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AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:36 pm

Here's the llink to this press release (at about 10:30 this morning):
http://splash.alaskasworld.com/Newsr...s/ASstories/AS_20121108_102646.asp

The first official flight of the newest a/c in AS's fleet flew between SEA and SAN today.

The announcement says the plane will be
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Configured with 165 seats in the main cabin and 16 seats in first class, Alaska's new 737-900ERs will fly transcontinental routes between the west and east coasts and to the Hawaiian Islands.

And

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Alaska is scheduled to add three more 737-900ERs to its fleet by the end of 2012 and nine more -900ERs in 2013.

There will be (as of now) a total of 38 of the aircraft delivered through 2017.

More exciting news from AAG!

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:54 pm

Anyone now when it's coming to DEN?
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:00 pm

Can anyone at AS find out the flight numbers that were flown with the -ER today? I tried looking (inc FlightAware) but had no luck finding anything helpful. Thanx in advance.

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:17 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 2):
Can anyone at AS find out the flight numbers that were flown with the -ER today?

498 SEA-SAN and 493 SAN-SEA. That's it for today. Friday and Saturday, PHX gets her as:

634 SEA-PHX
637 PHX-SEA
642 SEA-PHX
635 PHX-SEA
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:42 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 3):
498 SEA-SAN and 493 SAN-SEA. That's it for today.

Ahhhh, thank you muchly EA'.

I know this has been asked/discussed before but is there a way to look at any sort of AS.com schedule to determine whether a flight will be op'd as a 739 or an -ER? Or do we have to just keep asking (read: bothering) nice people like you?

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:15 pm

Anyone know when MCO or MIA will get her???

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:31 pm

Do they have a 400 series reg number? I ask because towing a plane the other day I saw a -900 at AS hangar (SEA) with a 400 series reg and noted to myself that that's new.
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:46 pm

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 6):
Do they have a 400 series reg number? I ask because towing a plane the other day I saw a -900 at AS hangar (SEA) with a 400 series reg and noted to myself that that's new.

Yes, the first one is N402AS
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:17 am

Thank you for the confirmation!
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:05 am

Do they still fly Classic 737s? I believe that they have 400s converted to freighter config.

It looks like the fleet will soon be, if not already, all NG737. I know the MD-80s are gone.
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:37 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 9):

Yes they do still fly the classics in pax configuartion. They still have 24 -400s in service, with three set to be retired in 2013. They also have 5 -400s in the combi configuration and 1 -400 converted to a freighter.

In total, they have 30 737-400s in service.
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:57 am

There's another -900ER sitting at Boeing Field being readied for delivery to AS.
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:28 am

Hello,

I'll be excited to try the new F, not that it seems they did anything crazy, but hopefully it's just really comfy. How much recline does the current f seats have? (these have 5" in recline)

I have to say I've tried the recaro seats on LH euro J and they were Very uncomfortable ... But in alaskas defense:
“Furthermore, Alaska Airlines ordered the BL3520 including the Recaro modular comfort kit – with additional features such as comfort cushions, comfort dress covers as well as six-way adjustable headrests – thus, it is setting a standard for comfort in the US market,”
SO hopefully were looking at seats that are actually comfortable to sit in.
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:43 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 11):

There's another -900ER sitting at Boeing Field being readied for delivery to AS.


I assume the reg will be N403AS?
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:53 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 2):
Can anyone at AS find out the flight numbers that were flown with the -ER today? I tried looking (inc FlightAware) but had no luck finding anything helpful. Thanx in advance.

It's interesting you asked about flight numbers. We will be flying Alaska flt. 807 Bellingham to Maui in January. We will be flying F class thanks to a bit of extra cash and lots of award miles! FlightAware shows 807 to Maui to be a 738. I wonder if they will up grade it to be a brand new 739? Does anybody know if that is a possibility? Up until today flt. 807 was SEA -SAN. It's interesting how they reallocate flight numbers.

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:41 pm

Quoting B737900 (Reply 14):
Up until today flt. 807 was SEA -SAN. It's interesting how they reallocate flight numbers

Ummmm, 800-series flight numbers are pretty much always assigned to Hawaii routes. Flt 807 was never SEA-SAN; in fact, flight status for yesterday, 11/8, shows no such number existed. (But if it had existed previously, it would have been some flight to the Islands.)

