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Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:23 am

Norwegian presented their New long haul concept and product at a press conference in Oslo today.
the routes are now open for booking on Norwegian.no/.com

Norwegian will present even more destinations this winter.

According to the rumors, candidates are

OSL/ARN- Rio de Janeiro
OSL/ARN- Kuala Lumpur
OSL/ARN- Miami
OSL/ARN- Seoul

Press release:

Today Norwegian will commence the ticket sales for its long-haul flights to New York and Bangkok from Oslo and Stockholm. The company's first long-haul flight will take place between Oslo and New York on May 30, 2013; the first flight between Oslo and Bangkok is on June 1, 2013.

“This is a major milestone in our company’s history and I am very pleased that it is now possible to book tickets to our flights to New York and Bangkok. We look forward to welcoming our passengers on board the brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliner, the most modern and technologically advanced long-haul aircraft in production today,” said CEO Bjørn Kjos.

“Freedom of choice is an important part of Norwegian's business philosophy – also on the intercontinental routes. As we know that travelers have a greater need for ‘that little extra’ on longer flights, we will give those who want the option to order a product which includes larger seats, more leg room, a three-course meal with drinks and checked baggage,” said Kjos. With departures from Bangkok and New York from both Oslo and Stockholm, it is possible to fly Norwegian from Scandinavia to both cities six days a week.

Eight 787 Dreamliners on order so far
Norwegian will take the delivery of its first 787 Dreamliner in April 2013. The second and third Dreamliner will enter the fleet in June and November respectively. Norwegian will take delivery of an additional four aircraft in 2014 and one in 2015.

Oslo - New York three times a week
During the period May 30 to June 24, Norwegian will fly from Oslo Airport Gardermoen (OSL) to New York (JFK) twice a week, on Thursdays and Sundays. From June 25, the number of weekly flights increases to three; on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. Departure from OSL is 17:30, arriving JFK at 19:30 local time. Departure from JFK is at 21:00, arriving OSL at 10:20 the next day.

Oslo - Bangkok three times a week
Starting June 23, Norwegian will fly twice a week, on Wednesdays and Saturdays, between Oslo Airport Gardermoen (OSL) and Bangkok (BKK). Departure from Oslo is at 09:00 on Wednesdays, arriving BKK at 00:30 local time the next day. On Saturdays departure is at 14:30, arriving BKK at 06:00 local time the following day. From June 25 the number of weekly flights increases to three; on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays. Departure time is 14:30 from OSL, arriving BKK at 06.00 the following day.

Stockholm - New York three times a week
From May 31 to June 25, Norwegian will fly twice a week, on Mondays and Fridays, between Stockholm Arlanda (ARN) and New York (JFK). Departure from ARN is at 17:05 with arrival JKF at 19:30 local time. Departure from JFK is at 21:00 with arrival ARN at 10:45 the next day. From June 26, the number of weekly flights increases to three; on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

Stockholm - Bangkok three times a week
From June 20, Norwegian will fly three times a week; on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays, between Stockholm Arlanda (ARN) and Bangkok (BKK). Departure from ARN is at 14:50, arriving BKK at 06:00 local time the next day. The return flight will depart BKK at 07:30, arriving ARN at 13:45.

[Edited 2012-11-08 03:24:20]

[Edited 2012-11-08 04:02:32]
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:28 am

Fantastic!

I was at Norwegian.com searching for other trips when the website all of a sudden couldn't load, everything went stop. Then I heard of the news which explains it all!

So, to summarize, all four routes will be flown thrice weekly. Seems like a good start!
Let us now hope for a success with more frequencies and more routes! 
Good luck DY!

Interesting to notice that the schedule is made to allow for one aircraft to operate one return flight a day. The JFK trip being shorter than BKK makes it possible to use only one, compared to a scenario where they only operate BKK which would require two aircraft a day.


