled-flights-in-thailand
Mastertech Aviation: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...i-domestic-flights-from-udon-thani
Thai Regional Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...plans-a320-200-domestic-operations
Kan Air: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...-pangan-island-add-bigger-aircraft
R Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...-200er-for-bangkok-frankfurt-route
Legacy Air: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...up-legacy-air-adds-first-saab-340a
Chaba Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...akes-delivery-of-ex-lufthansa-a340
City Airways: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...ched-by-thai-start-up-city-airways

These are just the last couple of months. I do not quite believe we will see much of that really happening for an extended period of time.

One small anecdote is that the founder of U Airlines named his first aircraft after himself, so I guess it also is a little bit of "I Airlines" than just all about "you"  .

[Edited 2012-11-07 18:32:22]
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:44 am

They will get it the same place they got their pony from last Christmas.
 
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:47 am

Now that is quite the ambitious plan. Let's say they could get their hands on an A380 tomorrow. How the heck do they plan on filling it when they were basically put together overnight? Something tells me if some major airlines are having trouble filling widebodies these guys don't stand a chance....
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:16 am

Nuts!!! Why get an A380? What routes?
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:41 am

Quoting scouseflyer (Thread starter):
I wonder who would lease them an A380 at that short notice?

TG?   
 
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:08 am

They're in a phase now where they need to sweet talk a lot of people into lending them money.

Throwing the word 'A380' into an investment pitch is bound to gather attention...
They'll be lucky to make it through next year, let alone profitably operating widebodies.

All the best, though. Gotta love optimism.
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:15 am

Quoting francoflier (Reply 7):
Throwing the word 'A380' into an investment pitch is bound to gather attention...

it rather tells each serious analyst or risk manager to throw them out of the office.
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:23 am

Maybe they could get one on the cheap from China Southern, if they are having trouble finding a use for them   
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RE: Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:02 am

Sounds like another Phuket Air in the making.....