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Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:49 pm

Are any of Ryanairs 738's being delivered with the Sky Interior?
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:53 pm

Quoting ei737ng (Thread starter):
Are any of Ryanairs 738's being delivered with the Sky Interior?

No.
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:41 pm

No, their have their individual grayhound interior.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:54 pm

Quoting ei737ng (Thread starter):
Are any of Ryanairs 738's being delivered with the Sky Interior?

If it makes my ticket more expensive I don't hope so..  
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:46 am

Quoting ei737ng (Thread starter):

Are any of Ryanairs 738's being delivered with the Sky Interior?

As it's a paid option on the NG, I think not.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:52 am

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 2):
No, their have their individual grayhound interior.

LOL!

Like buying a base model car.

No AC, base manual transmission, AM/FM radio, manual windows and locks, no metallic paint, etc.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 3):
If it makes my ticket more expensive I don't hope so..

Why would it make it more expensive? did they make it expensive when they fitted winglets? or when they covered up the little cockpit windows at the top?

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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:59 am

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 5):
Why would it make it more expensive? did they make it expensive when they fitted winglets? or when they covered up the little cockpit windows at the top?

Both of those things save money.
A fancy interior does not.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:00 am

Why would it make it more expensive? did they make it expensive when they fitted winglets? or when they covered up the little cockpit windows at the top?

They are differences which save the airline money and have a direct fuel saving result. Installing an aesthetically pleasing cabin is an unnessasary expense for an airline like Ryanair. People fly them because they are very cheap- they don't offer any thrills and people don't expect them onboard.
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:12 am

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 6):
Both of those things save money.
A fancy interior does not.

And also maintains their value when in the future the aircraft are sold/returned to the lessor as a set with standard interiors across the group of aircraft.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:14 am

Quoting raffik (Reply 7):
They are differences which save the airline money and have a direct fuel saving result. Installing an aesthetically pleasing cabin is an unnessasary expense for an airline like Ryanair. People fly them because they are very cheap- they don't offer any thrills and people don't expect them onboard.

Plus if you give passengers a positive experience, they'll just return with higher expectations... No thrills.

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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:15 am

Another was to say money http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/avia...e-pointless-says-Ryanair-boss.html

"Seatbelts on aeroplanes are pointless and will not save passengers in a crash, the chief executive of Ryanair has said, as he attempts to make “standing room only” cabins a reality. "
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:23 am

I would disagree with his opinions on wearing seatbelts if the recent 727 crash experiment was anything to go on.

Could only be Michael O Leary who would put profit before passenger safety. I didn't think flying Ryanair could get any more uncomfortable and public transport like. But standing for an entire flight? No thanks!
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:13 am

Quoting vaus77w (Reply 4):
As it's a paid option on the NG, I think not.

I thought he Sky Interior was standard for all new 737NGs...
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:25 pm

Re Reply 10. Now you know we have had these discussions before!   Michael is a fantastic publicist. Advertising is very expensive and he hets his publicity for free. No you have not seen paid for toilets - or standing room -nor will you see no seat belts - or single pilot planes etc etc etc.

BTW He is of course right about seat belts and crashes.The belt (in these circumstances) is to keep each body on the correct seat for later identification. However in severe turbulence (like over alps - Mr O leary?) it could save your life.

Anyway us just writing about it is what he wants!

All his statements are to give the impression of ultra cheep - he is not!!! He has a near monopoly on many routes and his fares are far from cheap - thats what the report and accounts show - increased revenue from increased prices.

Don't watch what he says watch what he does.Like upgrading (for a cost) to numbered seating to try and cream off some business pax. Thats what he is 'really' doing. None of the silly stuff above.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 12):

It's standard on the MAX I believe but not the NG...
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:43 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 12):

I thought he Sky Interior was standard for all new 737NGs...

It's standard if a new customer comes in and orders a 737NG. Existing customers can choose between Sky Interior or the classic interior.

Boeing doesn't do things for free, so they likely charge more, but the sky interior weighs less and the pivot bins should require less maintenance, so it should have a positive effect on the bottom line.
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting parapente (Reply 13):
his fares are far from cheap

Come now. Ryanair's average one-way fare - including ancillaries - was €57.92 in its latest (2012) FY results ((€3,504.0m scheduled revenues + €886.2m ancillaries)/75.8m passengers), and its average sector length was around 1,200km. While those two variables are averages, I don't really see how that's "far from cheap". Source: its 2012 annual report.
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:45 pm

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 5):
Like buying a base model car.

No AC, base manual transmission, AM/FM radio, manual windows and locks, no metallic paint, etc.

And working without software crashes every few days...
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:21 pm

Off topic here but can any of the 737NG airplanes that have been around within the last 7-12 years be modified to the new SkyInterior? (IE: Take N607AS and put the SkyInterior in it.)
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:59 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 7):
They are differences which save the airline money and have a direct fuel saving result. Installing an aesthetically pleasing cabin is an unnessasary expense for an airline like Ryanair. People fly them because they are very cheap- they don't offer any thrills and people don't expect them onboard.

I'm sure pax wont notice it anyway.. We eat, sleep, read a book or look outside.. why look at a ceiling or a wall?
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:36 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
Off topic here but can any of the 737NG airplanes that have been around within the last 7-12 years be modified to the new SkyInterior? (IE: Take N607AS and put the SkyInterior in it.)

No. Boeing does not offer a retrofit option. If an airline wants to put pivot bins on an older 737NG, they'll have to go to an aftermarket provider to do it.
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:17 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 20):
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
Off topic here but can any of the 737NG airplanes that have been around within the last 7-12 years be modified to the new SkyInterior? (IE: Take N607AS and put the SkyInterior in it.)

No. Boeing does not offer a retrofit option. If an airline wants to put pivot bins on an older 737NG, they'll have to go to an aftermarket provider to do it.

Exactly. Heath Tecna does a Sky Interior look-alike retrofit, with pivot bins and coloured LED lighting.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:29 am

Quoting BA777 (Reply 8):

And also maintains their value when in the future the aircraft are sold/returned to the lessor as a set with standard interiors across the group of aircraft.

Although it must be said that Ryanair has taken this mantra to extremes as they have also done away with stuff like window blinds, reclining seats etc. This is something most airlines buying second hand planes expect and have to retrofit at extra cost (not sure about the window blinds - can they be retrofitted without replacing the whole interior wall elements?)

[Edited 2012-11-09 02:29:38]
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:34 am

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 22):
Although it must be said that Ryanair has taken this mantra to extremes as they have also done away with stuff like window blinds, reclining seats etc.

FR still has window blinds, at least on my last two flights in and out of Budapest. I remeber because a kid was nonstop playing with it.
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:54 am

Haven't they gone through with this plan...

Ryanair To Cut Reclining Seats, Window Blinds..... (by Singapore_Air Feb 15 2004 in Civil Aviation)

or were you on an older plane?
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:55 am

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 24):
Haven't they gone through with this plan...

I've always had window blinds on my flights with FR.
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RE: Ryanair And The 738 Sky Interior?

Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:36 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 23):
FR still has window blinds, at least on my last two flights in and out of Budapest. I remeber because a kid was nonstop playing with it.

Does Boeing even offer a "no window shades" option on 737? If so, what carriers have ordered it?