But you are right about how AS reassigns flight numbers constantly. I notice it particularly in the Hawaii markets as well as Mexico. But then AS is always adjusting times and with most of those time shifts, they commonly reassign flight numbers. (And that's fine with me as it helps alert pax that there have been changes to their schedule..)

As far as what type of a/c your flight in January will end up being, I would say to keep an eye on the schedules,keep checking the seat map, and hope you see it start to show row 33DEF! Then you know it's going to be the -900ER!

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:47 pm

Quoting B737900 (Reply 14):
I wonder if they will up grade it to be a brand new 739? Does anybody know if that is a possibility?

Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

Quoting B737900 (Reply 14):
Up until today flt. 807 was SEA -SAN.

Not recently. I do PDX/SEA-SAN fairly frequently and have never seen an 8XX series flight on those routes. Just 4XX on SEA-SAN and 5XX PDX-SAN.
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:53 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 15):
Ummmm, 800-series flight numbers are pretty much always assigned to Hawaii routes. Flt 807 was never SEA-SAN; in fact, flight status for yesterday, 11/8, shows no such number existed. (But if it had existed previously, it would have been some flight to the Islands.)


Interesting! Couple weeks ago I went to FlightAware and pulled up our Maui flight 807 (departing 27Jan13) and it absolutely showed it being SEA-SAN. I did that a few times and it always showed 807 going SEA-SAN. Even showed it to my wife. I believe 807 began service yesterday to Maui. If one looks at FlightAware enough you can find a lot of errors so maybe that was the case. I'll do some FlightAware research and see if I can figure it out.

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:25 pm

Quoting B737900 (Reply 17):
Interesting! Couple weeks ago I went to FlightAware and pulled up our Maui flight 807 (departing 27Jan13) and it absolutely showed it being SEA-SAN. I did that a few times and it always showed 807 going SEA-SAN. Even showed it to my wife. I believe 807 began service yesterday to Maui. If one looks at FlightAware enough you can find a lot of errors so maybe that was the case. I'll do some FlightAware research and see if I can figure it out

I would have to say that it was an error by FlightAware (as you say, not uncommon.) But do keep us posted on what you find out.

You are right that yesterday was the first operation of flight 807 between BLI and OGG. And perhaps one of our Alaska friends/experts (employee) can verify that the 8XX flight nunber series is reserved for Hawaii flights only.

In any case, I'm envious that no matter what AS aircraft you're on in January, or what the flight number is, you're going to Maui! Enjoy!   

Quoting chrisair (Reply 16):
I do PDX/SEA-SAN fairly frequently and have never seen an 8XX series flight on those routes. Just 4XX on SEA-SAN and 5XX PDX-SAN

   Except for the occasional 2XX flight numberes that continue on south of the border! Ole!

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:48 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
I know this has been asked/discussed before but is there a way to look at any sort of AS.com schedule to determine whether a flight will be op'd as a 739 or an -ER? Or do we have to just keep asking (read: bothering) nice people like you?

Look at the seat map in the flight information. The 900ER is the only aircraft in the Alaska fleet with a row 14.
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:51 pm

Thanks for all your information. Just a side note: I lived in Alaska for 30 years and have been a great fan of Alaska Airlines and their B727's and B737's. Speaking of flight numbers. ASA 62 (southbound from ANC - SEA) with all the stops in southeast Alaska and ASA 63 are iconic routs and I would recommend them for the avid ASA supporter. I have flown both and I could write a book about those routs (especially the winter schedule!!). Regards
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:34 pm

Interesting that the number of 737-900ERs has now quietly increased to 38 from 35 just a month ago. Did AS order 3 more or (more likely) did they convert the remaining 3 737-800s on order to -900ERs?
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:04 pm

Quoting yeelep (Reply 19):
Look at the seat map in the flight information. The 900ER is the only aircraft in the Alaska fleet with a row 14.

