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G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:43 pm

G4 will be suspending its service from SGF to LAX in mid-January, citing operational issues at LAX. Here's a link to the SGF blog regarding this news:

http://www.flyspringfield.com/blog/

For our perspective in SW Missouri, G4's LAX flights have been successful. Hopefully, G4 can find a way to return that service to SGF in the future.
 
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:42 pm

That's too bad. I did that route once and it was full. But I din't see the pax the type to buy into all the extras G4 is famous for so maybe this is an ideal time to use the 'operational issue' reasoning to axe it.
They appear to be a bit slow on knowing how the gate issue at LAX will affect them. It doesn't seem like they know what to do there.
Hopefully it will be ressurrected in the summer.
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:20 pm

Didn't G4 lose their gate space at LAX? I thought that's why they suspended the majority of other LAX routes. This is probably more of the same. Or they aren't fully able to utilize their fleet out of LAX due to gate space and they decided to transfer the aircraft to another focus city.
 
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:40 pm

G4 took the cheap path and instead of getting its own leasehold home opted to contract out.
It had been using Delta, but DL had some schedule changes which crimped its ability to handle G4 on the side.
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:19 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
G4 took the cheap path and instead of getting its own leasehold home opted to contract out.
It had been using Delta, but DL had some schedule changes which crimped its ability to handle G4 on the side.

It seems gates in general are hard to come by in LAX. WN has been pretty well maxed out for gates as well for quite a long time now in LAX. It's too bad ONT has gotten expensive and isn't as preferred as that would be perfect for G4 - uncongested and plenty of gate space.
 
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:55 pm

I follow this story of the cuts by G4 at LAX with some interest. From my persepective, back a couple of years ago before Allegiant opened their ops at LAX, there were discussions (and even a couple of rumors?) about other cities in SoCal that were being looked at as bases for the carrier. SAN was one of the candidates.

I wonder if SAN might be re-visited now as certainly the next largest market behind the greater LA basin in SoCal? Judging be the lack of much of anything currently offered here by G4 -- BLI service 2 or 3x weekly -- I have my doubts.

I certainly know that SAN is NOT LA but I also find it hard to believe that Allegiant couldn't try a few routes and see what happens... It might make up somewhat for their disappearing act slowly taking place 100 miles to the north!

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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:29 pm

Quoting iowaman (Reply 4):
It seems gates in general are hard to come by in LAX.

G4 can move its ops to T-2 or T-3 today, but would need to sign a leasehold and become a regular tenant, not a month to month vagabond.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 4):
WN has been pretty well maxed out for gates as well for quite a long time now in LAX.

WN has been hemmed in because US is in T-1 also and WN's unwillingness to help fund moves for other carriers.

LAWA on atleast two occasions came up with multi carrier moves that would open up T-1 for WN, but it came down to compensating the airlines being moved and helping pay for new facilities. Someone had to foot the bill...

Quoting iowaman (Reply 4):
It's too bad ONT has gotten expensive and isn't as preferred as that would be perfect for G4 - uncongested and plenty of gate space.

ONT is cheaper then LAX this year. So are places like BUR and LGB. And speaking of LGB, G4 was there first, and even managed to secure additional slots, but packed things up to focus on LAX.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 5):
I certainly know that SAN is NOT LA but I also find it hard to believe that Allegiant couldn't try a few routes and see what happens...

G4's model is to sell a destination. It has Vegas, Orlando, sunny Phoenix, Hawaii now, and Los Angeles.

While SAN is a great destination on its own, I'm not sure it has the broad nationwide appeal as a destination such as LA has. G4 found they even had poor success trying to the region via LGB gateway.
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:58 pm

So that leaves AZA,LAS,SFB,and PIE out of SGF now... Still a pretty good operation I must say
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RE: G4 Will Suspend SGF-LAX Mid-January

Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:07 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
WN has been hemmed in because US is in T-1 also and WN's unwillingness to help fund moves for other carriers.

I thought it was the other way around, where WN wanted US to move out of T1 and offered to pay, but US refused numerous times.
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