/Alex

[Edited 2012-11-08 03:36:56]

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RE: Norwegian Opens OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:36 am

No wonder with fares as low as 1829nok OSL-JFK-OSL  
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:51 am

Misleading thread title.

(Opens) usually means that it has started.
(Plans) Would have been more appropriate.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:53 pm

Schedule:

Oslo – Bangkok eff 01JUN13
DY7201 OSL0900 – 0030+1BKK 787 3*
DY7201 OSL1430 – 0600+1BKK 787 136

DY7202 BKK0200 – 0845OSL 787 4*
DY7202 BKK0730 – 1415OSL 787 247

DY7201/7202 from 24JUN13 operates Day 136 (Day 247 from BKK)
*Day 3 service with this schedule operates from 01JUN13 to 23JUN13

Oslo – New York JFK eff 30MAY13
DY7001 OSL1730 – 1930JFK 787 47
DY7002 JFK2100 – 1020+1OSL 787 15

DY7001/7002 from 25JUN13 operates Day 247

Stockholm – Bangkok eff 20JUN13
DY7205 ARN1450 – 0600+1BKK 787 246
DY7206 BKK0730 – 1345ARN 787 357

Stockholm – New York JFK eff 31MAY13 (Day 3 from 26JUN13)
DY7005 ARN1705 – 1930JFK 787 15
DY7006 JFK2100 – 1045+1ARN 787 47

DY7005/7006 from 25JUN13 operates Day 135

Interesting times ahead!

Apparently, their new IATA-code DU hasn't been loaded into the system.

I think the JFK-schedule from both ARN and OSL looks ok. I have always preferred myself the SK flight departure times to ORD in the late afternoon rather than the noon departure times to both IAD and EWR. Good thing is that the 2/3 weekly out of ARN and OSL complement each other. Notice how the planes are routed OSL-JFK-ARN. Just like SK are doing.

Personally, I don't find the BKK departure times very attractive. I would always prefer an evening flight out Europe and a midnight flight out of BKK going back to Europe. Only the temporary Thursday return flight gives you that option.
Future flights: CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL-LAX
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:21 pm

I can say that DY wont have any trouble what so ever to fill the planes to a maximum from ARN..... SAS will feel the pain and also finnair......
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:40 pm

Quoting SAS A340 (Reply 5):
SAS will feel the pain and also finnair......

Great to see DY starting long hauls, hopefully the connections from HEL improve in the future, don't look very attractive now. Anyway more competition is always welcome.

Finnair sure listen carefully the news from Oslo, but I don't believe they are that worried yet. If DY expands to Japan or China, then it's a different story. I was wondering if AY still own a small slice of DY?
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:47 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 4):
Notice how the planes are routed OSL-JFK-ARN. Just like SK are dong.

That's only the case for the first 3 weeks of operations, when they only have one 787 available.

Once their second 787 arrives in June, the 2 planes are divided between ARN and OSL.

One aircraft will fly OSL-BKK-OSL-JFK-OSL, the other ARN-BKK-ARN-JFK-ARN. Once weekly, the planes will meet each other at BKK (on Sunday morning) where they can be swapped (for example, for maintenance).
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Great news

Still, it's gonna be 2 - 3 years before they're up to 8 B787 ... A long time ... Hope they will order more longhaul aircraft.

I like the idea of Rio de Janeiro ...
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:23 pm

And the announcement seems to have been well received!

http://www.thelocal.se/44320/20121108/

I wonder if this will cause SAS to further delay its quarterly financial report (press report from this [Thursday] morning, pre the Norwegian announcement)?

http://www.thelocal.se/44306/20121108/
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:32 pm

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 1):

Fantastic!
I was at Norwegian.com searching for other trips when the website all of a sudden couldn't load, everything went stop.

And it's still off-line...  Wow!
Quoting CityAirline (Reply 1):
Interesting to notice that the schedule is made to allow for one aircraft to operate one return flight a day. The JFK trip being shorter than BKK makes it possible to use only one, compared to a scenario where they only operate BKK which would require two aircraft a day.