Yes, thanks. Looking at the seat map is the way I've been doing it but it is a bit cumbersome; I was hoping that at some point AS would indicate the specific a/c more visibly. (For us airplane geeks for now anyway. Eventually when "normal" people learn of the better pax experience found on the -ER -- especially that mood lighting! -- then everyone's going to want to know which flights will be flown by the new Queen of the fleet!) Of course for a while at least maybe they will not really differentiate between the 739 and the 739ER. It looks like they still only list the "739" as an a/c type with no further breakdown.

(And btw, yeelep, I actually look, with a quick glance, for row 33DEF as that is also only present on the ER.)

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:38 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 18):
And perhaps one of our Alaska friends/experts (employee) can verify that the 8XX flight nunber series is reserved for Hawaii flights only.

AS 824 operates OGG-SMF-SEA. AS 845 operates the outbound SEA-SMF-OGG leg.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 22):
Of course for a while at least maybe they will not really differentiate between the 739 and the 739ER.

The -900ER doesn't have the mid-cabin lav or closet. The original -900s have one or the other--that's another way you can tell on the seat maps. Btw the mid-cabin lav is great on those planes. I can actually stand up in it, unlike the forward one where I feel like Quasimodo.
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:31 am

FWIW, the SEA-PHX rotation continues through the 13th, at which point ship 402 is scheduled as follows:

AS 678 SEA-DEN
AS 683 DEN-SEA
AS 606 SEA-LAS
AS 613 LAS-SEA


Starting the 14th, ship 403 enters service. Here are the lines for those aircraft on the 14th:

Ship 402:

AS 604 SEA-LAS
AS 617 LAS-SEA
AS 660 SEA-DFW
AS 667 DFW-SEA


Ship 403:

AS 454 SEA-LAX
AS 457 LAX-SEA
AS 650 SEA-PHX
AS 647 PHX-PDX
AS 624 PDX-LAS
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:30 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 24):
FWIW, the SEA-PHX rotation continues through the 13th, at which point ship 402 is scheduled as follows:

AS 678 SEA-DEN
AS 683 DEN-SEA
AS 606 SEA-LAS
AS 613 LAS-SEA


Starting the 14th, ship 403 enters service. Here are the lines for those aircraft on the 14th:

Ship 402:

AS 604 SEA-LAS
AS 617 LAS-SEA
AS 660 SEA-DFW
AS 667 DFW-SEA


Ship 403:

AS 454 SEA-LAX
AS 457 LAX-SEA
AS 650 SEA-PHX)
AS 647 PHX-PDX
AS 624 PDX-LAS

Are these relatively short trips due to training and getting the crews familar with the a/c? Some of these routes definitely see the standard 900 on a regular basis (SEA-LAS).

Which mid/transcon flight have the highest load factors, yield? SEA-ORD/BOS/EWR? Which longer route will see the 739ER first? Thoughts? SEA-EWR, SEA-ORD? SEA-MCO?

Does anyone have any knew photos of the new Queen of the AS fleet?
 
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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:41 am

Quoting laca773 (Reply 25):
Which mid/transcon flight have the highest load factors, yield? SEA-ORD/BOS/EWR? Which longer route will see the 739ER first? Thoughts? SEA-EWR, SEA-ORD? SEA-MCO?

These same questions should probably also be asked about AS's Hawaii flights... I'm sure different routes to the Islands have different LFs which will determine which of them will likely see The Queen on a regular basis.

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:34 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 25):
Are these relatively short trips due to training and getting the crews familar with the a/c? Some of these routes definitely see the standard 900 on a regular basis (SEA-LAS).


Perhaps those 9 additional seats make a difference on the LAS and PHX routes?

Quoting laca773 (Reply 25):
SEA-EWR, SEA-ORD? SEA-MCO?



I would love to see additional frequencies on all three, with EWR being the top choice!

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RE: AS Operates First 739ER Flight Nov 8

Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:51 am

Quoting 737-990 (Reply 21):

Interesting that the number of 737-900ERs has now quietly increased to 38 from 35 just a month ago. Did AS order 3 more or (more likely) did they convert the remaining 3 737-800s on order to -900ERs?

I believe they have converted 3 -800s to -900ERs
 
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