Yes, it's a nice and tight schedule, especially with 2 only aircraft. It's not an uncommon practice. KLM (with a much larger fleet, though) quite often deploys their 747s on AMS-NRT-AMS-JFK-NRT-AMS routings, with similar flight times.

The geographical location of ARN and OSL, the relatively high cruise speed of the 787 (M0.85, A330: M0.82, B777 M0.84), and the anticipated reliability probably make DY think it's possible.

In the first 3 weeks of operation, when they only have one aircraft, they have scheduled 5 round trips per week, so 2 maintenance slots per week to fix teething problems.

In the two-aircraft schedule, both aircraft have one spare / delay / maintenance day scheduled per week.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:48 pm

They just said on the news that there is/was up to 100 bookings pr second today!
No wonder why it's down 

[Edited 2012-11-08 08:48:37]
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:54 pm

Any thoughts on them adding ORD?
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:16 pm

Will definitely try them out to JFK      
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:33 pm

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 8):
Great news

Still, it's gonna be 2 - 3 years before they're up to 8 B787 ... A long time ... Hope they will order more longhaul aircraft.

The plan is to receive three aircraft in 2013, with the third arriving in November, four in 2014 and one in 2015

Quoting p201055r (Reply 9):
I wonder if this will cause SAS to further delay its quarterly financial report (press report from this [Thursday] morning, pre the Norwegian announcement)?

No, this has nothing to do with this. SAS has their own internal issues regardless of this
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:34 pm

I guess they need to add some extra flights soon if they have 100 bookings per second!!!
... but who does'nt want to go to NY for NOK999 one way  
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:54 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 14):
The plan is to receive three aircraft in 2013, with the third arriving in November, four in 2014 and one in 2015

As I said 2 - 3 years ..  
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:17 pm

How is the seatcomfort, how many seats do they throw into each row, 8 or 9? and how is the legroom?
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:19 pm

3-3-3 and 31". Apparently limited recline, but the type of seat where the cusion slides forward
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:19 pm

Great news.

It's also expected MIA-OSL/ARN will be announced next. Norwegian has essentially all but confirmed this to MIA officials.

But I wonder where else they will go. Are they trying to be a O&D carrier focusing on holiday destinations? Because Scandanavians are notoriously picky with their holiday destinations: Thailand, Florida, New York. Are they trying to be a network carrier? Will they attempt to build-up demand in potential holiday markets like Beijing and Rio de Janeiro? Interesting to see how this concept plays out. Best of luck to them.
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:55 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 19):
But I wonder where else they will go. Are they trying to be a O&D carrier focusing on holiday destinations? Because Scandanavians are notoriously picky with their holiday destinations: Thailand, Florida, New York. Are they trying to be a network carrier? Will they attempt to build-up demand in potential holiday markets like Beijing and Rio de Janeiro? Interesting to see how this concept plays out. Best of luck to them.

As mentioned:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Thread starter):
According to the rumors, candidates are

OSL/ARN- Rio de Janeiro
OSL/ARN- Kuala Lumpur
OSL/ARN- Miami
OSL/ARN- Seoul


From what I understand, Norwegians aircrafts will be the one with one of the highest numbers of seats. I beleave the number is 291. How much that will be pr. row I don't know ...

[Edited 2012-11-08 10:58:43]
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:59 pm

What's the chance of seeing GOT-JFK thirce or four weekly once the other routes are well established and all aircraft are delivered. The route was first announced by DL in 2008, shortly after which the crisis hit and it was canceled. Also BKK would be viable on the maximum frecuency of thrice weekly.
It has frequently been stated that there is a big demand for New York and Bangkok from Gothenburg no question about it, but what does the possibility of DY launching it look like?
With one aircraft deployed at GOT they could do JFK on days 1357 and BKK on days 246.

Comparison: Sure, Oslo is a capital city, has alot of connections and a bigger average income, but do remember that the metro area of Gothenburg is almost as big as the one of Oslo by population.

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 1):
I was at Norwegian.com searching for other trips when the website all of a sudden couldn't load, everything went stop.

Eight hours later and it's still down, amazing!

/Alex
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:09 pm

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 21):
What's the chance of seeing GOT-JFK

I think perhaps Norwegian will start longhaul from CPH before that. But who knows. Plan is apparently also to do longhaul from other european cities, like Paris and Berlin.

With all the long haul pans Norwegian have, I am a little surprised that they have'nt put in an order for adittional longhaul aircraft yet. The B787 is apparently difficult to get in line for for early delivery, so maybe Norwegian also should be looking at other alternatives aircraft, such as the A350 ?

[Edited 2012-11-08 12:11:32]
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:10 pm

What do you think the chances are to see a ARN-NRT/HND route with DY?
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting robbie86 (Reply 23):
What do you think the chances are to see a ARN-NRT/HND route with DY?

I think right now we should wait for the aircraft to be delivered and see how New York and Bangkok works out  
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:29 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 18):
3-3-3 and 31". Apparently limited recline, but the type of seat where the cusion slides forward

Ouch, that is narrow for a 10 hour flight.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:31 pm

Quoting copenhagenboy (Reply 25):
Ouch, that is narrow for a 10 hour flight.

The Norwegian Tourist class seats have the same configuration as United have in their B787 Tourist Class. Talking about seat width; 3+3+3 in B787 is better spaced than a 3+4+3 in B777. Now you can start your search of which airlines that use the 3+4+3 configuration for B777 (tip: Air France is the first airline if you look through them alphabetically).
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:55 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 4):
Oslo – New York JFK eff 30MAY13
DY7001 OSL1730 – 1930JFK 787 47
DY7002 JFK2100 – 1020+1OSL 787 15
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 4):
Stockholm – New York JFK eff 31MAY13 (Day 3 from 26JUN13)
DY7005 ARN1705 – 1930JFK 787 15
DY7006 JFK2100 – 1045+1ARN 787 47

YAY!!! I get to see a 787 come in!!   
I am going to re-time my dinner break so I can look out the window and watch it come in at 1930 here at JFK! SO EXCITED!
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:53 pm

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 26):
The Norwegian Tourist class seats have the same configuration as United have in their B787 Tourist Class. Talking about seat width; 3+3+3 in B787 is better spaced than a 3+4+3 in B777. Now you can start your search of which airlines that use the 3+4+3 configuration for B777 (tip: Air France is the first airline if you look through them alphabetically).

I know that other airlines do the same, but I still think it is narrow, especially if the legroom is only 31".
I am still so happy, that I can vote against this airlines with my feet and money.



[Edited 2012-11-08 15:59:53]
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:05 am

Is it going to be possible to buy tickets from BKK to JFK? In one ticket. It's a three or four hours waiting in OSl or ARN not so bad!
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:34 am

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 29):
Is it going to be possible to buy tickets from BKK to JFK? In one ticket. It's a three or four hours waiting in OSl or ARN not so bad!

Looks like it does, one way ticket BKK-JFK from NOK 3,400 or more.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:05 am

Quoting g2scandinavia (Thread starter):
OSL/ARN- Seoul

No way!

That almost sounds too good to be true. I would have thought Tokyo, Beijing and Phuket would be considered before Seoul--a city normally overlooked when it comes to receiving new airline service, especially from Europe.

Would be amazing if it really happens, though.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:58 am

Why does it seem the Danes have such a problem with Norwegian?
Especially them going long haul?
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:42 am

The reason for Seoul is that Innovation Norway have been working on a Korea project for several years.
The project aims to get a direct service from Seoul to OSL, serving primarily Korean tourists to Norway.
Similar projects have previously been launched and is the reason why we See direct services from Japan to Norway adapted almost exclusively to the Japanese market.
With the money and support involved, it would not surprise me if DY is the airline to fill that potential.

A direct service to Seoul was for the first time ever lifted as a political topic on a state visit to Norway, when the Korean president and his delegation visited Oslo for a whole week this autum.

That's the reason why I think Seoul will be to find on the map.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:39 am

Quoting robbie86 (Reply 23):
What do you think the chances are to see a ARN-NRT/HND route with DY?

It is probably high on Norwegians priority list
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:45 am

Why do I get the impression that Norwegian is going to do to SAS what Emirates did to Gulfair?
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:23 am

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 32):
Why does it seem the Danes have such a problem with Norwegian?
Especially them going long haul?

I don't think I have problems with Norwegian, other than when I have tried to book with them, I have almost never found cheap tickets.
2 years ago I had to go to Kos, and found out that Norwegian flew direct CPH-Kos. Fine I thought. Do you know what they wanted to charge me? Almost 9000 DKK for a return, including a terrible departure time from Kos in the middle of the night.
The 9000 DKK was no mistake, I tried to book it for two weeks.

Now to longhaul, congrats to the people from Oslo and Stockholm, with the competition and more direct flights.
Now I am living in the Copenhagen area, and I dont always have to fly direct, so I tried to make a booking via Norwegians lowprice calender in july 2013.
Here is what came up with the cheapest ticket:
9 juli: CPH-ARN-BKK: 2024 DKK+548 DKK for luggage, seatreservation and food.
17 juli: BKK-ARN-BKK 3039 DKK+548 DKK.
Total: 6159 DKK.
Take into account that I have to wait 4:50 hours on the outbound flight in ARN and 3:30 hours on the inbound, that can of course change, I don't find the ticket that special cheap or LCC.

I can also choose to fly with Austrian Airlines on 8 juli and return 16 juli:
5475 DKK, all included with a transit time in Vienna of 0:30 minutes on the outbound and 1:45 hours on the inbound.

What would you choose?

PS I will be the first to admit, that the price can change and be different in other dates and periodes, this is just one small reality check.

[Edited 2012-11-09 00:46:43]
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:29 am

Quoting copenhagenboy (Reply 36):
I don't think I have problems with Norwegian, other than when I have tried to book with them, I have almost never found cheap tickets.

I don't have a problem either with Norwegian. In fact, I welcome another possibility for decent one-way wares. With many of the legacy carriers, you usually have to book a return flight in economy in order to get a low fare.

But having said that, I think we should take these prices with a grain of salt. At a day of announcement it is obvious that these prices are being offered at a 'promo' price. I'm wondering what the average normal price will be. Promo prices can be found with all airlines. Earlier this year I was in BKK with Swiss for 3500 kr. The year before with Lufthansa in Singapore for 3600 kr. These fares can be found at times with low demand and well below what you'd normally pay. But what would you normally pay? I that regard I doubt DU will be a lot cheaper.

In quite a few instances where flying with Norwegian could have been relevant, I have found them not to be cheaper than other offerings and with less attractive schedule. I like arriving back in CPH late in the evening - not early Sunday morning.

I think however, Norwegian have succeeded with a very efficient marketing strategy making people believe you are getting value for money. SAS has to work a bit on that  

Just searched for fares to BKK in June. DU wasn't flying on the dates I wanted to go, so had to adjust a bit (Doing one search is probably not representative of the general price level, but this is the first I found).
Outbound June 1 - Return June 13

Norwegian: CPH-OSL-BKK-OSL-BKK = 5.311 DKR + 1.096 DKR (Plus-bundle) = 6.407 DKR
Finnair: CPH-HEL-BKK-HEL-CPH: 3.963 DKR
Turkish: CPH-IST-BKK-IST-CPH : 4.148 DKR
Emirates: CPH-DXB-BKK-DXB-CPH: 4.597 DKR

This doesn't surprise me at all. I think in general DU won't capture much of the Danish market to Asia as there is a lot of competition from not least the Middle Eastern Carriers.

I think they can have more success on the JFK-route if capacity is adjusted accordingly and with less competition from cost efficient carriers.

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Future flights: CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL-LAX
 
sweair
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:37 am

To find good deals, never fly during high season, prices double or triple when schools have holidays. I don't like when its too crowded anyway. And why leave Scandinavia during the good time in the summer, its now in November its the worst to live here and the monsoon in SE Asia is over.

I never have vacations in the summer, I go when others don't go, hotels and every thing is 50%   And I don't have to feel like in a sardine can.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:50 am

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 31):

That is exactly what I was thinking! To have a non-stop OSL-ICN would be incredible if it happened. It makes me think about the ad campaign that the Norwegian Tourism has at Jongno 3-ga, or maybe another, subway station in Seoul...where walls are plastered with gorgeous images of Norway!
 
copenhagenboy
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:04 am

Quoting sweair (Reply 38):
To find good deals, never fly during high season, prices double or triple when schools have holidays. I don't like when its too crowded anyway. And why leave Scandinavia during the good time in the summer, its now in November its the worst to live here and the monsoon in SE Asia is over.

I never have vacations in the summer, I go when others don't go, hotels and every thing is 50% And I don't have to feel like in a sardine can.

Yes that is correct, but I and EBGflyer are just comparing fares on certains days from CPH with a stopover, being it low or high season.

At least next summer from CPH, DY can not compete on the fares, if you are willing to make a stopover.

BTW not all people are going to SE Asia for vacation, even in the summer.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:19 am

Will all those flights be with thaï cabin crew ?
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:34 pm

Norwegian are opening a service from OSL and ARN to JFK/BKK. They said clearly on the press conference that these two services where exclusively launched to primarily serve the O&D markets.

Discussing the lack of low fares and bad connections from Copenhagen does really not fit into what they presented yesterday!

Norwegian's first Dreamliner will arrive OSL on the 22,23 or 24th of April 2013. It will be used for intra European flights for 4 weeks untill its ready for its first revenue service to JFK.


Some other interesting facts:

All pilots for their first 2 Dreamliners have signed their contracts with Norwegian.

Norwegian knew they would receive a lot of applications for the crew positions and listed several requirements such as a bachelor degree. Even with this requirements, Norwegian received over 1.800 applications in their first round of hiring.

23 pilots and 70 cabin crews are hired pr Dreamliner

42 cm pitch in Premium economy (32 seats)

Norwegian are in discussion to acquire more Dreamliners with deliveries starting from 2015.
 
sweair
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:09 pm

Will they take new ones or some from the terrible teens? Good deals could be made for the terrible teens? But maybe they are spoken for already? And these early ones in storage take more than 6 month of rework, not very fast deliveries.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:35 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Thread starter):
OSL/ARN- Rio de Janeiro
OSL/ARN- Kuala Lumpur
OSL/ARN- Miami
OSL/ARN- Seoul

MIA for sure. I also think HKT is a good canditate but I guess we'll see some time in February when their 3rd machine is confirmed for delivery next fall..
 
copenhagenboy
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:48 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 42):
Discussing the lack of low fares and bad connections from Copenhagen does really not fit into what they presented yesterday!

Well okay, but sad for all the people living in the south of Sweden.
Why do they not want to attract these customers?

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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:16 pm

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 32):

Why does it seem the Danes have such a problem with Norwegian?
Especially them going long haul?

No problem with DY at all. I welcome more competition. Best for the customers.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:46 pm

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 8):
I like the idea of Rio de Janeiro ...

You and the large number of norwegian companies with business there in the energy sector.  
Please insert a "smart" joke here.
 
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:54 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 42):
It will be used for intra European flights for 4 weeks

Any chance you know what routes those may be?

Crossing my fingers for ORY...
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RE: Norwegian Starting OSL-BKK/JFK And ARN-BKK/JFK

Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:58 pm

Looks like they are hiring contract pilots to be based in BKK. I would have assumed they base in Europe, but I guess if BKK goes to both ARN and OSL that might make things easier?
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